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I can’t find the stats….

Courtesy…can you help please…I know that you are good with lies, damn lies and statistics

Blackwood is great, Jamaica rules

In reply to FanAttick

Take some consolation my friend in your pyrrhic victory. Blackwood did exceedingly well in this series.

His new found fame has improved his overall test average by leaps and bounds.

In reply to FanAttick
You have to be a lawyer, you find anyone to defend.

In reply to Courtesy

Holder and Blackwood helped to take a little shame out we eye…

In reply to openning

Give thanks for small mercies

In reply to FanAttick

Indeed

West Indies batting stats for the test tour

J.Holder 118 runs at 39
J.Blackwood 126 runs at 31
R.Reifer 85 runs at 21
J.Da Silva 81 runs at 20
K.Mayers 54 runs at 14
R. Chase 50 runs at 13
K.Braithwaite 46 runs at 12
T.Chanderpaul 35 runs at 9


Only 2 batsmen made over 100 runs

In reply to LBW375

Wow..so only 2 batters passed 100 and only one batter made more than 120? Wow

In reply to FanAttick


And the highest test ave was 39...not bad...while others were struggling to reach an average of 32.

In reply to Courtesy

There you go again with lies, damn lies and statistics

In reply to FanAttick

Yep I know...your justification for the thread was not based on stats but to satisfy a narrow nationalistic fervour.

You have asked for input with stats, I'll provide them.

In reply to LBW375

Are you playing bingo?

In reply to Courtesy

Speak the truth. You’re allergic to facts aren’t you?

In reply to FanAttick

Sorry...Jason Holder did not top the batting averages...my bad.

In reply to Courtesy

What does “top the averages” have to do with “most runs”?
The “Twain” are not the same…

One positive from this series.

It has left the door wide open for Shai Hope's return to test cricket.

In reply to Drapsey

Abject Failure Shai Hope has an ODI series coming up against the Saffies…

You better pray that he lasts the series….

In reply to Drapsey

What about Bravo!

In reply to FanAttick

It helps differentiate the wood from the trees.

Why limit ones perpective? Just to satisfy a narrow partisan interest?

In reply to FanAttick

Hopefully Bravo and Athanaze continue their good form from the previous rounds.

In reply to Courtesy

Actually it helps to differentiate your lack of comprehension


Apparently when asked for the highest aggregate on a test you selected the highest averages…It would explain why you were such a poor student

In reply to FanAttick

I see you have moved from tests to ODIs. How come? At the very least, I stuck to test stats.

What manner of man are you?

In reply to Courtesy

And you now ask that question?

In reply to WICFan

Weird. How comes the man with the most runs has a lower average despite playing the same number of innings?

In reply to sudden

I was only attempting to be overly generous and polite but there is always a limit. I dislike persons with no shame.

In reply to camos

Albeit Bravo is my favorite WI batsman (a very pleasant reminder of BCL), I continue to have doubts about his mettle.

In reply to Courtesy

Because Drapsey introduced a specialist ODI player into the conversation….

In reply to FanAttick

Should we stipulate we are referring to test cricket?

In reply to FanAttick

In reply to FanAttick

So you were being a leech clinging on to somebody's post even though it is not germane to the thread.

In reply to sudden

Maybe we should so that when peeps are suggesting alternatives they nominate test quality players only

I dont understand how someone in their right mind can mention Hope as a contender for test cricket given his record or lack thereof

In reply to FanAttick

I actually meant so that you wouldn’t convolute test with ODI but it would work for that too

In reply to Courtesy

Similarly, peeps should know that averages are not “Jermaine”(pun intended) to a thread on aggregates

In reply to FanAttick

Stop being pedantic...stats are stats.

In reply to FanAttick

Averages are an integral part of assessing performances

So are aggregate scores

The court takes judicial notice of both contentions

Please move on gentlemen

In reply to sudden

Your Honour, I like the fact that Fan is falling on his ass in public but I "move on."

In reply to sudden

So are you saying that if Player 1 makes 160 in 4 innings and averages 40 his performance is on par with Player 2 who makes 21, 1*, 1* and 17*?

In reply to FanAttick

What if player I scores 160, 0, 0, and 0.

Stop falling on your ass.

In reply to FanAttick

This argument around this matter has been exhaustive

The court has ruled

Move on Counselor

In reply to Courtesy

So that performance is on par with 21, 1*, 1*, and 17*?



In reply to sudden

Answer the question with a simple yes or no counselor

In reply to FanAttick

Absolutely. The metric average serves to broaden the perspective.

We can also throw out the outliers for an even broader perspective of centrality. So we throw out 160 and 0. Again, stop falling on your ass.

In reply to Courtesy

No wonder you named your national stadium for Darren Sammy….

