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https://youtu.be/Q-xDrFcT31s not a good look at all for a guy his age. Has he ever played in the ipl

In reply to velo

Yes, I do not know why he is playing in the CPL while Athanaze is sitting on the bench, he does not bowl in the CPL or any T20 matches and he cannot field anywhere else but short thirdman and slips. He is a talented player, but every format have specific requirements

This is shameful in 2023...get this man a gym membership and lock the gym door..

Cornwall smarter than all of you lol. The man know that with a direct hit he was never going to make it and it the throw missed the wickets then he would have been in easily. Over exerting himself to make an impossible run and possibly injuring himself did not make sense. When you watch the replay, there was no way he was gonna make it once there was a direct hit.

What I do not understand is how Powell trust Chase to bowl in a T20 match but lack trust in Cornwall. Can't have an off spinner of his quality in the team and he does not bowl a ball. If he is not playing for his all-round ability then play a pure batsman. Althanaze is there waiting, for example.

In reply to b4u8me2

Chase and Powell are on different teams

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

In reply to b4u8me2


It was reported than Athanaze is carrying a niggle.

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

I think he meant same cappo has different trust levels on Chase vs The Wall. He bowled Chase in the T20 against India and but not The Wall in last night's game (CPL).

In reply to velo

you know when pollard throttled cornwall for his fitness, everyone accused KP of being a bully.

also called Polly for not bowling Smith but subsequent cappos who have bowled Smith have generally regretted it!!

In reply to Jumpstart

You again with that revisionist history shite. Polly did no such thing. Polly was pissed because he thought it was unfair that Cornwall was allowed to fake an injury and retire "hurt", when in fact, Cornwall was retiring "unfit"

In reply to pooranian

If y'all want Jimbo to run quick singles just leave a mars bars next to the umpire at the non-striker's end when he's batting.

Problem solved.

In reply to Walco

How different?

In reply to Walco

And the Wall had 70 plus runs...was a muderous innings...about 5 years ago

Last night the wall was run out first ball of the innings...he did field for 20 overs but strangely didnt bowl

So he was fitter while fatter- now that is some revisionist sh!t

Wicked and nasty people make fun of others who have physical challenges.

A reasonable person would have been happy to see Cornwall in the field of play and supporting his success as he can be an inspiration to so many of our people who have weight issues and other physical challenges.

Please don't make assumption that he isn't working hard to improve his fitness. In fact, none of us know the pain and sacrifice he is putting himself through to simply do his job.

For those of you criticizing his disability, I bet none of you are 100% fit and I am certain all of you have the proverbial "dhal belly."

In reply to Walco

Ah think you meant retired tired. The reality of the situation was dat Cornwall cud not get the ball away, cudn take quick singles and cudn run twos so he was encouraged to retire. While Polly wud have preferred to keep him at the wicket, a batsman can retire out at any time in his inning. It just was something that wasn't universally considered in T20 cricket.

In fairness to Jimbo, de IPL has adopted the concept and now allows persons to retire for strategic reasons

Cornwall should be allowed to bat with a runner.

In reply to Jumpstart

Look, I am a big Polly fan, but in that incident, Polly was wrong. As simple as that.

In reply to cricketmad

He should be allowed to field with a runner too.

Oh wait. That's what the wicket keeper does.

In reply to Mulla bin Emir

PullFraud was 100% correct in that incident.

A player doesn't get to go off the field of play and declared as "injured" and allowed to come back and resume his innings just because he's morbidly obese and woefully unfit for the requirements of professional sports.

In reply to SnoopDog

Jimbo is no Arjuna Ranatunga!!!

In reply to googley

See! Precedent was set a long time ago for that brilliant strategy.

In reply to Emir
He can't go off because he was unfit- there is no rule like that ...

In reply to Barry

He can ... but he just cant come back on to bat

In reply to PalsofMine

If it's a legitimate injury the player can leave the field of play and resume his innings later on.

In Jimbo's case his "injury" was being fat and out of shape and the reason PullFraud said no dice.

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In reply to Barry

Barry boy,

The fellas on Sportsmax here defending Cornwall - Lance and his co host.

