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I’m heading to the IPL’: Brian Lara blames
brians_da_best
2024-01-16 05:34:50
heading to the IPL’: Brian Lara blames franchise cricket
“I think we’ve got to, first of all, try to hold on to the young ones, the teenagers.
“We need to get them to understand what West Indies cricket means and how we can protect it.
That’s what Australia has done. Australia don’t just pay their cricketers more or England pays their cricketers more … they develop that sort of loyalty to the sport in their country and that’s what we have not done.
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openning
2024-01-16 05:44:52
In reply to brians_da_best
You have to be the one to lead.
You have a similar visit to Sir Frank.
brians_da_best
2024-01-16 05:55:10
Will be interesting to hear comments on this. Many lara fans have justified Pollard, Gayle and bravos decisions to to to IPL at the expense of representing the west indies
Onionman0
2024-01-16 06:31:54
In reply to brians_da_best
Best way to move forward....give youngsters multi-year contract....Give Athanaze, Joseph and other debutants 3 years contract.... with clause of playing IPL , CPL and one more league....this way , both side winners....players can earn & learn.... West Indies cricket also reap benefits... England has already done so...CWI should follow....
brians_da_best
2024-01-16 06:58:41
In reply to Onionman0
I agree. Let them okay CPL and one more league of their choice, with West Indies interests being paramount
Barry
2024-01-16 09:10:09
In reply to brians_da_best
Did you try to hold on to them? It’s like a man who beats his wife everytime he doesn’t make a century and then when a reporter picks it up…. You have to love and hold onto your wife not the reporter…
brians_da_best
2024-01-16 10:39:03
In reply to Barry
I’ll ignore your man wife analogy since you constantly bring up domestic violence in your analogies and I find that inappropriate
If CWI holding on to players means paying them what they get in leagues, that’s next to impossible, at least in the present moment.
Read what Lara said, there needs to be a sense of pride associated with representing the West Indies
doosra
2024-01-16 11:37:30
In reply to brians_da_best
according to vix and imusic
Bri didn't get the memo
Drapsey
2024-01-16 11:59:01
In reply to brians_da_best
The way I recall it, Lara retired from West Indies cricket to be part of that short-lived T20 Cricket League in India.
Sorry, I can't remember the name of the league, but it preceded the IPL.
imusic
2024-01-16 11:59:32
In reply to doosra
You not the one telling Hety to go eat him food and forget about WI?
Allyuh have a convenient kinda “loualty”
IPL was the devil fuh Allyuh up until Guyanese players start to get
Contracts.
Now we getting daily updates from
Allyuh on SA t20 league.
Hypocritical to the max
brians_da_best
2024-01-16 12:05:23
In reply to Drapsey
ICL. I don’t think Brian retired to play it, rather retired because he wanted to retire / wasn’t being retained as captain for the England series in June 2007. And the ICL happened around the same time and they signed him on for a few million dollars
Whatever it was the ICL turned out to be a terrible decision for him, since it wñcost him IPL millions and IPL superstardom that Sachin and Warne managed. Like brian, They were all superstars and very rich, but the IPL embellished that for them. Brian missed out big time
Jumpstart
2024-01-16 12:17:02
In reply to brians_da_best
We need to get them to understand what West Indies cricket means and how we can protect it.
That’s what Australia has done. Australia don’t just pay their cricketers more or England pays their cricketers more … they develop that sort of loyalty to the sport in their country and that’s what we have not done.
the IPL issue is solely the fault of CWI. when the first WI players started to get IPL contracts(gayle, bravo, sarwan, tiger and later pollard, narine and bharath), the reaction of CWI was open confrontation. in 2008 and 2009, the IPL didn't even coincide with the WI's home season and neither did it in 2010.
XDFIX
2024-01-16 12:23:44
In reply to Onionman0
Multi year contracts mean nothing if players decide to opt out!
camos
2024-01-16 12:59:28
Lara's legacy is in test!
brians_da_best
2024-01-16 13:09:11
In reply to camos
You can’t discount his 10k ODI runs. He was the ICC number 1 odi batsman for 4 or 5 years in a row in the 90s. Then during the second half of his career. He dropped himself down the order in ODIs and started focussing more on tests
brians_da_best
2024-01-16 13:10:38
Back to the thread. We clearly can’t pay salaries to match IPL money, but can we build pride for playing for the West Indies, so players stick on with the national team and only play leagues when no international cricket is on?
VIX
2024-01-16 13:47:14
In reply to brians_da_best
“We need to get them to understand what West Indies cricket means
A few generations grew up seeing the WI being utterly demolished in antiquated cricket formats.
They don't know what WI cricket "means" the way pensioners and retirees do.
Test cricket remains to them a quaint reminder of long gone days.
VIX
2024-01-16 13:49:06
In reply to doosra
two headlines on misinfo today:
West Indies face mission impossible amid future of Test cricket debate
India, Australia and England boards should do more for Test cricket
I feel dem get the memo!
