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Maverick weighs in

I cant say that I disagree..I consider myself a connoisseur of all genres of music but modern day soca lacks creativity…”jump up, get something and wave over and over and over again”…no substance whatsoever

In reply to FanAttick
Modern day soca and modern day dance hall are both crap

In reply to Chrissy

Totally agree..modern day dancehall is utter crap…

my soca gold standard

Doh rock it so!

Dollar Wine

Perhaps there’s a different perspective.

People today want / need distraction from the current realities of living.

Inflation
War
Genocide
Blatant corruption
Drug and gang crisis
Crime way of control
The very real prospect of Trump being once again the leader of the free world
Etc Etc

All exacerbated by the power of Social Media and now the threat of AI

They want / need escape from all dat shit.

Inaneity in musical choice is as good an escape as any.

In reply to imusic

You can get all that but to me there has to be a message..it doesn’t have to be a serious message. But even a humorous message can lighten the mood and help you escape from the realities of life

In reply to imusic
Actually no- it’s canned music - the absence of genuine instruments and knowledge of music - canned commercial crap.

All those things existed in the past while we made beautiful music and wrote lyrics with meaning.
The deterioration in all spheres is palpable but but hey there are more billionaires while the masses can’t even get a decent education.

In reply to FanAttick

do you know when i first read your post i wanted to share a link to nani wine and a certain curry song lol

that's the standard for me

for me it's also the same for chutney

i grow up in the 80s and 90s on a certain flavor and what passes for chutney now definitely over my head...thank goodness for youtube I can still enjoy mih oldies

this generation is not about posterity, mostly....and as imusic seh a bit of it is really about dealing with the dailies...the days for meaning and contemplation are long overtaken by the daily grind, stress, etc

In reply to imusic

what became of Farmer Nappy and Kes...? They had some good tunes in 2019.

I thought they were gonna make Soca right again...!!

In reply to Chrissy

dis!!!

In reply to Elsie

Farmer Nappy still has great songs

Music evolves and people accustomed to something in their youth often resist that evolution.

There is a LOT of good music out there as far as I am concerned. Good soca music too.

You can’t tell me DNA or In the Center (by Farmer Nappy) would not be hits 25 years ago.

In reply to imusic

Yuh real jokey fur so!!!!!!

Seriously, it looks silly trying to prop up extremely low standards- today's "artiste" and their "DJ's" in the radio stations, are lazy, they have no sense of history, are unprincipled and will kill the art form. Unfortunately, those under 30, know very little about the glorious past.

In reply to imusic

Thanks...

Mine was a genuine question... Not rhetorical..

I have not been following up on the Soca.. Will check out the two Nappy tunes you mentioned...

In reply to FanAttick

Calypso is constantly positioned very slowly, brimming with outstanding storytelling. What you consider to be a flavor of music may not always appeal to others.
Calypsonians discussed societal issues and methods for elevating the nation while also offering commendation or censure to notable individuals in society.

Calypsonians would croon collectively about positively emerging from oppression, obtaining an education, and becoming productive members of society; in general, they would inspire citizens to better themselves and, ultimately, the nation.
As events progressed, the modus operandi eventually shifted.​ Soca contains less lyrical material than calypso.
The "older" generation would have justified their criticism of the calypsonian singers' crude lyrics and their failure to sing about positively rising from oppression, getting educated, and becoming productive members of society.

Soca, which is a musical genre derived from Calypso, is renowned for its exploration of diverse subjects that are significant to Trinbagonian society as well as regional and international concerns.
The "fate" lifestyle has inspired numerous Soca compositions. Soca music and the environment it represents serve as a critique of the prevailing mindset of contemporary Trinis.
In a direct manner, the "jump up and wave" lyrics exemplify our mentality.
Soca music has evolved into a genre that is exclusively appreciated at Carnival celebrations .
Artists from Soca are currently striving to create the most memorable party and road songs for Carnival.

Concurrently, they recount disparate narratives.

