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The concept of WI cricket is well past its sell by date….

I will take my licks with the Yardie stand alone team under coach Shiv Chanderpaul

In reply to FanAttick

Agreed, time for allyuh to compete against the Associate cricketing nations.

What a facking humiliation!

In reply to NineMiles

There is no shame in guilt by association

NineMiles said it too,and I can see why,at this time I can see Jamaica,Barbados,Guyana,LI or even WI beating Scotland,Ireland or maybe Zimbabwe,TT may even put up a better fight.Let them be on their own,and start working on that,no more West Indies,it isn't working, people's attitude have changed,no more we are all one,that is a fallacy

DISBAND IT!!!

In reply to granite

How can a national team play for a country that doesn’t exist?


Countries within the region have started to sack the Queen now King as head of state…and rightfully so…time to rid ourselves of colonialism

In reply to FanAttick

When you disband the West Indies you will find that none of the islands exist either.

If Premier leagues around the world reduce and stop hiring Mindies players, the reality will sink in..

In reply to FanAttick

West Indies cricket has already been disbanded on this MB.

In reply to methodic

Tell that to Usain Bolt and Shelly-Ann Fraser Pryce

In reply to FanAttick

When you start comparing individual sports to team sports I say...

A better comparison should be the no contact lil' skilled sport called netball.

In reply to Courtesy

Ok..which was the 1st English speaking Caribbean team to qualify for the FIFA Soccer World Cup?

In reply to FanAttick

that is an individual sport. Jamaica had the best team on paper for world cup qualifications, where did they finish?

Once West Indies cricket disbanded....this forum also disbanded.....

In reply to Onionman0

True

In reply to methodic

60 odd out of 200 countries that attempted qualification


West Indies failed out of 20 odd teams

In reply to Onionman0

This forum has been a Museum..a mausoleum, Taj Mahal of WI cricket..

In reply to Onionman0

Caribbean Cricket will still be alive and kicking…watch when the Regional Super 50s start

In reply to FanAttick

Jamaica failed out of 6.

In reply to Khaga

What do you think of the poster Bolls?

In reply to methodic

Not 6 minnows
Mexico and the US are top 15 in the World

In reply to Courtesy

He is prescient..I think of him very highly..as highly as I think of you..

In reply to Khaga



That was a Bolls-like response except it's not in Hindi.

In reply to Onionman0

ANYWAYS THIS FORUM IS OF NO USE. ITS BETTER IF IT GETS DISBANDED AND DIES SLOWLY WITH THE DEATH OF WASTEUNDIES CRICKET AS IT IS COMING SOONER THAN EXPECTED. WASTEUNDIES ARE JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND LACKS TALENT. THIS FORUM IS ALSO FULL OF BRAINLESS SKUNTS JUST LIKE WASTEUNDIES BATSMAN. THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE GAME NOR HAS THE KNOWLEDGE. THEY SUPPORT THEIR COUNTRY SKUNTS WHO ARE SHITEHOUNDS.

THIS FORUM IS ONLY GOOD FOR HALF BRAIN OLD AGE SKUNTS WHO ARE ABOVE 70 TO DO TIME PASS WITH RUM AND TALK ABOUT NON EXISTENT CAVE AGE GLORIES AND GET A BEATING OF THEIR LIFE IN MY HANDS.

DEDING WID LAF HALF BRAIN IDIOTS.

In reply to FanAttick

minnows is a term created by an elitist. West Indians can't afford to think so. They are bigger countries, larger populations, more resources and know their identities.

West Indies cricket is not what it used to be. If we were the powerhouse that we were back in the day, this conversation wouldn't be happening. When we won the t20 World Cup or when we win a series (rarely albeit), not a boy utters a word about 'going it alone'. This is purely emotive because of the disappointment in not qualifying for the t20 World Cup, a tournament we have won twice.
Like many on this board, I am bitterly disappointed and would like a solution to the rot. Breaking up a team with such a rich history is not the way to go. The collective unit of boys in maroon may have fallen in battle, but one day we will win the war.

In reply to Windiesfan78

THAT DAY WILL NEVER EVER COME AGAIN. NOW TEAMS ARE MORE SMARTER, INTELLIGENT, TACTICAL, TALENTED THAN WASTEUNDIES SHITE HOUNDS.

DEDING WID LAF

In reply to bolls

Bolls might I ask, which team do you support?

In reply to FanAttick

Yes because the Reggae Boyz are doing so well.

In reply to Chrissy

I have full confidence in Coach Heimer Halgrimsson and General Secretary Dennis Chung …the corner has turned

Cricket the region will die, if this happens.
We barely hanging on as it is.

In reply to WIForever

Maverick weighs in

In reply to WIForever

And? It’s already dead! Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands, Afghanistan are in world tournament and we were not able to qualify. We finished last in our group below SCOTLAND. Do you really think we can turn this around any time soon…if ever?

Just because our minnows are out of the t20 World Cup doesn't mean that the team should be disbanded. This post shows me that there are some fickle fans frowning for foolishness. Take note that this team has won every major world title and beaten every test nation over the years. Let me remind people of the following:
2 ODI World Cup titles
2 t20 World Cup titles
1 ICC Champions Trophy
1 t20 W-World Cup title
1 U-19 ODI World Cup title

This was done with less resources than teams with a larger pool of players. Also, the teams that won the last three titles mentioned were not favourites. We know what the problems are in W.I cricket, it is a matter of dealing with them. This is a wake up call and probably needed to happen. Unity is strength, the unique talent across the region is like a rough diamond waited to be polished.

