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Move on from the Narine generation

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Besar 4/18/24, 9:43:08 AM
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They have grown too big for West indies cricket.
granite 4/18/24, 12:35:20 PM
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In reply to Besar

Yuh got that wrong mate,it's the opposite way around West Indies cricket got too big and the bosses feel and act just like some politicians.Narine is still a most capable cricketer and the most resilient person I have seen,he is still capable of being a winner,and is not too old for 4 overs,you must know about his batting need i say more.
Emir 4/18/24, 12:39:26 PM
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In reply to granite

Yuh got that wrong mate,it's the opposite way around West Indies cricket got too big and the bosses feel and act just like some politicians


Exactly Bro.

And the reason the administrators get away with bad management, is because of people like the lead poster who unfortunately are still trapped in the massa type governance structure.

Had it been left to WI administrators, Narine's career would have been over years ago. Conversely, if Bumrah or Murali were West Indians, their career would have been done and dusted before they could have played 10 matches.
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SnoopDog 4/18/24, 2:46:38 PM
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In reply to Besar

Thankfully for Narine's sake he's smarter than the average Tit and knows better than show up to a real cricket match at international level.
conman 4/18/24, 2:49:31 PM
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what role does narine play in the teams he plays for usually?
Besar 4/18/24, 3:55:16 PM
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A few years from now, right here on this forum, the WICB would be accused of killing the test career of Lewis, Hetimier, Pooran and others. They just have to make the accusations public, and they would get loud chorus singers right here. Anyone, who choses to see it otherwise would be deemed colonial.
Walco 4/18/24, 4:48:37 PM
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If I were Narine, I would stay far away from international cricket. Why jeopardize the millions he can make playing IPL and other league cricket during the next few years? His IPL performances this year have increased his contract negotiation leverage.
Jumpstart 4/18/24, 5:54:00 PM
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In reply to Walco
narine can make the team as a batsman so that threat rings extremely hollow. Also, narine has been called only once in international cricket, and he was cleared upon investigation. the three times he had to remodel his action happened twice in the IPL and once in the PSL.
Jumpstart 4/18/24, 5:54:38 PM
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A few years from now, right here on this forum, the WICB would be accused of killing the test career of Lewis, Hetimier, Pooran and others. They just have to make the accusations public, and they would get loud chorus singers right here. Anyone, who choses to see it otherwise would be deemed colonial.

WI may not be even playing test cricket in a few years time.
Jumpstart 4/18/24, 6:01:23 PM
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In reply to granite

Yuh got that wrong mate,it's the opposite way around West Indies cricket got too big and the bosses feel and act just like some politicians.Narine is still a most capable cricketer and the most resilient person I have seen,he is still capable of being a winner,and is not too old for 4 overs,you must know about his batting need i say more.

ent viv, the greatest batsman of the 70s,80s and 90s had asked the WICBC to get to play in the world cup in 1992 as his swansong, asked that Desmond Haynes be appointed his successor among other things? ent none of those tiny requests were granted? The WICB/WICBC was the least professional, archaic, insipid, recalcitrant and combative(with everybody except England and Australia). The reason we've seen an improvement in results is because there has been an improvement in management. Skerrit Swallow and the TTCB and the JCA(both of who played the most pivotal role in asking for a secret ballot at the CWI elections and thus we were able to rid ourselves of the big idiot) need to be commended and awarded by CARICOM for that
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Walco 4/18/24, 6:27:41 PM
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Narine cannot make my team as a batsman boss. They have been using him as an opener for years with relatively meagre success until this year. In fact, most teams stopped with the opener experiment a few years ago. So Narine would have to do a lot more this IPL to make my team solely as a batsman. He would make my team solely as a bowler though, but then there is the issue of pelting.