It was ugly and embarrassing .

those are facts.

no soft soaping of that will fly with me.

If they want to deal with ugly comments on Social Media...do that...but dont try to excuse that folly we all witnessed last night.

In reply to Barry

Pollard was not right. He was trying to influence a situation in his favour, knowing full well that a player is allowed to retire at any time during an inning. The reason for the retirement, which must be given to the umpire at the bowler's end, will determine whether the player can return at the fall of a wicket unopposed or require the permission of the opposing captain

In reply to powen001

I know its hard for you to focus- Can a batsman retire because of tiredness? I already know your Christian hatred for Pollard. I accept that and I accept you.

In reply to Maispwi

So if you have a hot sh!t, you can just walk off?

In reply to Maispwi

Was he retiring hurt or retiring out?
retiring tired.........................

In reply to SnoopDog

Thing is…..Cornwall has been looking the same since he started. Now it may be a medical issue and he really can’t control how much he blows up to…..but it can also be a total lack of commitment to any kind of fitness. I mean Cornwall has on more than one occasion left the field because he was gasping for air agmfter running. Whatever it is it needs to be settled.

In reply to velo

cornwall is a total waste. infront of permaul and moti? and any wan else.but then again. is west indies cricket we talking. pol-li-ticks

In reply to Narper

I remember that well. What most don't remember is that it was his batting partner Marlon Samuels who "retired" Cornwall by sending him off the field. But Polly only had chat for Cornwall. None for Icon

We should not be fat-shaming we players

Dumb-shame the selectors if those not of the ‘right size shape colour accent height smile hair’ find their way onto your teams

In reply to Jumpstart

Not true. About 6 years ago, CWI paid for Cornwall to spend one month at a "facility" in the United States. During that stint, Cornwall lost 30 lbs. He was then told that CWI would send him back to that facility the following year if he maintained or improved his weight and fitness on his own. Neither happened and Cornwall never made it back to that facility.

In reply to Halliwell

Are you referring to the comments on this thread, or to what Polly did during that "retired tired and unfit" game?

In reply to Walco

Was Rampaul fat-shamed by Dottie retards?

Pollard vs. Cornwall

Here’s the video, to be fair Pollard did hit the man in his chest when he was bowling at 4:25 not that Pollard can bowl fast but that could’ve been what affected Cornwall!!!

The promoters of CPL market it as the biggest party in sports. There’s a carnival atmosphere at the stadiums. Cornwall is a novelty act that fits right in. If there’s any form of cricket he should be playing in, this is it.

The runout was embarrassing but Cornwall should not be blamed, what do you expect from an obese man playing in a game that demands a certain amount of athleticism. Cornwall moves like a lumbering locomotive. His only task, if he is playing, is to try to hit the ball over the top. There shouldn’t be any expectation or attempt of a quick single.

In reply to Walco

I meant this thread

I didn’t hear Polly say that with my own 2 ears so he ent say it as far as I concern

In reply to Titleist

The expectations of consumers are always legitimate

Y'all can say all y'all want fuh seh but I glad to rass Corny did not become a jockey. Both me and dem horses.

The man wanted athletic skill and got it but wasn't blessed with the physique.

Lazy fat sod….

There are three primary facets to playing cricket - the ability to bat, bowl and field. Some say a player ought to be able to do at least two of those three effectively. Cornwall is no doubt an effective bowler and batsman. His physique primarily affects his fielding, and even then he is an excellent slip fielder. Sometimes the comments I read suggests that they rather to play a fit cricketer than a cricketer who will win you games by virtue of excelling in any of the three facets I've outlined. I would play the most unfit person in the world is he is gonna score me a hundred consistently or take wickets consistently than the fittest person in the world who is making me no runs and taking me no wickets.

We have to bear in mind the whole purpose of a cricketer. While fitness is key, mainly for health purposes, the fittest man in the world doesn't necessarily know how to play cricket. So the main factor for selection cannot be fitness over and above the ability to bat, bowl and field. We have had many great crickets who excelled in only one facet of the game. Great cricketers who was no better than Cornwall on a cricket field and who could either only bowl or bat. Courtney Walsh, for example, was an amazing bowler but he couldn't bat not did he field well.

