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officially side has not been named but it is understood that 6 barbadians have been included in the wi tour according to the nation newspaper from sources presumaly in the bca
roach
brathwaithe
reifer
mayers
brooks
holder

the four members that were in t20 world cup squad will remain in australia to prepare for that tour

In reply to velo

A guaranteed win.

Yesssssssssssss!

In reply to velo

Whatever happened to Justin?

In reply to Drapsey

i'm afraid it won't make a diference who is on this team

In reply to Drapseygreaves?

In reply to velo

Against the Aussies, this is true. Wouldn't it be nice if Big Phil could leave with us winning the final match. What a send off that would be!

In reply to Windiesfan78
Let's hope the rain will continue to fall in Australia in biblical proportions

They int worth what paddy shot at

In reply to Walco

, the rain certainly didn't save our hides in the t20 qualifiers. What makes you think it will be any different in the tests. Rain will not change the result.

In reply to velo

5 bajans???

So we know who here will be heading to Kuntry after each match

BTW those 5 bajans deserve their picks

In reply to velo

an indictment of how far we have fallen....brooks, reifer and under 35 kraigg are automatic picks for a tour

In reply to Jumpstart
Thanks to the Players who would not be lead by a disrupter.
I am so glad the young Barbadian players saw right through you.
You like DD and others, are the problem.
Please leave our cricket to people who put West Indies cricket first.

In reply to Windiesfan78
Different format. So a test match lasts 5 days. If we can get 2 1/2 day of rain during each match, the guys should be able to hold off the Aussies for the other 2 1/2 days

In reply to Walco

Two lodge boys???

We beat in 2 days

In reply to openning

see thats half your problem.....culture of boy scoutry in cricket on the island.....which is why the players, specifically the batsmen don't develop the manliness and bravery and intelligence necessary to take on the world's best bowlers on a consistent basis. All the successful ones like mayers and roach are rebels who don't let archaic dinosaurs influence their game.


firstly.....the closest i have been to any of those failures was watching a day night fc fixture about five years ago in the oval. The then chief selector demonstrated an antipathy to manners by coming in a lift with three people(myself, my mother and another older lady) by saying absolutely nothing, not a good evening.

In reply to Jumpstart
Why is it Ashley Nurse and Carlos Brathwaite are always part of your comments?
What have these players done you?
Nurse is not playing for Barbados, and Carlos moved away.

In reply to Jumpstart

You seem to have developed a number of International stars, is Pooran and Darren Bravo come from your teaching?

In reply to openning

are they the only failures...........carter, Shayne Moseley,Raymon Reifer,Kyle Hope,Miguel Cummins.

i don't count dowrich as a failure, because he's actually talented, he's a disappointment,

In reply to openning

pooran is recognized as an international star.....that he has had four ipl contracts without doing anything spectacular is proof of that.

Darren Bravo up until the 2019 india series was the only west indian batsman averaging over 40. Maybe if he was a boy scout his career may not have had that exile imposed by a waterfalls resort manager, but i applaud him for standing up. Even holder, in some way should be applauded.....to captain a side from defeat to defeat, knowing you can't pick your best players because Baby Doc doesn't like them takes courage

In reply to Jumpstart
I look at Barbados cricket different from you and some of my fellow Bajans.
You cannot devalue a product, and get success.
The BCA have the most contracted players in the region, yet they failed in producing a quality International player.
I spoke with Carlisle Best over a decade ago about, some of the problems within the BCA structure.
The clubs with the BCA are becoming like the average BCL club, everyone want to be in the Elite or 1st Division, with players who should be playing 2nd division cricket.
I understand the problem within the BCA.
A section of Barbados population is not part of the cricket, why then are you having so many clubs competing for the limited amount of the top U19 players?

In reply to Jumpstart

What stopped him from making a T20 club career, like his brother and others?

In reply to sudden
Brooks counts as two now??? Or is there a Lodge boy in there that I don't know about?

