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Windies - Pace Bowlers Wanted!

 
XDFIX 2023-12-16 21:03:32 

Can't carry these pacers to World Cup!

 
Courtesy 2023-12-16 21:17:41 

In reply to XDFIX

big grinbig grinbig grin

 
XDFIX 2023-12-17 13:14:17 

In reply to Courtesy

Windies will never learn, keep doing the same thing and expect different result!

 
TanteMerle 2023-12-17 13:50:31 

Thomas for next year
S. Joseph for the future

Cupboard bare and selectors obsolete.

I say obsolete but I mean stupid.

 
Courtesy 2023-12-17 14:05:38 

In reply to XDFIX

It says so much, when our pacemen cannot bowl in the powerplay and have very slim chances winning a game "at the death" even when 20 something runs are required in the final over.

Anyone with a modicum of neuronal energy could have seen this coming.

We were just lucky in the second T20 that Holder bowled an excellent penultimate over...this is not the norm with his bowling.

This is one of two differences between the last 2 games.

...the resultant effect of not having control and thus bowling inconsistently. This is piss poor for any international T20 team and will not take us anywhere quickly - a major rehaul is needed like yesterday.

These shortcomings should have been identified a long time ago. I am not the least surprised that we cannot defend 220 runs...it happened in Zimbabwe but like every other cricket decision in the Caribbean we are slow to respond. Scientific mgt is certainly not our forte.

But as usual we lack the analytical cricketing skills to make seek alternative resources and make these much needed sound changes.

 
Windiesfan78 2023-12-17 14:11:17 

In reply to XDFIX

This is correct, take Joseph for example. What is the obession with banging the ball into the pitch? We need to get our players to bowl more yorkers and deliveries which our opponents will find difficult to get under to slog for 6s.

 
Courtesy 2023-12-17 14:14:03 

In reply to Windiesfan78

big grinbig grinbig grin

Why do you dislike Joseph?

 
Windiesfan78 2023-12-17 14:25:26 

In reply to Courtesy

I don't dislike Joseph, I just think that he is not living up to his potential which angers me. He is our fastest bowler and has all the tools to be better. He is still young and fit and should be learning his craft from Sir Curtly. He just needs to stop bowling these short pitched deliveries so often.

 
Courtesy 2023-12-17 14:28:26 

In reply to Windiesfan78

So do you think there is potential in Joseph that can be harnessed?

 
Windiesfan78 2023-12-17 14:36:19 

In reply to Courtesy

That is correct sir, at 27 he is still young enough to learn. He has to learn to be patient and bowl tighter lines. Every delivery cannot yield a wicket.

 
velo 2023-12-17 14:41:15 

In reply to Windiesfan78

Well then you going hate how someone of holders pace keeps bowling these full slow balls and gets lined up in game three

 
Courtesy 2023-12-17 14:44:24 

In reply to Windiesfan78

So after:

* eight years of test cricket with "no ball" problems in LO cricket;

* a woeful and declining 2023 season;

* working with Sir Curtly and numerous other coaches;

.is Joseph still worth the investment?

.............................

Btw, I am happy that you have provided an alternative viewpoint to the Oped.

 
Baje 2023-12-17 14:53:16 

We need two quality death bowlers for last 3 or 4 overs.
Who do we include between now and June....Thomas...Cottrell...Real McCoy...Keemo...
that slingy medium pacer from Trinidad...

 
Headley 2023-12-17 14:56:19 

In reply to Courtesy

Is it relevant that his career has been in 2 parts truncated by a lengthy injury?

 
Courtesy 2023-12-17 15:04:32 

In reply to Headley

What is relevant to my decision making is a consistent upward progression bar.

Any mgt worth his salt would have human resources evaluated (for injury or otherwise) and re-evaluated before he lands or continues with the job.

* Duties to be performed;

* Person specification to match job functions;

* Selection and recruitment;

* determine performance evaluation period;

* evaluation;

* re-evaluation.

The above mgt principles NEVER CHANGE.

 
Headley 2023-12-17 15:52:36 

In reply to Courtesy

Earth to Courtesy, "Please return soonest."

 
Medusa 2023-12-17 16:42:57 

In reply to XDFIX

It was 4 spinners not pacers who won the world cup in 2012 and 2016, two specialist spinners, badree and narine and two spin allrounders, samuels and gayle

 
WICFan 2023-12-17 17:07:41 

In reply to XDFIX

Perhaps the Headley-Weekes Series should be a multi-match T/20 Series after the CPL with domestic players only.

 
XDFIX 2023-12-17 17:28:13 

In reply to Courtesy

It appears as if our bowlers don’t think! It’s just run up and serve drops!

 
XDFIX 2023-12-17 17:33:18 

In reply to WICFan

We are weak in all formats, my view is if you’re a cricketer you should be able to play all formats!

I guess you’re seeking to hone the T20 skills with the suggested change!

That said, specialization has its place!

 
WICFan 2023-12-17 18:14:36 

In reply to XDFIX

Cottrell couldn't buy a wicket in the Regional Super50, McCoy and Om Smith are playing T/10s.

No idea if Keemo Paul is still injured. Oshane Thomas is probably next.

 
XDFIX 2023-12-17 18:38:08 

In reply to WICFan

I don’t think you’ll get much out of Thomas beyond pace, he’s not a thinking bowler!

 
WICFan 2023-12-17 20:20:20 

In reply to XDFIX

Yes, express pace without brains normally means the ball goes to the boundary quicker.

 
XDFIX 2023-12-18 23:07:11 

In reply to WICFan

Look for a 2-2 in the next match!

 
XDFIX 2023-12-19 21:20:04 

Runs trucks at large!

Batting carnage all the way to the end!