For me, while fitness should be encouraged, the utility of a player and whether they will win you games ought to the paramount consideration. Ruling a player out solely based on fitness is rubbish if that player is still your best utility player. Obviously, despite his/her fitness issues they are still better and more effective than the fit people you are selecting above them.

In reply to b4u8me2

There are degrees of fitness if your physical fitness compromises your ability to play at optimum level that is a problem.

In reply to velo

But if one's degree of fitness compromises his/her ability to play at a standard that makes them a utility to the team then it stands that they are not a utility player. What you all have concluded, somehow, is that Cornwall is incapable because if his fitness issues despite the fact that he has outperformed all who is considered fit. Performance is what counts at the end of the day whether fit or not. Same foolishness happened when the WI dropped Evin Lewis saying he is unfit when the man was out best batsman in the previous series the WI played. He was replaced with a less capable but fit player. It's like fitness is paramount and performance is secondary. For me, performance ought to be paramount. I rather an unfit player who performs than a fit player who does not.

In reply to b4u8me2

And I would rather a fit player who performs. The problem with Cornwall, and I am saying this because he seems to be getting bigger instead of smaller, is that there is no objective evidence that he is committed to improving his fitness. That is dangerous for him from a personal health perspective, but it is also bad for his team. Professional are supposed to work on their weaknesses. I just hope he does not drop dead on a cricket field one day.

In reply to velo He didn't even make an effort to lean forward with bat outstretched! De facter just gave up!

In reply to Walco


Of course a fit player who performs is the ideal. But can you tell me which fit offbreak bowler we have that outperforms the unfit Cornwall?

In reply to b4u8me2

No player comes to mind.

But you said "I rather an unfit player who performs ..." Let me take the statement to its ridiculous conclusion. How many unfit players who "perform" would you allow into a team? 2? 4? 6? 8? 11? How do you think a team with 11 unfit players would "perform"?

I suppose you are also a fan of medical exemptions for unfit players.

In reply to Barry

The irony in that post is only surpassed by the ignorance of its intent Barry.

The Subject Matter was the run out in THIS MATCH...not the past offense he clearly committed and Polly was correct for being pissed with him.

Any criticism of Polly was his bull head piss poor man management skills- which eventually manifested in his piss poor run of form.


There

I hope that helped you to focus

Some of these comments are beyond absurd.

Cricket should be about picking the best team in the circumstances for a desired objective.

Irrespective of whether a domestic or international T20 fixture, no objective person can say honestly that Rahkeem makes a best XI if his remit is to be a pinch hitter at the top, who largely does not bowl and has mobility issues both batting and fielding.

If the discussion was around a FC or test match best XI given his ability for handy lower order runs, being an effective slow bowler and a decent enough slip fielder, then of course he comes into the overall conversation depending on the team construct.

There is a reason why no CPL has won a title with Rahkeem and I dare say this Royals team will not do the same, although to be fair to Rahkeem, it’s more because of the overall poorly constructed team roster.

What occurred with that Run Out is exactly why folks need to give it a break. The real agenda is advocating a play. It’s the same rationale as to why i cannot support a play for my fellow bajan Reifer as a Test No. 3 or any of the other absurdities that is West Indies Cricket.

In reply to Walco


I said I prefer a performing unfit player than a fit player who does not perform. So please complete the quote when quoting me.

To answer your question, I rather 11 players who are considered unfit but can out bat and bowl any team than 11 fit players who cannot out bat or bowl any team. If fitness is your paramount requirement rather than cricketing skills then you could get Manchester United players to play on your cricket team. See if those 11 fit players would win a cricket match against 11 Cornwalls. If there is a better off spinner than Cornwall who is fit then play him. As unfit as Cornwall is, there is no fit off spinner that is more effective than he has been. I will not play an ineffective bowler just because he is fit.

In reply to b4u8me2

Well I would prefer a player with talent and skill who’s fit a la Virat Kohli!!!

