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In reply to Chrissy

She's a good cricket journalist and deep thinker

In reply to Brerzerk
Will soon get my copy - word is it gwin vex nuff peeps

In reply to Chrissy

Worrell was respected everywhere else in the Caribbean but Barbados?

Interesting

In reply to Chrissy & Brerzerk

Nice. Agreed, Vaneisa is a terrific writer.

In reply to imusic
Sadly that was true among the racist Bajan elites

In reply to imusic

Equally interesting militant Pan Africanist C.L.R. James (Black Jacobins) desperately wanted Frank Worrell to break the anti- apartheid boycott and play cricket in South Africa.

In reply to Chrissy

You can add privilege to it.
I love the Island, every time I arrive I kiss the ground.
When my dad died in 1960 I wanted to leave, leaving in 1970 Barbados was my POB, but not my home.
My siblings are all aware of my feelings, a close friend who returned after finishing his doctorate said to me and his brother, who also had a doctorate, we will never be successful on the Island, we don't know how to play the game.

In reply to Castled

I thought James did not want him to play against SA or to accept Captaincy of the W.I as Frankie was best his best years as a batsman and it would devalue his greatness, but I may be wrong on the assumption.

I read the Black Jacobins in a black study course , got an A , but the professor , a caribbean man never recorded the grade.

In reply to Castled

In reply to tc1

The first match the school Rediffusion was turned on during a class was the day Frank returned to bat being 197 not out.
JO Morris was our Head Master's name, we were told after prayers that the radio would be on.
Frank and Mr. Morris were close friends.
Some believe it was a lesson for us, as Mr Morris was different from our previous Head Master.
Everton Weekes could not play for Spartan, it was not only the White teams, but also who your parent was.

In reply to Castled

In reply to Castled

that actually does not surprise me tbh. CLR was very militant in his out look. I have a documentary at home where he was interviewed by Prof Ken Ramchand, our greatest literary critic. This was an interview in 82 or 83 and it was about the Black Jacobins. And if you read that book, CLR not only got into not only how toussaint and co won, but why. And the reason he said he wrote the book was because he was interested in Black history, where they did something, and weren't the subjects of actions by other people. Knowing CLR, I'm sure he wanted cricket relations with SA to be restored so the WI could go down there and beat them. And i am sure that desire only increased as the late 70s gave way to the 80s and the West Indies became the most iconic team in the history of the sport. Militants love confrontation

Ironically, many of the english writers , while criticizing the style of cricket Lloyd's team played, kept on presenting the south africa matter to the then TCCB and the ICC. And i strongly suspect that they felt the only white team that could challenge the WI would have been the SA of graeme pollock, barry richards, garth le roux, clive rice, vince van der bijl etc. The SA government in the 80s made a docu about the second WI rebel tour. CMJ was interviewed: Christopher Martin Jenkins at one of the "tests". in fact i strongly suspect SA would have been back if it weren't for the efforts of the WICBC, PCB and especially, especially the BCCI, who was the most powerful of the then smaller boards. I don't even think it mattered to them that pakistan caused the WI innumerable problems throughout the late 70s and the entirety of the 80s

In reply to openning
The sad truth bro.

In reply to tc1

Heard it on the Baksh interview. CLR very wrong to demand Worrell break apartheid boycott. Burham tried to lynch Sobers for breaking Rhodesia boycott. West Indians demanded the heads of the rebels led by Rowe including honorary white Colin Croft etc for Soth African tours. There can't be a law for the Medes and one for the Persians.

You're wrong on the captaincy. CLR campaigned hard on the alter of black power for Worrell to be captain. Its why it surprises to hear same CLR encouraged Worrell to go to racist South Africa.

[b]In reply to openning/ Chrissy[sy/b]

Bim is more of a class society, Spartan was a club for the elite from HC, Lodge and some Camerians. Herman Griffith was a Camerian but was not allowed to join the club and as a result of that action by the Spartan elite founded the Empire club which welcome players from all classes.

At one time, Maple club practiced elitism as their founding members were former Spartan members.

In reply to Castled

I saw the interview, and found it to be not informative on the man Frank Worrell was.
The only gossip she got, is asking Sir Everton about Worrell's drinking.
Worrell chooses Empire a poor club instead of Spartan, that was somewhat similar to the white clubs.
Speaking with my older brother today, he reminded me of several clubs where eliteness played an important role in who could join, he reminded me that YMPC was one of the clubs. Do you know why Wes Hall a product of the UOW chose Spartan?
I heard about Frank and Clyde refusing to play, unless Everton was part of the squad, the bastard dropped Everton, replacing him with one of their friends, Frank was the one who led the protess.

In reply to openning

The interview was erratic. Informative yet confusing. She generally was on point about Sir Frank. Did she know ten years before the 3W's became 'global stars' there were violent island wide riots in Barbados demanding better living conditions and wages for blacks. The 3W's in many ways were products of black rebellion.

The white elites and their black lapdogs wanted the status quo to remain. Frank Worrell was revered by majority blacks from the get go. So was Weekes and Walcott. Weekes was the most popular.

In reply to Castled

The black lapdogs were led by your now PM grandfather E.D. Mottley. "The colour conservative Bridgetown businessman, he was known for the practice of securing the vote of the working class city dwellers by generously donating food and money for votes" quoted Hilary Beckles.

Yes, Weekes was the most popular, Tom Clarke described every Bajan boy wanted to be Everton Weekes and copy his hairstyle of parting their hair in the middle.

In reply to Castled

This is true but the masses had no power