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link Larr Pullo Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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In reply to newdread

Christine...Dwain Gill is a dedicated servant of West Indies cricket and has managed several teams at the regional and international level - including the winning WI U-19 team in 2016.

He is a Barbadian by birth and has lived in Grenada for several years. He has worked his way through cricket administration in the Windwards and now serves as President of the Windwards Board.

I hold no special brief for him, but I think that citing his appointment as an insular pick and one that "stinks" may be slightly unfair.


Thanks for providing some balance here...

link camos Joined: May 6, 2003
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A director should not be on tour with a team, that's like having a board member on a production line, at a minimum it can be intimidating.

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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didn't another CWI director apply for and was offered a job recently at CWI?

Or did that director resign before applying for the job?

link camos Joined: May 6, 2003
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Not sure other than the Sammy case; how can an outsider get a nonbiased evaluation when competing in such a situation?

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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Mr. Dwain Gill, Member Director, Windward Islands Cricket Board of Control - Mr. Gill is the President of the Grenada Cricket Association. He is a Grenadian and is employed as a Lecturer at the T.A. Marryshow Community College. Mr. Gill has almost two decades of experience in sports administration. Most notably he has served as the Manager of the St. Lucia Zouks/Star Team, the West Indies A Team, and the World Champion West Indies U19 Team. Mr. Gill holds a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration and a Master of Business Administration.


cwi

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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how can an outsider get a nonbiased evaluation when competing in such a situation?


the manager of the team is not an advertised position i believe

at least i can't remember seeing such an ad

link camos Joined: May 6, 2003
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that comment relates to the coach and other more permanent positions.

One has to wonder about the vendor services that the CWI awards, can you imagine what is happening in this out of sight area? lol

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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the right thing to do is for that person to resign if they want to apply for that position, isn't it?

is Sammy still one of those other directors tho? I don't know.

link camos Joined: May 6, 2003
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In reply to doosra

It is like applying for the same job along with the son of the company owner!

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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is that "lady" from SVG Mr. Carol James Henry from St Lucia?

Mr. Carol James Henry, Member Director, Windward Islands Cricket Board of Control - Mr. Henry is a retired, Scotiabanker of 33 years' service and current President of the St Lucia National Cricket Association. He is a founding member and one third of The Tripod Committee which manages the affairs of 7-year-old United Raiders Cricket Club. Mr. Henry is well known for his professionalism, borne out of the service culture of the banking industry. He upholds the core values of customer centric service, results focus, sales and marketing, leadership and change management, accountability and fiscal management, performance measurement, people management and supervision.

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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In reply to doosra

No, talking bout Stacy Ann Adams.

HEADLINE: WICB new boss makes historic appointment with female selection panellist

If we add Mr Henry to the list of Dr Shallow's appointees, that would make it 4 Windward Islanders (and counting). The Leeward Islanders must be livid.

Come in VOR.

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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thanks.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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In reply to camos

It is like applying for the same job along with the son of the company owner!

You are correct

link Logic Joined: Jun 19, 2005
Posts: 4524 5/25/23, 4:49:59 PM 
A few thoughts:
- It's common for companies to have executive directors
- As long as the director does not also sit on any disciplinary committee of the Board I dont see what disadvantage accrues to the players
- I doubt manager of an A team tour is a permanent position. Seems efficient to contract from within as long as the individual has a record of competency.

I feel as if Shallow and Gill are being unnecessarily pilloried over small potatoes

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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directors don't have to 'sit' on the committees to influence their work tho...

i am not saying that happens here, i don't know

link Jumpstart Joined: Nov 30, 2017
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In reply to Chrissy

doubt anybody behavior could be as uncouth and vulgar as rousseau and the big idiot. and retroactive

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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In reply to Jumpstart

Yep, one thing about Dr Hilaire, the best WICB President by far, he was as cool (/smooth) as a cucumber, even during his instigation of the Chairman incident.

link XDFIX Joined: Mar 2, 2003
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Nepotism raises its ugly head, an incestuous relationship to say the least!

link Jumpstart Joined: Nov 30, 2017
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lord i forgot him...but he was a CEO. not the president though. Although dragon face gave him so much free reign that he appeared to be president. we've had so many insecure, problematic nincompoops running the show that you can forget lol

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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In reply to Jumpstart

Oops, I forgot that the other Dr was actually the WICB President.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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He knew my views and so did everyone in di region.
Unlike most folks here I apply the same rules for all a dem.
I was not and am not afraid to call out peeps who I know - some quite well and some still vexed.

link Jumpstart Joined: Nov 30, 2017
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In reply to Chrissy

not saying no. you seem to be a very, very fair person. I'm just saying rousseau and cameron went out of their way to be offensive. Griffith wasn't very far after.

link Brerzerk Joined: Mar 16, 2021
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What were the wrongs Rousseau did. I still do not fully understand the circumstances surrounding the Lara/Walsh/Hooper led strike. But admired the fact that Rousseau himself flew to London
to negotiate with them unlike Cameron and Pipe-buss. The behavior of most of the top echelon of CWI is more akin to that of Neo-colonialists than merely old-boys' clubbers.

link anandgb Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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The current WICB president is characteristic to his name, "Shallow".
lol lol lol

link Headley Joined: Dec 2, 2007
Posts: 11175 5/27/23, 1:02:35 AM 
In reply to Cheeks

Dwain is Bajan... accent and all. Grenadian wife though. Also was a decent lil batsman in his day. Not relevant to the topic at hand...jes sayin.


For completeness you should state that Dwain was born in Barbados and lived in Bim until his early 30's AND his parents were Grenadian (not just his wife).big grin

More seriously, Chrissy's point is related to the conflict of interest but it takes a certain level of objectivity to appreciate a conflict of intetest. The political class in the Caribbean don't really see conflicts of interest.

Just saw above that Dukes wrote somewhat similar comments on the subject of conflict of interest. They say fools seldom differ. lol big grin lol big grin lol

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