Baje
2024-01-16 13:50:57
In reply to brians_da_best
Is that what Australia did...Aussies are well paid
Barry
2024-01-16 13:51:50
In reply to brians_da_best
I’ll ignore your man wife analogy since you constantly bring up domestic violence in your analogies and I find that inappropriate
It might be a weakness of Dotties- see…
Barry
2024-01-16 13:54:41
In reply to Drapsey
The way I recall it, Lara retired from West Indies cricket to be part of that short-lived T20 Cricket League in India
You don’t recall a Jamaican dawg running him out for spite and envy? And a Dottie pelter breaking his hand when he try to return?
ray
2024-01-16 13:56:57
Lemme see...I am a young man with talent, someone paying me big bucks for this talent....hmmmm...what do I do?
VIX
2024-01-16 14:01:06
In reply to ray
Appease the "purists"!!!
Chrissy
2024-01-16 14:11:08
In reply to brians_da_best
Our children are taught in school by their teachers that migration is a better option.
They see it when the teachers resign in the middle of a term.
Allyuh are a set of jokers.
The majority of our best or their children have already migrated.
It’s over. Neo-liberalism has destroyed the entire planet and poor ass regions like ours have no chance.
Our eat a food posse are only concerned about feeding themselves and most of their children are overseas.
They will assist in selling us out further.
When all that is preached is prosperity we are as dead as ducks near a shooting range.
doosra
2024-01-16 15:12:28
In reply to imusic
2 things before you throw another fit...
1. I was referring to yall calling dead on test cricket
2. I never had an issue with players making choices for themselves...i have repeated that over and over
my issue was players making all sorts of nonsensical excuses when they wanted to play t20 and wi cricket...allyuh never acknowledged that...players go and make your money...but don't come up with all sorts of excuses why you don't want wi cricket and behave bad when not selected...
SnoopDog
2024-01-16 15:36:59
In reply to doosra
2 things before you throw another fit.


iTito (and many other Titties) are still firmly under the delusion that the Tits are some kind of pioneers for match fixing lickit cricket.
Barry
2024-01-16 16:03:04
In reply to SnoopDog
But they are and you can’t take that away from them?
Barry
2024-01-16 16:06:25
In reply to Chrissy
Our eat a food posse are only concerned about feeding themselves and most of their children are overseas.
What is the Caribbean answer?
Brerzerk
2024-01-16 18:31:10
In reply to brians_da_best
Stop blaming Gayle, Pollard and Bravo. They all gave up good IPL money to rep WI! Until Mr. Hilaire unwisely tried to w?tether them to WI cricket and WI cricket only (offering contracts where they had to stay home and play local club cricket) not one of them up to then missed a single WI match for which they were picked; none!! Yuh spreading falsehoods.
birdseye
2024-01-16 18:40:20
I understand that money is important, but man the love of money will F_up everything, every time… it’s a lot more fun to watch those YouTube black and white of WI cricket of yester-year when money was not the primary reason to play. Playing the game for the sheer joy, enjoyment and pride in the diaspora you represent. But I guess as the Pete Seeger 1959 song says “To Everything There Is a Season"-
VIX
2024-01-16 18:52:01
In reply to birdseye
Dude you really believe past players would've chosen test cricket instead of the life-changing amounts earned in the T-20 leagues?
get real nah man.
birdseye
2024-01-16 19:21:01
In reply to VIX
I am not saying that at all, and I am not suggesting that today players should be monogamous – I am just giving my take on the mediocrity of current WI cricket….and then again, other countries’ teams are able to prosper well in the current cricket milieu. So the question becomes: if other teams can prosper, flourish in the new paradigm why aren’t WI players capable of same, I am postulating that the new found wealth alters focus, rather than talent depletion/dilution..
camos
2024-01-16 19:26:26
CWI is in the business of making money, they even incorporated in a tax free local, which is not a part of CWI, why should players not emulate that?
birdseye
2024-01-16 19:39:33
In reply to camos
CWI is in the business of making money, they even incorporated in a tax free local, which is not a part of CWI, why should players not emulate that?
Why do I get the feeling that a better product would produce better financial returns, or is that an outmoded concept?
Brerzerk
2024-01-16 20:17:03
They went to Packer. They played county. Did Hilaire ever paused once and think that trying to force big men to give up big bucks and play local club cricket instead was the near equivalent of Peter Short telling Sobers he can't go to Northants but stay in Bim and practice for next yrs. test series? Our ideas usually sound best to us and those who have sycophants. Did he ever really 'air it out' to HR and legal experts?
Barry
2024-01-16 20:50:30
In reply to birdseye
I understand that money is important, but man the love of money will F_up everything, every time…
so when they make elephant man beg to perform, it wasn't love of money?