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England Women vs India Women. Jhulan Goswami
2022-09-24 16:36:02
2022-09-24 16:36:39
But look at the scenes out there in the middle of Lord's. The first to hug Goswami is Harmanpreet Kaur. The legend is done for India individually. Good length on off, Davies does well to defend it down and back it rolls down the pitch. A standing ovation for Goswami and then everyone around her embrace in a tight hug. Emotional and teary-eyed moment for everyone
2022-09-24 16:51:37
23 needed 9 down
2022-09-24 17:02:19
rule is rule 
What has happened here? Deepti Sharma sees Charlotte Dean out of her crease and knocks the bails off. The crowd boo while the Indians are all smiles. Third umpire called for. And he's given that out. What an end to the game. Controversial but that's how it is. Charlotte Dean is in tears while Ecclestone shakes her head
out Charlotte Dean Run Out!! Charlotte Dean run out (Deepti Sharma) 47(80) [4s-5]
2022-09-24 17:04:15
INDW 169 (45.4)
ENGW 153 (43.4) CRR: 3.5
India Women won by 16 runs
3-zip
2022-09-24 17:04:36
Law is law
Run out is a valid dismissal too 
Whingeing Poms
2022-09-24 17:07:30
In reply to shivnotout
Unsportsmanlike behavior. Not even a warning. It's not like the England players were taking sharp singles. The singles they took could have been achieved with the non-striker starting behind the wicket because the ball was played into so much space.
No Courtney Walsh Award for Deepti Sharma.
2022-09-24 17:09:13
In reply to Halliwell
It's in the Laws of the Game and is a perfectly allowed mode of dismissal. Deepti walks away towards her team-mates who are all giggling around even as the umpires refer to the third umpire. The decision is relayed on the big screen to loud boos from the Home of Cricket crowd. Dean is in tears, Ecclestone and the others on the balcony can't quite believe what they are seeing. But that's the end of the game. Charlotte Dean run out (Deepti Sharma) 47(80) [4s-5]
2022-09-24 17:11:46
In reply to Halliwell
I'm no Pom. This was terrible behavior.
2022-09-24 17:33:58
In reply to Fantom
It is ruthless but it is not illegal. Our 2016 World Cup winning U19 team did it against Zimbabwe. We wouldn't have gone on to win the tournament if it wasn't done. I am not a fan of it but desperation and the desire to win is what makes players do this. Once it is in the rule book, it definitely cannot be considered unfair.
2022-09-24 17:48:57
In reply to Windiesfan78
I have never commented on the WI U19 win because I have never seen it. I watched the Eng-Ind match and my immediate reaction was this is not cricket. But we can agree to disagree.
2022-09-24 18:44:34
In reply to Fantom
Running out of the non-striker: The Playing Conditions follow the Laws in moving this method of effecting a Run out from the ‘Unfair Play’ section to the ‘Run out’ section.
Previously looked down as unfair play, running out a non-striker for backing up too much will now be considered as a regular run-out
Previously looked down as unfair play, running out a non-striker for backing up too much will now be considered as a regular run-out
Read the new rule changes made last week
2022-09-24 19:16:47
In reply to Fantom
I have never commented on the WI U19 win because I have never seen it.
Well take it a look at it then
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2022-09-24 19:48:12
Also Fantom, the player was warned on more than one occasion apparently. If you think about it, why should a batter have an unfair advantage when running between the wickets? I have seen batters starting to run down the pitch before the ball is even delivered.
2022-09-24 20:21:34
Courtney Walsh showed all and sundry how it SHOULD be done.
Law or no law.
It was fucked up when Kemo Paul did it and it’s fucked up today in this instance.
Anyone disagreeing and saying law is law is identical to Trevor Chappel.
2022-09-24 20:36:29
In reply to imusic
Its not fucked up when the batter tries to cheat a run? The law was placed there because of it was unfair for the batters to cheat...and get away with it under the pretense the fielding side would appear unsportsmanlike!!
2022-09-24 20:46:19
In reply to imusic
Nope sorry
Them changed the bouncer laws because the previous situation was ‘unfair’
Then the wicketkeeper ruse and stumping law
England drew a World Cup because Stokes bat away a 4 while running a single
As long as batsmen edge the ball and don’t walk, all out is fair game.
Imagine bowling a man through bat and pad then warning him that he should close the gate
Out is out.
Make the laws and play within them.
2022-09-24 20:47:52
In reply to googley
Too right.
The bowler did not deliver the ball
The batswoman ‘did thought’ the bowler delivered the ball
Silly girl, out your crease is still a run out.
Attempting to Run out the Non-striker
Background
This note gives guidance following a recent incident in the League where a non- striker was run out by the bowler.
The Law
The Laws of cricket deal specifically with this situation under Law 41.16:
“If the non-striker is out of his ground from the moment the ball comes into play to the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the bowler is permitted to attempt to run him out. Whether the attempt is successful or not, the ball shall not count as one of the over. If the bowler fails in an attempt to run out the non-striker the umpire shall call and signal Dead ball as soon as possible.”
