debut: 8/30/23
228 runs
Is he a West Indian great? No!!!
He is a overhyped league player.
Has done nothing for West Indies cricket.
He is a overhyped league player.
Has done nothing for West Indies cricket.
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Some here referencing Dwayne Bravo..
debut: 2/16/17
35,163 runs
In reply to Jumpstart
whatever makes you sleep at night sir
Speed100
His speed is under 100....
His speed is under 100....
debut: 8/30/23
228 runs
Jumpstart and you probably have a picture of Bravo in your room by your bedside
debut: 2/22/04
7,768 runs
Bravo will go down in history as a T20 Great.
He had the potential to be a West Indies great,
but his career was shorten by the 'Big Idiot' regime.
When speaking of Greats, we have to categorize.
Test
ODI
T20I
1st Class
List A
T20
All different categories, although some overlap.
As tests are also 1st class,
T20I are T20's,
and ODI are List A.
In my books, Bravo is a T20 Great.
He is also one of the greatest fielders as well.
He had the potential to be a West Indies great,
but his career was shorten by the 'Big Idiot' regime.
When speaking of Greats, we have to categorize.
Test
ODI
T20I
1st Class
List A
T20
All different categories, although some overlap.
As tests are also 1st class,
T20I are T20's,
and ODI are List A.
In my books, Bravo is a T20 Great.
He is also one of the greatest fielders as well.
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debut: 11/14/02
192,626 runs
In reply to Speed100
Not overhyped at all- a nice guy with loads of cricket sense and ability in all departments. He has won a matches for us.
I have a lot of time for Dwayne
Not overhyped at all- a nice guy with loads of cricket sense and ability in all departments. He has won a matches for us.
I have a lot of time for Dwayne
debut: 6/12/04
17,499 runs
In reply to TanteMerle
If your conclusion is that DJ is great, where you see Jason?
If your conclusion is that DJ is great, where you see Jason?
debut: 2/22/04
7,768 runs
Jason is par/average at this time.
He was on tract to be a great (Test),
bowling, batting and fielding (especially catching)
but lost the plot when he loss the captaincee.
Although he cam make a comeback, time is running out,
especially with less than tests annually.
Sorry to say, but at this time, Holder is not a great in any format.
He was on tract to be a great (Test),
bowling, batting and fielding (especially catching)
but lost the plot when he loss the captaincee.
Although he cam make a comeback, time is running out,
especially with less than tests annually.
Sorry to say, but at this time, Holder is not a great in any format.
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debut: 6/12/04
17,499 runs
In reply to TanteMerle
JHo test record at this stage is ahead of the "great DJ" and his ODI is not too far behind the great Bravo as a ODI player.
As much as you are touting Bravo as a great in the T20 format his performance does not measure up as being 'great' .
In conclusion JHo is a better test player than DJ, while DJ is a better ODI player
JHo test record at this stage is ahead of the "great DJ" and his ODI is not too far behind the great Bravo as a ODI player.
As much as you are touting Bravo as a great in the T20 format his performance does not measure up as being 'great' .
In conclusion JHo is a better test player than DJ, while DJ is a better ODI player
debut: 8/30/23
228 runs
Even if Jason numbers are not the best he still greater than that greedy one.
Jason holder deserves his flowers he has given his prime time to West Indies cricket and the Caribbean people when the other choose to entertain the Indian and sell us out ..
Jason holder deserves his flowers he has given his prime time to West Indies cricket and the Caribbean people when the other choose to entertain the Indian and sell us out ..
debut: 8/30/23
228 runs
In reply to TanteMerle
Remind me 5 match winning performances in t20 for West Indies for the great bravo?
Just a cheerleader.
How the song with five words go again?
Remind me 5 match winning performances in t20 for West Indies for the great bravo?
Just a cheerleader.
How the song with five words go again?
debut: 8/21/22
926 runs
In reply to Speed100
Gospel truth bruh. The tits cant handle the truth.
Jason holder deserves his flowers he has given his prime time to West Indies cricket and the Caribbean people when the other choose to entertain the Indian and sell us out ..
Gospel truth bruh. The tits cant handle the truth.
debut: 11/13/02
43,900 runs
In reply to tc1
BigB role in T20 was as a finisher he would always bowl the maximum overs, his batting went south because he was not a Power hitter.
Pollard and others perform better in a league than when selected for the West Indies.
My take is, that they share the same role with 3-4 over players, you usually see 8 overs bowled by several bowlers.
Andre Russell can finish his career strong, his role is now to bat up the order and bowl the maximum number of overs.
He no longer shares the bits and Pieces role with others.
Selection for CWI T20 was always to select four players for the same role.
Carlos Brathwaite
Sammy
Pollard
Russell
Now you have Odeane Smith, the captain and company.