Regarding his bowling action, Narine has reached the stage where he can bowl and pass any tests at an ICC accredited testing facility. But he is less effective when he bowls with a legal action, so he sometimes reverts to pelting when the pressure is ramped up. By the way, Narine's action was questioned by the umpires a few years ago during the CPL and he missed some games.

CPL
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granite 4/18/24, 6:56:05 PM
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In reply to Walco

Used as an opener for years,you make it sound as if he has opened about 30 times,he was used a few times as a pinch hitter,it succeeded less times than it failed,Saying he was used as an opener for years gives the wrong impression.
Kay 4/18/24, 7:06:43 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart
narine can make the team as a batsman

Based on what ..... club cricket runs in the IPL?
Emir 4/18/24, 7:07:25 PM
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Word
Jumpstart 4/18/24, 7:11:44 PM
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based on the highest metric available. which is the ipl. is not pick wick and wanderers in that tournament
Jumpstart 4/18/24, 7:13:18 PM
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Regarding his bowling action, Narine has reached the stage where he can bowl and pass any tests at an ICC accredited testing facility. But he is less effective when he bowls with a legal action, so he sometimes reverts to pelting when the pressure is ramped up. By the way, Narine's action was questioned by the umpires a few years ago during the CPL and he missed some games.

And? he is more effective than any spinner available to the west indies right now, save possibly motie. he's even more effective than hosein who has been having a very decent season. he does not take as many wickets i agree, his economy rate has not changed at all, if so very little. and none of them bat like narine
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imusic 4/18/24, 8:26:53 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Walco’s pick for opener is Kyle Mayers.

Ask anthonyp about Kyle Mayers cool
Walco 4/18/24, 8:56:51 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart
Narine's more effective than any spinner we have if he's allowed to pelt, but both Hosein and Motie are better than Narine if he has to bowl with a legal action.
Walco 4/18/24, 9:00:56 PM
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In reply to imusic

Kyle Mayers was dropped and deservedly so. And you would get no complaint from me if he is left out of the World Cup squad. Do you agree with Jumpy that Narine merits a T20 World Cup pick solely as a batsman?
Jumpstart 4/18/24, 9:15:08 PM
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In reply to Walco

narine has not been called and asked to change his action since 2018(he was called in 2020 an cleared upon further investigation by the panel). motie has only eclipsed narine in the wickets column once since e started playing in the CPL in 2021. Ey allyuh bajans before allyuh start an argument, at least consult the stats, perpetually on this board, embarrassing yourselves with ignorance that can be simply corrected by clicking a button
Walco 4/18/24, 11:31:21 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Of course he will have better stats if he is allowed to pelt with impunity while others bowl. Apparently you think he is not pelting unless he is called. But those of us not blinded by the red, white and black can see it clear as day.

This is Why Narine Should Stay Away from International Cricket for his Own Good
Emir 4/19/24, 12:45:21 AM
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Wow, so you don't see Narine as one of your own? You are willing to accept the foreigner's view on him? Although his action was cleared?

This is call crab in a barrel and this is why others get ahead of us, do you see the Aussies and Kiwis for example pulling down their own.
imusic 4/19/24, 12:51:34 AM
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In reply to Walco

Narine has retired from international cricket.

All this talk about selecting him is moot.

That said, if he were eligible to play, even at his age now, he would be one of the first names on the starting XI…….despite his liability in the field
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imusic 4/19/24, 12:54:04 AM
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Wow, so you don't see Narine as one of your own

You think the bench at Grantley Adams was happenstance?

Come on man. Don’t be naive.
Castled 4/19/24, 1:00:48 AM
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Sunil Narine and Scammy are the luckiest sods to play international cricket. They both are wildly rich despite serious questions of pelting by Narine and Scammy's lack of cricket talent .

Recently Simon Dhoull the celebrated New Zealand commentator stated Narine had returned to pelting. Are tit apologists granite, jumpstart, music man better positioned than Dhoull to determine if Narine pelting? Dont think so. Narine made right decision to watch the World Cup on tv.
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