In reply to velo

Where are these guys staying?
Who's paying?
Who is there to monitor their test match preparations? Monty and Estwick? ICM?
Are they assigned to a club and have access to the facilities?

In reply to openning

Barbados problem was explained very clearly by Rudi webster a few years ago.

the problem is that barbados cricket isn't and has not been intense enough to spot deficiencies before they're picked. Kraigg's problems are that he's slow on the front foot and frequently fishes his bat outside off stump with out bringing his body close to said bat. Nobody on the island told Tino that he moves his arms too much in delivery stride before Australia eviscerated him in 2003. Too his credit, he came back with a much more organized and economical action and was ok for one or two seasons. Even holder, Holder is 6' bloody 7 and never jumps in delivery stride to get added pace or bounce.....he would have 300 wickets by now if these things had been inculcated in his game early.


The coaches aren't interested in their players. They just want men who could win a FC four day title, a tournament that none of the top players have played in for over a decade and then get a WI call up if the board and the president are on good terms. They're producing players just to fly Barbados' flag, not to represent it in any meaningful way. Instead of focusing on these deficiencies, we have men like Hilary Beckles calling players, players better than the current and immediate past bajan players, cricketers without a cause, dons etc

In reply to Walco

I saw Reifer and thought about Floyd.

1 Lodge boy means we getting beat in a day and a half then

In reply to openning

i never got the impression darren wanted to be a t20 cricketer......the man is a stroke maker and a true artist.....complete with the artistic temperament. the 5 or 6 overs you get in a t20 is half of a warm up for him. He would never be satisfied with it.....if you're not satisfied, then you'll never be motivated

Why can't we all get along, this Trini, Bajan banter is quite silly. Why is it so difficult to admit that the team is average in tests and piss poor in limited overs cricket. We are simply not good enough as a unit. There is talent from Barbados, Trinidad, Jamaica, Guyana and the OECS. Do you really think when we win a match the lads care which country someone is from? I certainly don't.

In reply to Jumpstart
About 30 years ago, my son and I took our first ten golf lessons, at the end of the lessons, I was given a VHS tape of our swing.
Being a Suzuki parent I understood the value of lessons and having a visual.
I heard Kraigg say to Bishop, he has a personal batting coach, we will see if any changes is made since his last series.
Rudi and the South African, I did not had to hear from, I saw it with my own eyes.
The BCA need a professional league, in order to produce quality players.
Having one good player in a club, is not good for that player development.

In reply to Walco


What happened to your Lodge boy Ollie the posters

In reply to openning

yeah......Its unfortunate nobody IN barbados has said anything. I mean i look at RTN.RTN if he grew up in any other cricketing country (other than india an bangladesh; india because their concentration on pace bowling is an extremely new phenomenon) would have been bowling at 90mph with a significant jump to utilize his height and therefore bounce. Not that im saying the TTCB has done anything to encourage the good players we've seen in the last 20 years)....its a purple patch that is coming to an end; possibly we've had a few good coaches and the ipl and t20 cricket came along. And Trinidad as a country can't bring back the glory days for the WI unless we produce a lara as a batsman and a bishop as a bowler which is not going to happen. But i am saying cricket is more popular in barbados........it is by far the most popular sport there. And bajan batsmen and bowlers have had a reputation over the years for being technically correct, reliable players. As a result of the decline in the quality of coaching, you are seeing very un-bajan like players. Kirk Edwards.....very good on bouncy pitches and would probably do well in australia, if he had the chance. His technique though could not stand up to the rigors of the moving ball in england where unfortunately he fell. That is the first time I've seen a bajan batsman not able to adjust to the moving ball. And irk had a rell weird technique.....and honestly i don't know how they didn't pick it up because Barbados is famed for producing technically correct players


To be fair, its not a only bajan thing....we take talent in the WI and turn it into rubbish. Whereas in australia, they take crap, talentless players like steve smith and turn them into very good if not great players. But barbados takes the bulk because traditionally, the best WI cricketers come from there and west indians have a legitimate expectation that the island would produce world beating players. If the wi are to start winning tests again, bet your bottom dollar it would would be a side where barbados dominates

In reply to Jumpstart

how tall is Pollard?