BigB role in T20 was as a finisher he would always bowl the maximum overs, his batting went south because he was not a Power hitter.
Pollard and others perform better in a league than when selected for the West Indies.
My take is, that they share the same role with 3-4 over players, you usually see 8 overs bowled by several bowlers.
Andre Russell can finish his career strong, his role is now to bat up the order and bowl the maximum number of overs.
He no longer shares the bits and Pieces role with others.
Selection for CWI T20 was always to select four players for the same role.
Carlos Brathwaite
Sammy
Pollard
Russell
Now you have Odeane Smith, the captain and company.
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debut: 6/12/04
17,499 runs
In reply to Castled
Tante is my hommie from St George, but 'dancing Harry' the show pony seems to prance his puniness over him.
Tante is my hommie from St George, but 'dancing Harry' the show pony seems to prance his puniness over him.
debut: 6/12/04
17,499 runs
In reply to openning
My argument is that Show pony cannot be great in test nor ODI with his record, his best format may be theT20 format and his record is not stellar at the international level.
As you said he was use as a finisher in league cricket where he was required to bat maybe 6 balls per game.
My argument is that Show pony cannot be great in test nor ODI with his record, his best format may be theT20 format and his record is not stellar at the international level.
As you said he was use as a finisher in league cricket where he was required to bat maybe 6 balls per game.
debut: 11/13/02
43,900 runs
In reply to tc1
If the West Indies were a country, very few T20 players would be in the conversation.
The majority of them would have to compete for selection.
Dwayne Bravo started his career as an allrounder, he then mouthed into a four overs specialist, and his batting was no way to be seen.
If the West Indies were a country, very few T20 players would be in the conversation.
The majority of them would have to compete for selection.
Dwayne Bravo started his career as an allrounder, he then mouthed into a four overs specialist, and his batting was no way to be seen.
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debut: 11/13/02
43,900 runs
In reply to tc1
Jofra is getting ready for the T20 WC, he is playing for Wildeys, batting up the order and bowling a couple of overs.
He hit a batsman last weekend.
When last did Kemar play local cricket in Bim, he has been going to tournaments without playing competitive cricket.
Jofra is getting ready for the T20 WC, he is playing for Wildeys, batting up the order and bowling a couple of overs.
He hit a batsman last weekend.
When last did Kemar play local cricket in Bim, he has been going to tournaments without playing competitive cricket.
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debut: 11/30/17
9,385 runs
In reply to openning
I know you’re a person totally ignorant of statistics(like when you said Kraigg brathwaite had the most centuries since BCL) but Bravo has as many centuries as Jason Holder in about 20 sumthing matches less and his batting avg is higher as well. And his bowling average is only 2 points above Jason’s own. Bravo’s test career ended when Sammy was appointed captain. There isn’t space in a test xi for two allrounders and even though bravo is the best WI all rounder since Marshall, he didn’t have his countrymen as president and CEO of the board of WICB
I know you’re a person totally ignorant of statistics(like when you said Kraigg brathwaite had the most centuries since BCL) but Bravo has as many centuries as Jason Holder in about 20 sumthing matches less and his batting avg is higher as well. And his bowling average is only 2 points above Jason’s own. Bravo’s test career ended when Sammy was appointed captain. There isn’t space in a test xi for two allrounders and even though bravo is the best WI all rounder since Marshall, he didn’t have his countrymen as president and CEO of the board of WICB
debut: 6/12/04
17,499 runs
In reply to openning
Jofra is enjoying his cricket, I hope that Zack is getting net session with him.Kemar has not local cricket for many years.
I am try not to post much since I had eye on Wednesday.
Jofra is enjoying his cricket, I hope that Zack is getting net session with him.Kemar has not local cricket for many years.
I am try not to post much since I had eye on Wednesday.
debut: 6/12/04
17,499 runs
In reply to Jumpstart
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your data is accurate.please correct
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And his bowling average is only 2 points above Jason’s own
your data is accurate.please correct
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debut: 11/13/02
77,894 runs
In reply to tc1
How about you correct your “logic” first?
your data is accurate.please correct
How about you correct your “logic” first?
debut: 2/22/04
7,768 runs
In reply to tc1 and Speed100
In case, you cannot read,
I said DJ is a great in T20's
Not Tests, Not T20I
Tell me that Holder can tie DJ's shoes in T20
BTW, Holder is my boy,
but I'm being objective here.
Please read my post again.
DJ will be in any objective World T20 starting 11.
T20
T20
T20
T20
Hope you can read it.
In case, you cannot read,
I said DJ is a great in T20's
Not Tests, Not T20I
Tell me that Holder can tie DJ's shoes in T20
BTW, Holder is my boy,
but I'm being objective here.
Please read my post again.
DJ will be in any objective World T20 starting 11.
T20
T20
T20
T20
Hope you can read it.
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