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Move on from the Narine generation
In reply to Besar
Yuh got that wrong mate,it's the opposite way around West Indies cricket got too big and the bosses feel and act just like some politicians.Narine is still a most capable cricketer and the most resilient person I have seen,he is still capable of being a winner,and is not too old for 4 overs,you must know about his batting need i say more.
In reply to granite
Exactly Bro.
And the reason the administrators get away with bad management, is because of people like the lead poster who unfortunately are still trapped in the massa type governance structure.
Had it been left to WI administrators, Narine's career would have been over years ago. Conversely, if Bumrah or Murali were West Indians, their career would have been done and dusted before they could have played 10 matches.
In reply to Besar
Thankfully for Narine's sake he's smarter than the average Tit and knows better than show up to a real cricket match at international level.
what role does narine play in the teams he plays for usually?
A few years from now, right here on this forum, the WICB would be accused of killing the test career of Lewis, Hetimier, Pooran and others. They just have to make the accusations public, and they would get loud chorus singers right here. Anyone, who choses to see it otherwise would be deemed colonial.
In reply to SnoopDog
If I were Narine, I would stay far away from international cricket. Why jeopardize the millions he can make playing IPL and other league cricket during the next few years? His IPL performances this year have increased his contract negotiation leverage.
In reply to Walco
narine can make the team as a batsman so that threat rings extremely hollow. Also, narine has been called only once in international cricket, and he was cleared upon investigation. the three times he had to remodel his action happened twice in the IPL and once in the PSL.
In reply to Besar
WI may not be even playing test cricket in a few years time.
In reply to granite
ent viv, the greatest batsman of the 70s,80s and 90s had asked the WICBC to get to play in the world cup in 1992 as his swansong, asked that Desmond Haynes be appointed his successor among other things? ent none of those tiny requests were granted? The WICB/WICBC was the least professional, archaic, insipid, recalcitrant and combative(with everybody except England and Australia). The reason we've seen an improvement in results is because there has been an improvement in management. Skerrit Swallow and the TTCB and the JCA(both of who played the most pivotal role in asking for a secret ballot at the CWI elections and thus we were able to rid ourselves of the big idiot) need to be commended and awarded by CARICOM for that
In reply to Jumpstart
Narine cannot make my team as a batsman boss. They have been using him as an opener for years with relatively meagre success until this year. In fact, most teams stopped with the opener experiment a few years ago. So Narine would have to do a lot more this IPL to make my team solely as a batsman. He would make my team solely as a bowler though, but then there is the issue of pelting.
Regarding his bowling action, Narine has reached the stage where he can bowl and pass any tests at an ICC accredited testing facility. But he is less effective when he bowls with a legal action, so he sometimes reverts to pelting when the pressure is ramped up. By the way, Narine's action was questioned by the umpires a few years ago during the CPL and he missed some games.
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In reply to Walco
Used as an opener for years,you make it sound as if he has opened about 30 times,he was used a few times as a pinch hitter,it succeeded less times than it failed,Saying he was used as an opener for years gives the wrong impression.
In reply to Jumpstart
Based on what ..... club cricket runs in the IPL?
In reply to Jumpstart
Word
In reply to Kay
based on the highest metric available. which is the ipl. is not pick wick and wanderers in that tournament
In reply to Walco
And? he is more effective than any spinner available to the west indies right now, save possibly motie. he's even more effective than hosein who has been having a very decent season. he does not take as many wickets i agree, his economy rate has not changed at all, if so very little. and none of them bat like narine
In reply to Jumpstart
Walco’s pick for opener is Kyle Mayers.
Ask anthonyp about Kyle Mayers
In reply to Jumpstart
Narine's more effective than any spinner we have if he's allowed to pelt, but both Hosein and Motie are better than Narine if he has to bowl with a legal action.
In reply to imusic
Kyle Mayers was dropped and deservedly so. And you would get no complaint from me if he is left out of the World Cup squad. Do you agree with Jumpy that Narine merits a T20 World Cup pick solely as a batsman?
In reply to Walco
narine has not been called and asked to change his action since 2018(he was called in 2020 an cleared upon further investigation by the panel). motie has only eclipsed narine in the wickets column once since e started playing in the CPL in 2021. Ey allyuh bajans before allyuh start an argument, at least consult the stats, perpetually on this board, embarrassing yourselves with ignorance that can be simply corrected by clicking a button
In reply to Jumpstart
Of course he will have better stats if he is allowed to pelt with impunity while others bowl. Apparently you think he is not pelting unless he is called. But those of us not blinded by the red, white and black can see it clear as day.
