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on second thought: Dinanath Ramnarine

Jumpstart 4/17/24, 3:37:03 PM
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debut: 11/30/17
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Test numbers: 45 wickets @ 30.73 from 12 matches

Despite taking 45 wickets in 12 Tests, and being the leading wicket-taker in the recent Red Stripe Bowl tournament, Ramnarine has been left out in the cold since February 2002, his last Test, against Pakistan. In that series, he and Carl Hooper, captain at the time, had an on-field disagreement, and their relationship became worse last year when Ramnarine, in his role as president of the WIPA, changed the system of sharing sponsorship prize money among players from seniority to equality.
It was a move Hooper didn't agree with, but even after Brian Lara replaced Hooper as captain, Ramnarine still couldn't get back in the team. "I haven't been chosen for the West Indies for the last two years and I don't think it was because of my performances on the cricket field," he said. "I believe the whole Caribbean knew what was taking place but everyone basically allowed it to happen."
He added: "At the end of the day, you have to decide what it is you want to accomplish. I've been basically playing cricket, day in, day out, for the past two years and not been able to get a chance." He also inisisted that it was pointless to continue playing for Trinidad and Tobago with no prospect of playing international cricket. He said, "It's better someone else has a chance."


Dinas was the first soon to be followed by Gayle, Sarwan, Bravo(s), Pollard in favor of boy scouts

to all the dudes blaming the big 3 for the mess that is WI cricket, our troubles started long before that
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PalsofMine 4/17/24, 3:44:05 PM
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Dinas was probably our best leg spinner. I rate him above Bishoo.
Jumpstart 4/17/24, 3:46:19 PM
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In reply to PalsofMine

certainly
tc1 4/17/24, 5:30:51 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Are you not Dinas.
Walco 4/17/24, 5:42:54 PM
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In reply to tc1

Why are you asking rhetorical questions tc? smile
openning 4/17/24, 5:48:16 PM
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In reply to Walco

He told me he is not Dinas, that's why I am waiting to hear from him if he was a failure like Roston Chase.
Jumpstart 4/17/24, 6:20:27 PM
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In reply to openning

You really trying to compare an actual skilled spinner who only averages 30, with a bad wannabe who averages 46
imusic 4/17/24, 6:49:16 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Dem baje have always been boleface with dey duplicity.

Jes accept dem fuh what they are big grin
sgtdjones 4/17/24, 6:55:46 PM
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In reply to Walco

Jumpy is a student at University a future Civil Engineer...
He is not Dinas.

Dinas told me why he was no longer selected and the individuals involved, I would not betray his confidence
by giving details. Its not ethical to do so. I have asked him to save all his records of being WIPA President
and some day his kids or him would compose a book, so many interesting things he told me about individuals
at the WICB and various Governments....it would be an amazing book...

Dinas you have all the facts and paperwork write that darn book....cool
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Walco 4/17/24, 7:21:54 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

Jumpy-Not-Dinas likes to cry a river. That book would be a riveting non-read for me smile Next thing you will tell me is that Overthrow is not Badders rolleyes
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Jumpstart 4/17/24, 7:31:12 PM
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In reply to Walco

anything to do with trade unionism or workers' rights, a bajan would never be interested in
sgtdjones 4/17/24, 7:48:31 PM
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In reply to Walco

If you only knew what was noted and said at some of those WICB meetings and with Sir Ramphal at his home
would be an eye opener...et al

again Jumpy is not Dinas...cool

who is badders?shock
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sgtdjones 4/17/24, 7:51:08 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Be easy on Walco....he is just another lawyer...but more intelligent than sodden.

razzrazz
Brerzerk 4/17/24, 8:04:57 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

lollol Dem men gwine remin' yuh that Roston The Great under the tutelage of Saqqui The Great locked up one end for a whole day and bowled WI to 'victry'
pon 'im ownna home grung tekking mo' n ten in di watch. 'Ave mannas to demlollollol All clock right eff is even two time fi di day yuh hear.
Jumpstart 4/17/24, 8:07:45 PM
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In reply to Brerzerk

lol yeah.
Walco 4/17/24, 8:43:19 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Well you are definitely correct with respect to this bajan. My motto is "power to management and oppression to all workers." So you would never find me picking up a chair to toss at an adversary during a meeting smile
tc1 4/17/24, 11:08:00 PM
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In reply to Walco

lol
sgtdjones 4/18/24, 2:01:39 AM
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In reply to Walco

As an officer of the court...
So you would never find me picking up a chair to toss at an adversary during a meeting smile


The attached is hearsay evidence, not admissible in any Court.cool
Curtis 4/18/24, 12:33:08 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

anything to do with trade unionism or workers' rights, a bajan would never be interested in


That's a yorker!

Yet they did boycott for, was it the non-pick of Cummings?

There was at least 25 people at that protest
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Curtis 4/18/24, 12:36:31 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

I wonder what that on-field disagreement with Hooper was about, and if that played any part in selection after.
sgtdjones 4/18/24, 3:47:44 PM
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In reply to Curtis

That's a yorker!


cool
Jumpstart 4/18/24, 9:34:04 PM
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In reply to Curtis

part of it im sure but he wasn't recalled when lara got the captaincy......although i understand that lara didn't always get the squad he wanted(the 1999 saga, where he was forced to captain a team where 3 players featured in a combined 8 tests;2004 with Viv, lara scratched adam sanford's name from the team who the chairman of selectors wanted to play even though dillon was widely viewed as the more effective bowler). i say this in light of the fact that ramnarine and lara do not seem to have any animosity surrounding their relationship.

the viv lara spat
West Indies' captain Brian Lara performed an extraordinary about-turn just seconds before the toss, when it appears that he unilaterally reinstated the fast bowler Mervyn Dillon to the starting XI even though the chairman of selectors, Sir Viv Richards, had insisted on his omission.
Dillon had looked clearly the most effective bowler in the first two Tests, which West Indies lost heavily, but Richards imposed his considerable presence and overruled Lara, who had wanted Dillon, a fellow Trinidadian, retained for the third Test at Cape Town. Richards, according to West Indian sources, has long felt that Dillon's figures were inadequate for a man of his experience and ability, and Viv also prefers a bowler to play with more obvious passion and commitment than the laid-back Dillon.

i read the article and it fails to mention, but which i will, that Adam Sanford had been playing for the leeward islands since 2002
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imusic 4/19/24, 12:48:54 AM
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Viv kept Lara out the WI team for a long time in favour of………drumroll……

Keith “Binary” Arthurton