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when is someone going to address it if we can keep talking about the size of cornwall and hetmyer we can talk about some of these huge women in the cpl not good look for professional athletes especially hayley matthews and anisa mohammed expanding waistline and thighs inspite of being international cricketers these women need the same strict fitness regime as the men

In reply to velo

you mean Rampaul and Cornwall nursing babies like Afy Fletcher et al ?

In reply to doosra

If we follow velo, the WCPL might end up with just 2 teams instead of 3!

In reply to StumpCam

Or maybe one team.

The TKR women look about as 'rounded' as their Royals counterpart.

Did you take a look at the TKR wicketkeeper?

In reply to Drapsey

isn't she a yadi?

btw she was awesome

In reply to doosra

You seen Polly lately?

Royals and KnightRiders have plenty sumo lookalikes.

Hayley looks trim not Anisa.

Amazon Warriors have fittest looking and placed last. Go figure

XXlarge women with pants sliding off backsides not a good look for pro athletes

In reply to Castled

Rampee siddung in the stand and the man belly bracing the chair infront

the good life eh

In reply to Castled

indeed gaw looked the most 'impoverished'

In reply to doosra

Yuh wicked

Hope women use critiques as incentives to up their fitness regimes

In reply to Castled

let the ladies be what they want

if yall want slim and fit looking players fih jump and dive about the place

pay them equally , what you say?


The trini lady commie was talking about Nero? can't remember, one of her colleagues at work with some security firm

women in the region still have to do their job / work and come home and do work, look after pikney and all of that

where is the time to go to gym, train etc

In reply to doosra

Word!

In reply to doosra

Lee Ann Kirby.

Btw both Natasha and Boycie are heavyweights but very good keepers. Qiana, also a heavyweight but a good allrounder. Anisa was always fat but she seems fit enough. I saw her chase down a ball and slid to stop a boundary.

Meanwhile slimjims like Cooper, Mongru,etc can't mek a run to save their lives

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

correck is right

i think Qiana is an excellent leftie...she has good control and smarts

in fact, the standard of the keeping standing up to the medium pacers was excellent. many of their male counterparts will do well to take those thick edges etc

the outfielding was generally very good, the catching was generally excellent,

if there is one thing it is the need for a new crop of batters to support the likes of Hayley Matthews , Deandra et al...

Respect the high carb diets and fast food. Tough to be slim when our culture promotes rice, flour and fast food.

Even our men's coach seems to be fond of ice cream cones, during games

In reply to Curtis

What wrong with you Bish admit he is a ice cream man like Sims

I do not think it is becoming to ridicule our women cricketers.Instead we should encourage them to continue working towards getting fitter and extolling the value of nutrition and exercise.

In reply to Dukes

One would then ask if it is becoming to ridicule our male cricketers?

In reply to nick2020

the same level of ridicule would mean ignoring the socio-economic challenges, among others that our women cricketers have to deal with

our men are properly paid, contracted etc, cricket is their full time job

what is their excuse ?

is it too much to ask the men to show up for work fit enough and do it properly?

as said before, until such time we start treating our women as full time professionals, pay them a decent salary etc, we ought to support them and be proud of what they offer

i am sure it is not beyond them to know they want to be in better condition etc but they are balancing that with a host of other life things...

In reply to Dukes

Hear, hear…

In reply to doosra
Tenks bro

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Anisa was the only West Indian player to slide for a ball during the whole competition. If another one did, I missed it.

In reply to nick2020

Do you still want me to answer your question, or is Doosra's response adequate?

In reply to doosra

Dey shud be applauded for rising above the ridicule they have to face from time to time. Imagine being asked by some men and other women, why they are on the field and not preparing meals at home for dere mate.

Caribbean culture is still a long way from accepting women in sports other than netball and athletics.

In reply to Dukes & doosra
Well said

One of the best fast-bowlers in international cricket is a big girl - Anya Shrubsole, the recently retired from international cricket, longtime spearhead of the England attack with records for most wickets.

In reply to doosra

Shakera Selman seems to be technically sound in defence, I don't know why she bats so low. Kycia (I think it is) also looks solid in defence but they can't seem to play shots.