In reply to FanAttick
"The concept of WI cricket is well past its sell by date…."
I made the same statement some years ago and posters were upset with me.
It's not rally round the West Indies anymore, them jokers this would have it...
Wallow! Wallow round the waste indies. 😠💩🤮

In reply to WIForever

its almost already dead. We don't have charismatic players like Gayle, DJ, Dre Rus, Pollard or Sarwan who will inspire little kids and teenagers to pick up the game. We have one or two players who're kind of successful, but they have no charisma. And then the majority of the side has no charisma and they ain't successful either. Hosein, Powell and Mayers are the only dudes who bring energy and verve to the side and are sort of successful. Holder is a senior prefect, pooran's form is woeful, hetmeyer is stuck in the mid teens.

Brandon King though is excellent. Earlier this year i said he is a test batsman in waiting and nothing has since changed my opinion.

In reply to Windiesfan78

problem is the pool is shrinking. not as many ppl play cricket professionally as they were in 2004 or even 06 when we reached the champions trophy final. I don't think as many people play cricket as they did even in 2012. The years of board-player wrangling has dissuaded a lot pf young ppl from cricket. I know guys who were excellent cricketers in TT who decided to take up scholarships in UWI or just access tertiary education on a whole simply because they thought it wasn't worth it.

In reply to Jumpstart
You know your stuff! As your comment clearly states:

“ Brandon King though is excellent. Earlier this year i said he is a test batsman in waiting and nothing has since changed my opinion.“

I agree with you. He has the shots and he values his wicket, although he’s not afraid to risk his wicket. He should play all formats and he is charismatic.

In reply to JamMack

rell beautiful to watch....he's a wristy player.....which is not something you see in the WI anymore....and we used to have quite a bit....sarwan, lara, samuels, hooper, dessie haynes. love watching him bat. If they could convince Pooran to forsake the IPL for one year and get some FC experience under his belt, he'll be back too. That to me is 3/4 of his problems

In reply to Jumpstart

One can obtain a degree in cricket at UWI. The interest has waned but that doesn't mean it isn't there. The problem is that the younger generation isn't as interested in ODI and test cricket as they are in t20 cricket. This is because there is more money to be earned in the shortest format with all the different franchises across the world. As a result, many talented batters are becoming one dimensional. The hurtful thing about it is that for all the interest in this particular format, the team is ranked below associate members.
Does anyone on this message board honestly believe that Trinidad, Jamaica, Barbados, Guyana, Leeward and Windward Islands formimg separate teams on the world stage would be more competitive than our current team? For example, Trinidad & Tobago can't even win the Regional 4 day competition while Barbados can't win a regional t20 tournament. Imagine placing any of these teams against the likes of Pakistan or better yet India or Australia. We would really see what a beat down is.
Disbanding the West Indies would be a massive mistake and would be heart breaking to many a fan, including me. This is simply a knee jerk reaction to failure on the part of our team. I'm having none of it.

Loyalty of certain posters are amazing....they would disband the West Indies cricket rather than call for sacking of Skerritt-Shallow and Simmons....their pay masters....

One solution. West Indies is not a country. That’s a disadvantage when we compete against countries. Simple, loyalty to country is one of easiest thing for somebody to tap into.
Example, Hetty ain’t gonna miss two plane flights if Guyana needs him to represent them on the world stage. Facts is just facts. Just read this message board and you can see this. Each defend their own, no matter how they are performing good or bad.
Jimmy Adams, Ricky Skerritt and others in the seats of power need to change the whole concept and openingly announce West Indies cricket as a business model and make decisions from that point.
Who wants to invest, come in and do so as long as it benefits the business model.Things like we lost out on a large chunk of revenue by not getting to Super 12, yeah come out and announce and say the amount lost and why it happened.
Like those who don’t play at least 50% of the games before major tournaments will not be considered for them. Make it plain, injures or no injuries. Commitment to franchise cricket or not. These are the rules and standards. Part-take in the first class games or your place in the squad may be affected if not.
That my friend is the only way forward that I can see West Indies PC. Don't expect loyalty, demand it.

we will rise again like the phoenix

If Afghanistan can go it alone why can't the countries that make up the West Indies team?

Who has more challenges and setbacks than Afghanistan?

I am tired of Guyana fighting for a couple of places in WI team whilst the majority of our boys dejectedly fall by the wayside.

Disband and go it alone!

In reply to Raggs

You can demand loyalty but you cannot force it on any individual. It will never be heartfelt and will not get the best out of players. Once a better opportunity arises, they are gone with the wind. Players must have the desire to want to play for the West Indies and see it as a privilege to represent the entire region. That is what loyalty is. However, gone are the days when players had few opportunities to play other than for the West Indies. Money is the motivation like it or not and CWI just doesn't have the funds to pay handsomely like the owners of franchises across the world. This is why players often choose to continue playing for their franchises rather than representing the West Indies. The sad thing about it is that we seem to be the only team that does this. By the way, Pollard, Narine and Bravo decided to represent their IPL franchises in the Champion's League years ago rather than Trinidad. Even though the T&T government was willing to pay them more they still stuck with their decisions. At the end of the day, West Indies cricket needs serious investment if our team is to move forward.