In reply to tc1

pollard isn't a bowler.....he bowls a few whatevers but he isn't a bowler. When carlos first grabbed the headlines, it was as a bowler

In reply to Jumpstart


Jumpy you are listing height as a perquisite for fast bowling , but excuse Pollard who is the same height as Carlos.
Bye the way Carlos was an opening batsman / off spinner at u19 level.

In reply to Narper those details i don't know none of those things were in the press release

In reply to Jumpstartunfortunately that is how wi cricket is and it is unlikely to change any time soon hardly anybody averages over 35 at fc level

In reply to Walco

In reply to Windiesfan78
CWI is a product of every island in the region, Charity belong at home, over a decade ago, Fuzzy said to me, what I was proposing will increase his taxes.
Barbados which is the home of the Mecca, the greatest, the 3 W's, Malcolm, Wes, Joel, Conrad, Greenidge, Haynes and many others, has not produce an Elite international batsman since Dessie, thats a shame.

In reply to Jumpstart

And who would this Baby Doc character be?

In reply to Jumpstart

You have not be following CCC and the BCA.
RTN and others played for CCC, the program at CCC was best in the region, it is unfortunate that the academy no longer there.

In reply to Walco

In reply to openning

Some people just thought it unfair that Bim had 3 teams: CCC, HPC, and the senior Barbados team.

Ok, I know. Both CCC and the HPC had a few non-Bim players, but they could be counted on a single hand.

In reply to Drapsey

Years later they changed and the most were JAs and no one complained

So it wasn’t about fairness it was about too many bajans

In reply to Drapsey

there are 10 non Bajans on CC team, they are also 10 non-Bejans on HPC team, they are more yardies on HPC than Bajans, they are more TnT players on CCC than Bajans.

Do you just like to bitch .

In reply to openning

I have to agree with you on the point that Barbados has not produced an elite batsman since Dessie. There are players in recent times that showed promise such as Kirk Edwards, Kraigg and especially Shai Hope. However, lack of consistency is the problem. Paint may not be as gifted as Hope but he has shown that he belongs in the test arena. The series in Bangladesh that we won 2-0 was a turning point in his career. Making him captain of the test team was an excellent decision and has produced some very encouraging results. I would like to see him improve his average and I expect him to continue in tests only for the W.I.

In reply to openning

The CCC hasn’t produced anybody of consistently good quality. I’m not saying it’s a bad program, but I could guarantee you it hasn’t produced a test batsman who averages over 40 today or a bowler who averages imunder 30. Jason I think only played with them for a season and that was the CT20, the last edition before the CPL, in 2013

In reply to tc1

I don’t know why you’re comparing Pollard to Brathwaite. Pollard is a world renowned, internationally demanded cricketer, Carlos was given a few attempts in the IPL, failed miserably, and then was mercifully let go. And Brathwaite was picked as a bowler, not as the all rounder in the team. Russell and Bravo were the allrounders( when they were allowed to play). Brathwaite came in after Ramdin, which means he was the first of the bowlers. He only came in before Ramdin in the final

As I said, Carlos’ first fiver was against Trinidad at UWI oval in TT in 2011 I think. Of course the bajan newspapers behaved as if it was this new pace bowling star. And I didn’t see the performance so I thought so as well. When I finally saw him live, I couldn’t believe a TT team had nearly lost a game to a player of his pace. He was slow and did very little with the ball. And I am saying that is a result of coaching. Look at Cameron Green, a player of basically RTN’s height, might be an inch taller. Green utilizes his height beautifully as a bowler, and he is a genuine all rounder.

In reply to velo

It’s actually 7