In reply to brians_da_best
I agree to give him a shot.

In reply to Onionman0



Boss ..I am not trying to defend Sammy's selection as 50 over or even T20 coach. I was addressing doosra's accusation of double standards..because a poster in previous times questioned Sammy's cricketing ability and ongoing selection. I was suggesting why that poster may have adjusted his position when considering the evidence and the fact that Windies don't have all the world's resources at their fingertips for the job.

I keep saying smaller markets generally have to learn to compromise and make the best of what's available via creativity, innovation and sometimes veering a little bit away from rigid and prescriptive quantitative criteria. This is the real world. Easy to talk when you work from some large corporation that has access to a large labor market and can throw large remuneration packages at top notch experts. Keep it real bruh. My guess is the men feel that Sammy brings some intangibles like passion, committment, making the best of your talent, attitude, communication skills, ability to inspire along with his actual playing experiences as regular player and as leader to help mold a young team.

I think it's worth a shot dammit.

In reply to Wally-1



I agree...Sammy hinspired Sextillion. Sextillion was the real hero truth be told. But Sammy was the glue and director..especially when we were fielding.

In reply to Cheeks
On a serious note, Sammy might have the intangibles to be a great coach, but we'll never find out unless he's given a shot.

In reply to Wally-1



I agree. Its not like we have a whole lot to lose.

In reply to Cheeks

Sammy may yet turn out to be great coach; Time will tell. However suspect the rationale was for handing him the position, we have to coalesce around the team and give it our support. Lest we forget, quite a few successful coaches were mediocre players and Sammy was nothing if not relentlessly mediocre.

The main reservation is that, in his new role, there will be no Samuels, Narine, and Gayle to do the heavy lifting while Sammy reaps the undeserved accolades, but lets give him a chance!
He can't be any worse than some of the others who have preceded him.

In reply to SnoopDog

You are shortchanging Sammy. You neglected to mention his toss-spinning ability to go with his peerless clapping ability!

In reply to jacksprat
Well put.

In reply to jacksprat

No one wants to mention his track record as captain of the Mooks in the CPL.

If he was supposedly this great captain, and leader, then surely there would be an instance where his supreme "intangibles" led an ordinary group of players (ie. the Mooks) to win a title...or two.

In reply to Cheeks

Having talented players.....and man managing them ....is the job Sammy excel....team comprised of Gayle,Bravo, Pollard, Samuels....all temperamental stars.... Sammy man managed them to 2 world cup trophies... with hardly any personal contribution....

But here , Sammy has totally different task....to mould a team .... technically and strategically.....to work on individual players to maximum their capabilities.... Sammy doesn't have any knowledge, experience or credibility.....he doesn't even have requisite 5 year experience as laid down by CWI.....he has 2-3 years experience as Zalmi coach....in T-20...... nothing international or regional list A or First class.... Sammy is nothing but a back door entry....in most opaque manner of Coach appointment by CWI....in such secrecy....not even revealing, who were the other applicants.

Sammy guaranteed to draw out the usual suspects.

Zouks are a hurriedly put together franchise with hardly anytime to mould into DJG's lean mean fighting machine. Give di leedah some time to work with the group..and he churns out success. . On the biggest stage of that 2012 T20 final ...Sammy was arguably our second best performer overall and best allrounder with runs, catches and wickets.

Rain saved Sri Lanka from his explosive bat in 2014.

2016 was different story...his leadership was all that was needed of him..and he delivered in spades.

Factzz iz factz.

In reply to Onionman0

I feel we’re being too negative (or insular) about everything here.

Was there a similar buzz when England appointed Baz as their coach?

Past players don’t neee the kind of certifications you guys are in about. The fact that they played cricket at all levels is all they need.

The fact is someone like Sammy or Baz or whoever know way more about coaching that many classroom coaches/

We need to give him a fair run and hope the results change. Else westbindies cricket would seriously run into oblivion

In reply to brians_da_best




Indeed sah. Truth be told..its par for the course here. I have learnt to have a laugh about it.
I keep saying though...that overly prescriptive and rigid criteria will NOT get Windies what they are looking for in a coach. There are realities of where we are today and what we can offer to consider. Good recruiters have to learn to look beyond di papers. It is what it is.

In reply to brians_da_best

I fully endorse your view...many players without certificate can perform with great success as coach....no dispute regarding this aspect....on the contrary, many certified coaches failed miserably......but Sammy appointment for me is poor....

1. The mode of appointment - Totally opaque... shrouded with secrecy....who applied...how many applied... Whether Sammy was the best among all the candidates????? CWI never released any statement...No posters have any information...

2.The eligibility criteria as laid down in CWI advertisement..... totally cast aside in Sammy appointment...one of the many criteria......5 years experience was one mandatory requirement at international or regional first class.... Sammy doesn't have 5 years experience...then what prompted CWI to appoint a personal, whose eligibility criteria doesn't satisfy to be appointed.

3. Sammy is excellent man manager....he managed a temperamental group of players Gayle, Samuels,Bravo , Pollard....won two world cup trophies without much personal performance to show.

4.Brendon McCullum as player lead from front with performance....in all format...He moulded his players into aggressive unit as captain.On the contrary, Sammy almost always was dependent on other players like Shiv, Gayle other established players to win....not a single good player developed during his tenure as captain..... ....nothing about building team but simply man management...

5.Present team requires a coach, who can technically, strategically and technologically build a strong set of players. Sammy as player and captain failed miserably in ODI, inspite having good team.No experience as coach in ODI.

To wrap up , it's a back door entry,for supporting the administration...bound to fail ....hope we can qualify for World Cup ODI....in easy group....then ,from there, we can talk, stock.......

In reply to Onionman0

I don’t agree.

For a change, the wicb has demonstrated some out of the box thinking, and that should be appreciated. Whether it works or not, time will tell.

1. They interviewed 30 applicants, 6 made the short list. Shiv was runner up

2.refer to my point about out of the box thinking. Many get jobs that they don’t fully meet the criteria for because the management senses something and goes on instinct

3. I agree regarding his man management. I feel he’ll be able to get the best out of many of our players. Time will tell

4. Many lesser players have made great coaches and many great coaches have been poor players

5. Sammy knows more about cricket than many other sople. He played for close to 10 yes, played all formats, had his moments on the field. He knows way more about the game than people give him credit for

The idea of bashing someone even before his first assignment starts doesn’t make sense. Let his performances speak for him. He has the full support of the team mentor, Lara and I feel this could be a good combination.

Give the man a chance is all I would say