In reply to doosra

Isn't output a function of input? Male and female cricketers must learn to discipline their mouths!

In reply to doosra

Does it matter which Island the player is from.
I am tired hearing of insularity BS, when it comes to supporting a team.
No one walk about insularity when I wear my Pittsburg colours, I usually hear Thats unfortunate or Dem Shitty Steelers.
I understand the into Island competition, I am hoping one day 10-12 teams will be competing, with players from other countries contracted, to make our regional competition better.

In reply to Dukes

So being financially rewarded means it is acceptable to be fat shamed? Lovely world we live in.

In reply to openning

gramps, chill...that was a comment for drapsey...if you mix the context you miss the story

In reply to Chrissy

When Devin called Serena fat and manly looking that was okay and you should not have condemned him because she is financially rewarded and tennis is her fully time job?

It is either okay or not not this it depends shyte

In reply to Maispwi

We are from a very patriarchal society.It starts from our mothers basically being our father's servant.Then it is re-inforced by the difference in treatment between daughters and sons in terms of chores, housework and the sisters being "groomed" by our mothers to serve men by serving their brother.

In reply to Dukes

Doc, look at the Muslim society, The catholic church and all other society, and tell me if the region men, not mirror them.

In reply to nick2020
Now that is some BS! the mere fact that the descriptor included both 'Fat n Manly' shows the clear prejudicial if not racist slant of the critique. Was her 'manliness' about her face because if not it is unlikely he saw her as fat yet manly-ergo muscular. Serena actually introduced a level of fitness, power, and agility to womens' tennis never before seen.

In reply to doosra

If I may say, this is a load of crock as it postulates there is some kind of direct and strong correlation between SES and fitness levels. Let's take the extreme - obesity -, see here:



And here:



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Also, the argument seems to suggest that the men reach the regional level from a much better SES than the women. This is patently false, as there is no evidence for it. To be clear, any suggestion that the women in our society be held at a different (lower) standard is what you libs frequently refer to as bigotry of low expectations.

Finally, an individual's economic value is principally based on the marginal revenue product of his labour - i.e. his productivity and the revenue associated with his output. In other words, you seem to be putting the cart before the horse, and by asking the men to subsidise the ladies' bad behaviour and habits you're creating what economists call a moral hazard. Stop it.

In reply to XDFIX

It is as simple as that!



The equation is a simple one: burn more calories than you consume.

In reply to nick2020

So obesity is a virtue? Thinking like this is part of the problem. Stop it.

In reply to Maispwi

What does this mean, exactly? Acceptance? Are women athletes not otherwise accepted, and in fact excel at track and field?

In reply to doosra

Why all this talk about equal pay the ladies game is still in it's early days

In reply to Dukes

As it should be, see how Asians cultures operate. Men are not women, and women are not men. Yin and yang.

In reply to bird

Look to the US, there is a reason why ladies in the NBA are paid substantially less than men, and it has zero to do with negative discrimination. Cricket will be no different. Too many people on here trying to be politically correct at the expense of reality and truth.

In reply to Sangfroid

What about tennis salaries?

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

What about it?

In reply to bird and sangfroid

i said nothing about equal pay

this is actually what i said

In reply to Sangfroid

studies have shown this over and over...that there is correlation between ses and health...Here is one




how you arrived at that i dont know

the argument is that if the women are doing this professionally they would have more time to spend on it

In reply to doosra

...which brings us to the same conclusion: money and better treatment = higher, minimum fitness standards. Respectfully I say, this is a pretty tenuous argument to make.



I don't see how your link supports your position. The relationship you're relying on is low SES = low fitness levels within low income countries (i.e. WI). The study I referenced shows the opposite - in low income countries, higher SES leads to higher obesity.

In reply to doosra

You seem to be excusing the ladies on account of - allegedly- poor professional treatment, no? My counter argument is the men arrive at the regional level in better shape, with no obvious advantage in SES or treatment.

In reply to Sangfroid

again, you are missing the point

where they arrive is a function of the opportunities presented before them - for the men, the opportunities to become professional cricketers from the outset means there is an incentive to give up other things, education included. they can train, let their wags look after home etc. while they attend to their cricket.

