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Fast bowler bowl with the intent grit and determination like this young man Shamar(Fidel Edwards to a lesser extent) we have had many very talented fast bowlers in the recent past but lac what it takes to fortify their talent, we see it right before our eyes, (in Alzarie Joseph bless with all the attributes but seems to lac that killer instinct or determination) is it because of an affluent life or
easy upbringing? not jugging, just asking

Injuries have derailed many up and coming fast bowlers.
Recent example is Jayden Seales who is currently recuperating from a recurring or new injury.
Al Jo has had many injuries as well

Workload management is also critical.
I am already reading Sham Jo is off to one of the T20 leagues

In reply to Narper

jerome taylor was another one

In reply to Narper

I hear what you saying about injuries, it is a factor, but even when these guys are fit and bowling I don't see the do or die effort from them, e.g. Jerome Taylor and AL JO they become despondent
again the killer instinct a fast bowler need is not there, certain type work half an effort is worst than not doing it

In reply to bird

Maybe Shamar was just lucky to avoid all the youth cricket. Alzarri was not so lucky.

In reply to Headley

Bang on!!!

Our setups do not nurture talent. Shemar is the one that got away.

We have more organized cricket than ever across all age groups, more formalized coaching, more coaching programs and academies, more grass root funding and yet…

In reply to mkcharles

Our setups nurture talent for Mickey Mouse lickit cricket.

In reply to bird

younger Roach was a beast on his day

In reply to bird

We need to find him a hunting partner. Quickly

But that being said, let's not forget Castro, Tayrol and Roach. They served well and should be remembered as such

In reply to Headley
Nailed it

In reply to mkcharles

so, what I hear you saying is that all these formalized coaching and the early programs are doing more bad than good, if that is so I think there is something to it, I have seen guys go to the academe
and loose their natural ability

In reply to Headley

Ravi Rampaul also suffered from overwork at the U19 level

In reply to Headley

You know, it was noted that Taylor was OVERBOWLED by the Jamaica U-19 set up. Led to WICB introduce limits to how much bowling the U-19 quicks could do. But there is something about the number of organized sports at youth level where a number of youngsters get burnt out. See some of the Champs T& F stars in Jamaica who NEVER make it as seniors. Seems there is something to not having them in these organized set ups ALL the time as they get OVERWORKED.

In reply to bird

True Story: over a course of almost 2 seasons a junior was taking wickets in big man cricket as he too was an untamed product of the village. Bowled at good pace but with a mixed action at delivery even though he bowled wonderfully beautiful outswingers. The junior national setup sent a SOS for this lad and he was entrusted in the hands of senior national coaches who immediately opined that his action was not “pure” enough. Later on after a loss of, confidence, form, reputation, and no wickets, phenom was sent back to his club team. He was a shadow of himself both in look and product never to take more than a handful or wickets. Thankfully his love for cricket allowed him over time to become a late middle order destroyer with the bat that was plenty feared across the league.

Jermaine lawson , Darren Powell sometimes

In reply to bird

Agree......Shamar hardly played F.C . .....that was blessing in disguise.....common thinking here is.....let the player play few red ball season....learn...then pick him up for West Indies....Chamer Holder , to my mind was one of the best youngsters.... totally destroyed by CWI and regional coaches.....Oshane is also one....he went to England A tour in 2018...performed admirably but cast away...

In reply to bird
So, I haven't been keeping up with WI cricket but what happened to Kemar? His pace is down to the mid 120 kph range? Injury, age?

In reply to bird

Perhaps we should just let them play instead of trying to engineer them. Engineering cricketers is the English approach anyway.

In reply to eXodus

openningg say castro was a friend pick......big wet steupps

In reply to DukeStreet

Roach lost his pace after shoulder injury, around 2014/2015 I think. While he came back as a more skilful bowler, pace was never up again.

In reply to Headley

hmmmmm, fair point. Most fast juniors eventually develop some injury soon after U19, not just West Indians. Pat Cummins also went through the same. James Pattinson. All those guys use to bowl rapid.

Sometimes competition breed success. Alzarri bowled a whole lot better in the 2nd test match. He was the enforcer of the team in the past. With Shamar now there bowling fast, he now knows he can easily go on the bench and I believe that may have played the part in him improving in that 2nd test. Joseph has been bowling too short for a while now.

Competition for places is the best way to get a world class team. Everyone inspires the next to do better. If Jayden Seales return from injury is as good as how he was before injury, then you'll start to see more of our fast bowlers giving a 100% and more.

In reply to jen

AlJo needs to learn how to put the ball in the good areas more consistently. He gets carried away with trying to bounce people and as you rightly said bowls far too short. And when he tries to pitch it up its mostly half volleys.

With his height Aljo could be a force to reckon with if he starts bowling the good areas. He certainly has the pace.

In reply to jen

very true,

In reply to Narper

I had some much hope for Ravi....He had so much potential in my opinion but ...somehow...fitness came in to play.

Ravi will always be one of the good ones that I feel should have had better returns