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Ranking WI top ten All-Rounders

 
Curtis 2024-03-24 17:03:49 

Some questionable rankings here.

 
Curtis 2024-03-24 17:16:00 

4 Trinis
2 Guyanese
1 Lucian
1 Yardie
3 Baje

 
camos 2024-03-24 17:20:38 

In reply to Curtis

I would find a spot for Gayle but he did a reasonable job!

 
BeatDball 2024-03-24 17:34:33 

Aint Collis King gets the Jewmaycan carrot cake?!



PS. Sir Gary, wasnt he more of a specialist batsman?

 
hubert 2024-03-24 19:59:58 

In reply to Curtis

Absolutely amazing.. I gotta wonder who are these people who come up with these
things .
The single greatest allround feat by a West Indies Test player who made a double ton,219 and took
a 5-for in the same Test is not here. Denis Atkinson.
Frank Worrell was an allrounder who opened the batting and bowling in the same Test too .
Bernard Julien deserves his props too and he had a couple Test tons
somethings that some on that list aint got and will never get.

This exercise is right up there with Many Jamaicans naming Edward Seaga as a Father of that Nation.
There ought to be a law to prevent some things being proffered.
I been on this MB too long.sad
Who is an allrounder ?

 
camos 2024-03-24 20:31:43 

In reply to hubert

Did not have Atkinson on my list but, Worrell, Lloyd and Gayle ahead of Sammy and Harper.

 
Curtis 2024-03-24 21:40:15 

In reply to hubert

You showing your pedigree there Hubert. That Atkinson did that , wasn't something that I knew either. Thanks.

 
Curtis 2024-03-24 21:45:42 

Some other notables in my head include Keith Boyce, Maurice Foster, even David Holford.

 
Castled 2024-03-25 03:13:31 

No way Scammy and Harper in front of Atkinson, Boyce, Holford, Worrell.

Scammy name cannot be in the same paragraph as the visionary Sir Frank Worrell.

All time Windwards X1 are regularly selected on this mb. Scammy never makes the final cut. How can he be a top 10 WI allrounder?

Scammy is a hard man fi dead.

 
openning 2024-03-25 06:15:10 

In reply to hubert

A sound batsman and a bowler of medium-pace offcutters, Denis Atkinson made his debut in India in 1948-49, and was a Test regular in the mid-1950s. He was captain for three Tests against Australia in 1954-55, in the absence of Jeff Stollmeyer, and later led West Indies to a series victory in New Zealand. His finest hour, though, came in the fourth Test of that Australian series. Facing a total of 668, West Indies collapsed and were 146 for 6 when Atkinson and Clairmonte Depeiaza came together. In more than a day the pair added 347 for the seventh wicket, a first-class record for 40 years and still the best in Tests. Atkinson contributed 219, his career-highest, and also took seven wickets in the match. On his sole tour of England in 1957 he began memorably, taking 10 for 62 in the first match at Worcester, but later he was overworked and a strained shoulder affected his performance.

Denis

 
imusic 2024-03-25 13:34:29 

In reply to hubert

The single greatest allround feat by a West Indies Test player who made a double ton,219 and took
a 5-for in the same Test is not here. Denis Atkinson.

I’m surprised you name Denis Atkinson as one of the top 10 all rounders from the WI, seemingly based on that one match where he had the best returns by any WI player.

His performance in that match was indeed commendable. But top 10 all rounders in the region?

He batted 35 times for WI and scored 922 runs averaging 31.74 and took 47 wickets in that time.

He averaged 20 with the bat in his other 34 innings.

Similarly, calling Sir Frank Worrell an all rounder seemingly because he also bowled a bit is a bit of a stretch.

In that case, Viv Richards, Larry Gomes, Clive Lloyd (who once opened the bowling for WI) hell……even Kraigg Brathwaite…..would then be considered all rounders.

Maybe the literal definition, but not the essence of the term.

Certainly not when you’re also classifying the likes of Gary Sobers, Bernard Julien, Learie Constantine etc as all rounders.

 
seaegg99 2024-03-25 13:38:44 

https://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1027587/the-man-who-could-do-everything

 
openning 2024-03-25 16:32:03 

In reply to imusic

You should take a timeout or focus solely on 20 overs cricket.
For fans like hubert and I, who have been watching cricket for six decades know about these players.
Denis Atkinson was one of Barbados' great medium pacers, anyone that have seen him will tell you that, that is a man who could bowl all day and hit a dime, over ninety percent of the time.
He bowled like the ball was tied to a cord.

 
seaegg99 2024-03-25 18:26:48 

B Julien and K Boyce should be on there. I would think they would be top selections in any short format form of the game now.

 
Raggs 2024-03-25 20:18:49 

In reply to seaegg99

Yes Sah ! Just about to write so, Keith Boyce and Bernard Julen must indeh.

 
camos 2024-03-25 21:20:24 

Collis King, Norbert Phillips !

 
imusic 2024-03-25 22:02:10 

In reply to openning

Great?

Steupes. Allyuh good yes.

Allyuh just inventing ting because it was nostalgic in yuh youth.

Next ting we will hear Collis King, Kevin Stoute, and Vanburn Holder were among the best allrounders the region has produced rolleyes

 
Raggs 2024-03-25 22:16:05 

If we talking sheer talent not stats then Richard Austin gets a top 10 finish.

 
openning 2024-03-25 23:14:24 

In reply to imusic

Bro, Dukes asked me why I don't include Seymour Nurse when I speak of West Indies batsman, my response is always, that he did not play enough test cricket to be recognized, but as you like reviewing stats after hearing the players name, check Seymour Macdonald Nurse stats, and compare it to the generation including any batsman between 2000-2024.
I would never rate Denis Atkinson I do not need to, as I listen to the guys who gave us their choice, including Clyde Walcott, Hooper, Sammy and others, the two dudes had to be drunk.

 
WestDem 2024-03-26 00:27:29 

Hooper number one Sobers number two… there were and/will always one Hooper!

 
openning 2024-03-26 02:57:45 

In reply to imusic

Denis Atkinson was one of Barbados' great medium pacers.
Barbados is one small Island.

 
tc1 2024-03-26 04:01:01 

In reply to openning

just saw it.

 
WIForever 2024-03-26 04:52:38 

Selecting Walcott....and leaving out Dujon. All-rounder is batting and bowling.

 
Curtis 2024-03-26 05:19:33 

Don't forget John Shepherd

 
imusic 2024-03-26 13:15:05 

In reply to Curtis

How many times did he play for West Indies?

 
openning 2024-03-26 13:33:36 

In reply to tc1

Thanks bro.
Barbados cricket dominance will return, our population is small, that's why we need every Barbadian youth to be involve in the sport, and want to represent Barbados.
Check this out.
Franklyn Stephenson Aces capture Under-15 title

 
tc1 2024-03-26 18:13:34 

In reply to openning

Some good u15 players coming thru.