This is Why Narine Should Stay Away from International Cricket for his Own Good
In reply to Walco
In reply to Walco
Wow, so you don't see Narine as one of your own? You are willing to accept the foreigner's view on him? Although his action was cleared?
This is call crab in a barrel and this is why others get ahead of us, do you see the Aussies and Kiwis for example pulling down their own.
In reply to Walco
Narine has retired from international cricket.
All this talk about selecting him is moot.
That said, if he were eligible to play, even at his age now, he would be one of the first names on the starting XI…….despite his liability in the field
In reply to Emir
You think the bench at Grantley Adams was happenstance?
Come on man. Don’t be naive.
Sunil Narine and Scammy are the luckiest sods to play international cricket. They both are wildly rich despite serious questions of pelting by Narine and Scammy's lack of cricket talent .
Recently Simon Dhoull the celebrated New Zealand commentator stated Narine had returned to pelting. Are tit apologists granite, jumpstart, music man better positioned than Dhoull to determine if Narine pelting? Dont think so. Narine made right decision to watch the World Cup on tv.
In reply to Emir
Unlike you, I have Narine's interests at heart when I say he should stay from International cricket. And what foreigner's view am I accepting? I do not speak or understand the language in that video, but my lying eyes tell me that the delivery to Kohli involved well over 15 degrees of straightening. In other words, Narine pelt out Kohli. Do you think India, Australia and England will just sit back and allow him to do that to their players in the T20 World Cup?
In reply to imusic
He would be one of the first names on my team as well. But you did not answer my question.
In reply to Emir
homie, you remember in a Caribbean t20 game, after the red force had just put another pounding on a typically terrible bajan side, a bajan player was asked about the runout of a mankad of dwayne bravo that dwayne smith did, when the game was already finished as a contest and tino and he others had started to descend into poor behavior(may have been a response to picong by pollard tbh). anyways the commie asked the player about the incident and described bravo as a west indian compatriot. the player said that bravo is not his compatriot. bajans feel they're above wi cricket based on a glorious past that disappeared after Maco's debut, more than 40 years ago
In reply to Walco
you seeing a spot that can be occupied by a bajan or its a bajan he'll replace
In reply to Jumpstart
you wish the tits had a bowler like Malco
In reply to tc1
i don't compartmentalize west indies cricket into islands like bajans hoss. a bowler like maco, regardless of the team he represents regionally, is great for WI cricket
In reply to Castled
Yep, you got your massa validation.
In reply to Jumpstart
Very disappointing that poster WALCO can go to the insular gutter, I thought differently of him.
In reply to Jumpstart
So says the person who thinks Narine should be picked solely as a batsman



In reply to Walco
Why the insularity?
In reply to Emir
How am I insular? I already said I would pick Narine for the T20 WC if he made himself available. But I'm trying to explain why he will not and should not make himself available.
There is a CPL fantasy league on this site that is run by Nick2020 every year, and I always pick Narine on my team because I know what he can do on a cricket field. Two bajans have been called for pelting in recent years--Kraigg and Reifer. And yuh know what? I fully expect that they both have bountiful harvests during mango season
In reply to Jumpstart
Was there ever an improvement as you stated? Also, as I recalled, the WICBC at the time of selecting a new captain chose Richie Richardson, who by then had established himself in the team as an excellent batsman. The rational was that Richardson was much younger that Desmond Haynes, so he offered a long term solution. This was explained to the public by the Board, so why up to this day people cannot accept that? To me, it was a reasonable explanation. Off course, Richardson turned out not to be the best captain, but the rational was a good one. I am certain that this is the same consideration the present administration applied when they selected Hayley Matthews over Diandra Dottin and Stephanie Taylor. So far, this seems to be working. by the way, why should Viv Richards decide who his successor should be?
In reply to Besar
https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/cricket/ipl-is-the-enigmatic-sunil-narine-back-to-chucking-again
‘’He knows that’s not a problem for him so he’s probably gone back a little bit to the old action in some way, shape or form. He’s actually getting more purchase. He was one of the few that actually got a little bit of assistance out of the track tonight,” Doull said.
Those who have followed the 35-year-old Trinidadian’s career are well aware of his travails with his actions - which caused him to miss the 2014 Champions League T20 final. He was barred from bowling in international cricket one year later before he received clearance to bowl in all domestic and international cricket formats in 2016 after a correction programme supported by the KKR management.
However, Narine was again called out for his bowling action in the Pakistan Super League in 2018 and then in the middle of the Indian Premier League in 2020. He changed his bowling motion after being cleared shortly after on both occasions.
Now very much a journeyman in franchise cricket, Narine last played for the West Indies in 2019 and announced his international retirement last year. It remains to be seen how Gambhir, now the mentor and fiercely protective of his players, tackles a ticklish problem!
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