Guidance
The key aspect of the law is the expression “the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball”.
This is the point in the delivery action when the bowler would normally release the ball.
For the bowler to attempt to run out the non-striker he must stop his run up before his arm reaches the point when the ball would normally be released. Provided he does this and breaks the wicket with the non-striker out of his crease and there is an appeal then the non-striker is out. Once his arm has passed the vertical in the delivery swing he is not permitted to run out the non-striker and the umpire must call and signal dead ball as soon as possible.
Spirit of Cricket
Neither the bowler, nor any other member of the fielding side, is under any obligation to issue a warning to the batsman if he is leaving the crease early. Nonetheless it is recommended that on the first occasion the captain of the fielding side should be asked by the umpire if he wants the appeal to be withdrawn. If not then the appeal must be answered and the non-striker given out, if applicable.
Position of umpire at Bowler’ End
It is recommended best practice that the umpire at the bowler’s End should stand at least 3 yards back from the wicket whenever possible. This is particularly important if there is an attempt to run out the non-striker because of the need to observe the bowling action and determine whether the attempt has been carried out correctly under the law.
Background
This note gives guidance following a recent incident in the League where a non- striker was run out by the bowler.
The Law
The Laws of cricket deal specifically with this situation under Law 41.16:
“If the non-striker is out of his ground from the moment the ball comes into play to the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the bowler is permitted to attempt to run him out. Whether the attempt is successful or not, the ball shall not count as one of the over. If the bowler fails in an attempt to run out the non-striker the umpire shall call and signal Dead ball as soon as possible.”
Guidance
The key aspect of the law is the expression “the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball”.
This is the point in the delivery action when the bowler would normally release the ball.
For the bowler to attempt to run out the non-striker he must stop his run up before his arm reaches the point when the ball would normally be released. Provided he does this and breaks the wicket with the non-striker out of his crease and there is an appeal then the non-striker is out. Once his arm has passed the vertical in the delivery swing he is not permitted to run out the non-striker and the umpire must call and signal dead ball as soon as possible.
Spirit of Cricket
Neither the bowler, nor any other member of the fielding side, is under any obligation to issue a warning to the batsman if he is leaving the crease early. Nonetheless it is recommended that on the first occasion the captain of the fielding side should be asked by the umpire if he wants the appeal to be withdrawn. If not then the appeal must be answered and the non-striker given out, if applicable.
Position of umpire at Bowler’ End
It is recommended best practice that the umpire at the bowler’s End should stand at least 3 yards back from the wicket whenever possible. This is particularly important if there is an attempt to run out the non-striker because of the need to observe the bowling action and determine whether the attempt has been carried out correctly under the law.
2022-09-24 21:02:44
This will hopefully keep batters in the crease till the ball is delivered. Like it or not, that's how it is. The rules
normally favour batters for example:
In limited overs cricket, when a bowler oversteps the crease, it is a no-ball and the batter gets a free hit for the next ball. The only way he/she can get out is by being stumped or run out.
We may not be fans of certain rules but it is all part of the game. Why do you think batters score more runs in ODIs now than back in the day. It is because of field restrictions and no more than two bouncers an over just to name a few. It was also put in place to provide more run scoring opportunities for batters.
2022-09-24 21:39:27
In reply to shivnotout
Charlotte Dean is in tears while Ecclestone shakes her head
Why is she crying when she got caught cheating and was rightly given out?
2022-09-25 21:26:44
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Don't make the laws of cricket conflict with the spirit of cricket and we won't have a problem
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2022-09-25 21:38:47
In reply to Fantom
Where is the spirit of cricket when batters don't walk when they know they are out?!!!
Batters can't have it both ways....they stand there and say "let the umpire do his job!" well, the umpire did!
2022-09-25 21:40:00
In reply to Kay
Why is she crying when she got caught cheating and was rightly given out?
cause she got caught!! If she was able to get away with it she would have been grinning ear to ear!
2022-09-25 21:50:26
In reply to googley
iTito, and the rest of the self righteous sanctimonious clowns here, want to tell you that a batter should be allowed to walk half way down the pitch before the bowler delivers the ball so they can steal a single and the bowler is obliged to warn them not to cheat.
These fcukers are something else.
2022-09-29 13:41:23
The rule is straightforward. There is no controversy, no 'spirit of cricket' stuff if the non-striker just keeps their bat in the crease until the ball is delivered.
All the talk about changing the rules to a warning system, penalty runs or 'one short' is an unnecessary complication.
You want to take a lead to try and get a quick run, fine. But be aware of the risks. Simple.
2022-09-29 13:58:06
In reply to FantomDid you see how far the English batter was,the match was looking tight so the batsman should have be
aware of anything.I don't like it too but it is a part of the game.
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