In reply to FanAttick

You are wasting time Counselor

Argue your case

In reply to FanAttick

You are generally of the most taciturn disposition. What has gone wrong?

In reply to Courtesy

So what would you throw out from 21, 1*, 1* and 17* given the lack of outliers and remarkable consistency?

In reply to FanAttick

Don't tell me you are this dunce to ask this question. Answer: Whatever you remove from the stats above, it will boss what's left for player 1.

It pays big time to see the Blackwood from the trees.

In reply to Courtesy

The point is that player 2 doesnt have any outliers….4 innings…nothing to write home about….


So to use your argument - since you’re one of those calling for Hope…if you take out his 2 outliers in one match from 2017 - what is left in the tank for him?


Take me into your mindset for naming your national stadium for Sammy please…I’m struggling to understand

In reply to FanAttick

I suggest strongly that you check the meaning of outlier in stats. Isn't 1 an outlier? Please put you data in ascending or descending order.

Do you wish to continue pursuing this?

I am really sorry that I have to do this to you.

In reply to Courtesy

Statistical Definition of an Outlier:

I rest my case…


Dont assume bro…

I have an undergraduate degree (1st class honors I might add) in economics and statistics….

In reply to FanAttick

What is a data point, may I ask? I don't enjoy this.

In reply to FanAttick

I am a subsistence peanut farmer.

In reply to Courtesy

So the definition of an outlier is that it is a data point?
I hope your girlfriend doesn’t tell you that she is “half pregnant”!

In reply to Courtesy

The court notes that Courtesy has a first class degree in subsistence farming

In reply to FanAttick

In simple terms, an outlier is an extremely high or extremely low data point relative to the nearest data point.

In reply to sudden

Your Honour, you are correct. I wish I had gone to school.

In reply to Courtesy

If the court may intervene, Counselor Courtesy, are you contending, notwithstanding Counselor Fan’s declaration that he has a first class degree in eco and stats, that he is mistaken about data points?

In reply to Courtesy

Your emphasis:

The truth:



2 things are not the same

They used to call that Mental Ability back when I was in primary school. Clearly you failed that part of your common entrance test


So in a series of 21, 1*, 1* and 23* there are no outliers….

In reply to sudden

I am saying Your Honour, he does not know his ass from his elbow.

He does not understand what is an outlier and what is a data point.

In reply to Courtesy

That may be true - but I do know that you have no clue what an outlier is!

Not all data points are outliers…

So to tell me that an outlier is a data point is at best incomplete…..

In reply to FanAttick

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You may have missed my definition of an outlier above.

In reply to Courtesy

Au contraire mon ami - I did not miss it

The point(pun intended) is that not all data series have outliers….I dont expect you(given your general lack of understanding) to understand that nuance

I gave you a series of 4 numbers ranging from 1-23,with 2 being in the 20s and 2 being in the ones and asked you to identify the outlier…clearly by the definition of outliers(extremely high or extremely low) there are none…

In reply to FanAttick

Dont obfuscate now. I never suggested the above and it's silly to move in that direction.

Gentleman you are wasting the court’s time please argue the substantive matter

In reply to sudden

What's the substantive issue again, Your Honour?

is it a global look at end of tour stats?

In reply to Courtesy

What you said :



My response:



Your response:



Your Honor: The defense rests

In reply to FanAttick



Poor you. My response above was pellucidly clear.

In reply to Courtesy

If it is that Counselors are not seized of the argument in issue, this matter must end

You have wasted enough of the court’s time

I am minded to censure both counselors but there will be more issues to argue ahead so the court will delay that order

Please rise, the matter is dismissed for lack of proper counsel if not counselors

In reply to Courtesy



Sidebar: You have the right to plead the 5th…counselor suggests that you avoid further self incrimination

In reply to sudden

Finally Your Honour...this is where Fan opened the door and I walked thru it BIG TIME:

So Your Honour, I simply helped him with the stats and for this he should be eternally grateful.

I rest, Your Honour.

In reply to Courtesy

Here is some good news:

Inadequate representation can be grounds for an appeal. Given the shabolic representation from your attorney sudden, you stand a good chance to get the guilty verdict against you (for not understanding what is an outlier) overturned on appeal

In reply to FanAttick

This court referred to lack of proper counsel on the part of both counselors. Neither side was disadvantaged or benefited so any appeal is a nullity

In reply to sudden

Tell that to Inmate Courtesy who is now looking at a sentence of 5-15 for his Class C Felony conviction in the state of New York!

In reply to Courtesy

... who studied medicine with the future Deputy Minister of Health of the Republic of Liberia.

Thank you guys every single post on this thread makes me laugh. Softens the beat-dung woes.
Just imagine if Blacks had taken Suds advice and play for the not-out

Oh forgot he isn’t good enough to do that.