A discernible shift in the national mindset has occurred; foreign fashion, music, and ways of life have become increasingly alluring in comparison to our own, to the extent that they have nearly been assimilated as Trinbagonian.
Is it conceivable that individuals are emigrating to dominant countries, assimilating their way of life, and subsequently returning to Trinidad in an attempt to emulate their success?

This exemplifies what I refer to as the "copycat" mentality prevalent among Trinbagonians, in which we are content to tolerate mediocrity or lower as long as the majority is conforming.
I have never been able to identify with regional popular music, such as Soca or chutney.

Everyone is welcome in the land of festivity, Trini to the core.

In reply to sgtdjones

Dancehall is Reggae’s equivalent to Soca…Old school dancehall and old school soca combined great rhythms(that were fun to dance to) with great messaging…modern day dancehall and soca have lost the plot

In reply to FanAttick

I fully endorse...

In reply to FanAttick

You just OLD now bro

You listen to your music on 8 track?

In reply to FanAttick

Really?

Tiny Winey…..wine yuh bum bum
Bangalangalangalangalangalangalangalang
Bangalangalangalangalangalangalangalang
Wine miss winey. Don’t stop miss winey???


Ting a ling a ling…..school bell a ring….knife and fork a fight fi dumplin

Booyaka Booyaka???


That’s your great messaging??

In reply to FanAttick


The get something and wave no longer exists in the volume you think bruh. It is a tool used in live performances..but IMO your perception prevents you from even paying attention to the new soca out there.

I have my struggles with it too...but...it is def no more about just jump and wave.

You listen to songs like:

Savannah Grass by Kes
Happy Place - Lyrikal
Tons of Music from guys who can actually sings like Blaxx (RIP), Voice, Vghn
Some of the females like Destra, Patrice, Nadia Batson, Naila Blackman who all have really decent pipes.

Like all genres there is some crap out there too...but also lots of good music if you keep an open mind.

Get on youtube ot whatever is your fave music platform with a decent headset and you may realize that the genre may have passed you by..while you were hating on the 'jump and wave' phase.

That said..for live shows or a soca fete where people want to cut loose...the jump and wave has it place. Or any song that can get people to do what the artise requests.

Mr. Killa's 'Run Wid It' mek people root up whole fence and 'run wid it'.

Different strokes for different folks.

In reply to imusic

Fan pullin a classic my generation better than your generation ol fogey diatribe.

In reply to imusic

Do you know the story behind ting a ling?

In reply to FanAttick

Afro beat and trap are the licks today!

Crap I say it in my Trench Town lyrics here

In reply to imusic

Hammer meet nail.

In reply to Cheeks

Exactly

How you doin bro? Hope all is well with you and the family

In reply to FanAttick

I do bro

In reply to imusic

I here staying afloat bruh. Kids growing, work busy....had a moment of madness and went back to school. Sh!t taking a toll on me. Hopefully will be done by November this year. PHEW!!!

Hope all good on your end. Our bredrin gone full conservative or maybe more accurately, anti-lib in BVI bruh. . There MAY be a subtle difference.

In reply to FanAttick

Dis

In reply to Chrissy

You mekkin sport!!
Listen to this hot track!!!

In reply to Chrissy

How you arguing with someone named MUSIC? Yuh head good?

In reply to Larr Pullo

Come on Larr

You have all of Montano's hits...your favorite artist...

In reply to sgtdjones

Actually one time I was in East Africa and they were playing Machel's music, and watching them Ethiopian girls spin their waist to Machel gave me a new and fresh appreciation for the art form.

I had a dislike for rap and jump music including Reggaeton, my daughter reminded me every performer has their lane, and each lane should be respected.

a lot of music coming out of the caribbean is rubbish for a long time its basically music made for people to jump up and wine the waist they more interested in the beat than the lyrics or melody which are neither creative or memorable .after carnival is ended these songs are forgotten

Sweet for days
Baron - Sweet Soca Man

In reply to openning

Chune! Rediscovered that one recently.

Despite the deterioration of music across the region, this is what gives me hope.
An instant classic

In reply to Curtis

Baron Soca Classic Best of The Best MixDown Mix by djeasy

As someone who enjoys the dancefloor, these tunes get me going.