In reply to doosra

I don't think so. You're approaching this with inequity lens, without supporting evidence.



I maintain this is an incredible position to take. Again, the equation is simple: burn more calories than you consume. This is essentially a discipline and commitment issue. External factors have close to zero weighting here.

On a related note, today women in the US weigh more than men compared to 50 or so years ago. And to compensate, men are being indoctrinated to believe this is acceptable (hence meaningless phrases like fat shaming), and there is beauty in all sizes (see Lizzo). Of course, fat acceptance is only applicable to women. Fat men are deemed unattractive (rightfully so) and consequently are low down in the pecking order.

In reply to Sangfroid


Sudden soon cum for ass (rass)

In reply to tc1

Meh kno, and ah ready.

In reply to Sangfroid

Lots of FAULTY GENERALIZATIONS- The men who play U19, club, and FC cricket WILL arrive to top-level cricket than women who have none of those structures to the extent the men do (U19 has just begun, their regional is much less cricket). b. Men and women have different biologies yet the women cricketers do not have the framework to better work on their fitness. c. I mentioned during the WC that the WI women were wearing generic kits of clothes made for men. Their kit should've been made differently with more room for wider hips other teams seemed to have provided that.
Sangfroids reference to SES is like the World Bank determining GDP per capita of economies like ours without once considering the chickens running 'roung country people's yard nor the two breadfruit trees roun' a back.

In reply to Brerzerk


12 tips to help you lose weight, according to the NHS:

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Keep it simple, Spock.

In reply to Brerzerk

Please, do expound.

In reply to nick2020

I find it discourteous to refuse to answer questions posed to you while continually asking questions of the very same person whose questions you refused to answer.

I see some peeps complaining about the women's loose dressing and consequent exposure of underwear, but I can't recall anyone complaining about some (actually one) of the men counterparts (casually) exposing (Fabulous) diamond decorated belly buttons during last year's edition of the CPL.

In reply to Sangfroid
You are missing the point, keeping it simple is not simplistic. You have rushed to judgement as to the reason for the extra weight on those women. What scientific evidence do you have to say eating and inactivity is the primary cause? Someone said they have to work full-time jobs, some of those jobs could include activity just not the type nor intensity suited for pro-sport. It seems to me the primary cause is not being able to devote adequate time to their craft. Regarding physical differences Women naturally have less muscle mass and prone to acquire fat tissue more readily than men. News flash they also bear children. Given the incentive that say a Shelly-Ann has I would bet that our cricketers presented with half as that would be fit as 'figgles'

In reply to Dukes

As you have done in the past.

However I saw no question to respond to. Highlight it for me and I will answer and I will hope you reciprocate.

Edit:

Wait I confused. So Doosie is your mouth piece?

I asked you a question he asked me a question and you asking me about a question he asked?

What kinda mad world this is?

In reply to doosra

Refer to below.



Did you ever play a sport in college representing said college? You do not get paid. Up until the historic lawsuit the school could use your likeness and profit. And many of the college athletes have to buss ass in the gym and study hard to maintain grades. You have to run miles every morning in the cold ass weather up and downhills, do sprints after you ran your ass off, go to the gym, and watch what you eat. All for a meagre allowance, free meals, sponsored equipment, and a dorm room (unless you were the highly recruited 5 star athlete).



The college athlete is probably asking the unfit professional the same thing. Being improperly paid or being busy should not preclude any athlete from not being in proper shape. It really is a poor excuse.


No because every athlete should show up fit for work and do it properly. The only way you can execute to the best of your ability is to be in the best shape you can be.


Agreed. And in that support you need to raise all matters including fitness.


Answered above.

In reply to nick2020

Well played.

In reply to Brerzerk

Here is the challenge: Point me to the conclusion referred to in the first highlighted material.

Second, you seem to confuse cause and effect with remedy. I listed the NHS's advice on losing weight. Seems simple to me.

Third, it literally takes about one hour of training in the morning before work and a disciplined diet to achieve the desirable outcome. Also, I'm not sure diet and physical training can be categorised as part of their craft.

Fourth, your benchmark is the wrong one. The relevant comparison would be women from other countries and sports.