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BeatDball 2023-02-22 10:54:02 

stewdents in the Baltimore public schools...not even, ONE, is on their grade level math! Skites, who has been in charge of inner cities' edyuhmacation for donkey years?! Now, socishitist immigrates, do a hasty retreat to your rat holes...you facts. I take that back...fools, pleez step up & discuss.

razz

 
Brerzerk 2023-02-22 10:58:34 

In reply to BeatDball
Do you think if you look all across America both rural and urban and in a few sub-urban areas you won’t find the same? Keep cherry-picking

 
BeatDball 2023-02-22 11:02:02 

In reply to Brerzerk BUT, THE INNER CITIES!? THE INNER CITIES! THE BLACKS & BROWNS...WHO PREACHES, BESEECH, BEG, PANDER FOR VOTES EVERY FACTING ELECTIONS TO FIX INNER CITIES' WOES? WHEN ARE YOU FACTS GOING TO BE RATIONAL, MAN?

evil

 
SnoopDog 2023-02-22 17:38:42 

In reply to Dotardballs

Actually asshole, Rednecks states are dead last when it comes to literacy and enrollment for colleges.

What are the Republicans doing for these ignorant rednecks apart from pandering to identity politics and perpetuating White supremacy?

 
BeatDball 2023-02-22 17:54:39 

In reply to SnoopDog Oh skites, jackrass, I stand corrected & will stand easy!
I really & truly didn't know that!

 
VIX 2023-02-22 18:19:11 

In reply to BeatDball

not even, ONE, is on their grade level math!


What a backward country.
The Caribbean should help by sending over some teachers, as long as bullet-proof vests and bunker style classrooms are provided.

 
Brerzerk 2023-02-22 20:49:17 

In reply to VIX
Caribbean Teachers have been recruited for decades and have made tremendous differences all over.
Ongle ting, if Dem ever lose their work permit and have to return home they cry like baby. 2008 Market crash is an example

 
KTom 2023-02-22 22:46:10 

Black American schoolchildren get a bad rap, but the PISA results in 2015 indicated they were/are doing as well, if not better, than their counterparts in Trinidad & Tobago (who participated in that round of the test programme, which are held every three years). Jamaica took part last year (held over from 2021 because of Covid) for the first time, although the results aren't due until later this year.

 
googley 2023-02-23 13:37:33 

In reply to SnoopDog

What are the Republicans doing for these ignorant rednecks




how else can they say this?

 
VIX 2023-02-23 17:48:28 

In reply to Brerzerk
They better off in the Caribbean

Ukraine teen refugee finds violence at San Francisco school so bad she wants to go back

Several kids fled the war-torn nation to pursue their dreams, among them is a teenaged girl who fled last year to settle in San Francisco, but now wants to return to Kyiv experiencing violence in public school systems in the US.


#best in the wurlll

 
Brerzerk 2023-02-23 17:58:42 

In reply to VIX
shameful

 
michaelmax 2023-02-24 13:24:40 

You all realize PISA test is meaningless and serves NO educational value. It is a test created by the OECD,an economic entity(not an educational one) to purportedly assess educational quality by making standard comparisons in Math and Literacy. The problem with this is those who create tge test have no expertise in education whatsoever but when has this ever stopped economists?

Worse, as a Western institution it them emphasizes what counts as knowledge in a Western sense and worldwide policymakers have blindly followed this test which has no curricular foundation. It assumes ALL 15 year olds worldwide should be at the same level in these domains despite different experiences. There is a LOT of literature critiquing PISA and its cousin TIMMS. It is just more neoliberal nonsense which has no mooring whatsoever in EDUCATIONAL values.

 
KTom 2023-02-24 16:42:17 

In reply to michaelmax

Are you suggesting that Jamaica may not rank that highly?

The problem with this is those who create tge test have no expertise in education whatsoever but when has this ever stopped economists?


Why assume they have no expertise in education? Can they not employ experts in that field? Isn't education a relevant subject for a body interested in developmental economics? If the OECD issue reports on comparative health statistics (life expectancy, infant mortality, etc.) would you reject those on the grounds that economists are not doctors?

Worse, as a Western institution it them emphasizes what counts as knowledge in a Western sense and worldwide policymakers have blindly followed this test which has no curricular foundation.


Does this mean the tests may be of educational value in a Western sense?

 
camos 2023-02-24 17:01:43 

In reply to KTom

Why assume they have no expertise in education? Can they not employ experts in that field?


Was wondering why would they undertake such a project inhouse and not hire expert outside vendors?

 
KTom 2023-02-24 17:23:42 

In reply to camos

Frankly, I haven't a clue as to how the OECD is structured, but we're fortunate to have an expert here in the shape of michaelmax who's clearly au fait with the relevant literature.

 
michaelmax 2023-02-24 19:50:45 

In reply to KTom

The OECD is an economic entity whose committment is to the economic imperatives of capital. That means they see education as a means of developing workers(and I don't mean workers who are critical, I mean just do as the boss says). It is at the very root of standards based education as pushed worldwide such as No Child Left Behind, Race to the top.
The value is economic competiveness not what purpose education serves educationally. Such standards based education has been pushed by IMF,World Bank, OECD, neoliberal economists such as Milton Friedman and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Search these people Sahlberg on GERM, Fuller &Stephenson (201cool, Froese-Germain (2010), Jang(2017).

 
michaelmax 2023-02-24 20:13:40 

In reply to KTom

The question you need to ask is WHY would an organization committed to the economic advancement of the developed countries want these statistics? Also why would they promote an educational agenda that is then projected on to the entire world? With global organizations one must always examine and question the motives? They are NOT interested in educationin a philosophical sense. They are interested in producing workers keep the international neoliberal capitalist machine working. Always question power and why and how it is used. We do not do enough of that.

 
michaelmax 2023-02-24 20:38:53 

In reply to KTom

The test cannot be based in educational value as the tests have NO curriculum. The tests are based on what those who write the tests assume all 15 year olds should know regarding Math etc

So should a fifteen year old in a remote rural area be expected to have the same knowledge as the urban 15 year old especially if there is differential access to schooling?

Are cross country comparisons valid given their different contexts? Every test we did in school /university etc was based on some specific curriculum-CSEC,A'Levels or our courses. PISA has no such foundation. It means then the items are culturally biased(as are all test items btw) but it seeks to compare across cultures

 
VIX 2023-03-01 15:37:26 

In reply to BeatDball

In bodycam footage, the student can be seen asking officers if he is 'going to jail,' while they handcuff him in the school.

'For how long?' the students asked. 'I don't know,' the officer replied.

Moments later he told officers: 'F**k you, I don't want to go to jail. I have more important things to do,' before accusing them of manhandling him.


No wonder murcan students are stupid.
Who the heck would want to teach in that kinda environment, and on top of that having to be wary of being shot up.

 
Brerzerk 2023-03-01 16:26:11 

In reply to VIX
The more important thing like video games can be attained in prison.
Bro its everywhere all over Murca as well as back home in all Islands plus GT n Belize.
Took a lunchtime walk last week and was passing by a school and I swear to God there was
a youthman with his pants waist buckled by a belt just above his knees!! Can parents make any difference???