Don’t you think someone like Hetmyer can maximize his talent by being in the best possible physical shape???

Nicholas Pooran has went that route and is certainly reaping the benefits!!!

Look Cornwall is talented in his own right but imagine how good he can be with a little more effort on his fitness!!!

In reply to b4u8me2

Where did I say fitness is my paramount concern? I already said that I want fit players who perform.

You did not address medical exemptions for unfit players, but I think that policy is one of the biggest blunders of the Empty Skillet administration. Why should players like Hetmyer, Lewis, Odean Smith, Rutherford, Narine and others buss their butts to pass a yoyo fitness test when Cornwall is allowed to slide with a medical exemption?

Finally, you apparently view Cornwall as an unfit player who performs, or more narrowly as an unfit off spinner who performs. In my book, Cornwall does not perform well enough to justify overlooking his limitations in the field when it comes to any form of cricket other than T20 fete matches. If we don't have a world class off spinner, which we don't, there is no need to play an unfit Cornwall, who shows not interest in improving his fitness. Give Kevin Sinclair a shot instead.

In reply to Walco
buss him up brother

In reply to Walco

Saying you want fit players who perform was never an issue. You said that like I said I rather an unfit performing player over a fit performing player. That was never ever my point. My comparison is that of a fit and unperforming player with an unfit but performing player. The fact that you cannot identify a better off spinner in the region than Cornwall is enough. You would rather play a fit and unperforming player above an unfit but performing player. Unless you can identify a fit and better off spinner then Cornwall, then your only reason for not selecting him would be because of his fitness. That means that you are placing fitness about talent and skills. So seeing there are no fit and impactful spinner in the region to pick, you can play your fit but no good spinner and I will play the unfit and better spinner in Cornwall. See who win matches lol.

In reply to b4u8me2

What about Roston Chase?

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy


In test matches, I would never play Chase as my main bowler. If I'm playing Chase it is as a middle order batsman. If he cannot make my team as one of the middle order batsmen then he doesn't make my team at all. His bowling is good enough as a back up bowler but not as a main test bowler. I would play Cornwall over Chase as a main bowler in test matches any day.

In reply to b4u8me2

He buss up with a 2 by 4

In reply to b4u8me2

Check their stats

In reply to b4u8me2

Where did I say that I want fit players who are not performing? When did Cornwall become a "performing" player who stands head and shoulders above the other spinners in the region? He is perhaps the best of an ordinary lot of spinners. And where is the rule that an off spinner has to be selected in every team?

If I have a choice between Cornwall and a fit Sinclair, Motie or Warrican, it would never be Cornwall because of fitness and health issues. But my first choice would be to give chances to Sinclair and Motie because we already know what we will be getting from Cornwall, Warrican, Chase and the others who have already gotten their chances.

In reply to BeatDball
When you think you've seen it all in WI cricket, it sinks to another low.
That shouldn't be seen on any cricket field not even a replay.

In reply to Walco

This. Considering his severe limitations in running between the wickets and in fielding (two critical components of the game), he should display substantial advantages in the areas where he can perform (bowling and scoring). He does not. Therefore, he should be nowhere near an international side.

Cornwall must eat a food

In reply to nissan

A diet food?

This is a better debate…does he make a Teat team?

The facts are his FC record is NOT superior to either Permaul or the much maligned Warrican. Is he vastly superior to both of these? Putting him against Chase is apples and oranges. Chase is and should be a batsman but because of structural deficiencies in how we pick teams and how our actual teams have played we have ruined his career. You cannot bowl 30 overs in an innings in international cricket and then meaningfully bat at 4 and 5 and 6 within 2 and 3 hours of fielding. There is only one man name Sir Gary.

If the 3 frontlines are as we know relative non entities as international class spinners why would you pick any of them versus investing in Motie or any of the nextgen spinners?

In reply to Wally-1

Jimbo is the perfect metaphor for Wondies cricket at the moment.

In reply to SnoopDog

True. It’s no accident why West Indies are at the bottom of international cricket. No other international team would give Cornwall consideration…you just cannot take the field with only 10 capable fielders.