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The 4th best WI batsman of all time
In reply to imusic
and I have heard some say the most complete ever...equally good to pace and spin
man that backfoot cover drive...Lara played it too
they don't play those shots anymore
there is a Kanhai clip of it that i watch whenever i feel down and out here
In reply to doosra
I won’t disagree with that “most complete” statement.
The guy was special
More heard about Kanhai. He was nearing the end of his career when I actually saw him bat.
In reply to doosra
nope.....which is why when batsmen today are confronted by a proper test bowler, they struggle. kali had a speech at a function new york a few years ago, and he was talking about the dudes who charging and playing pacemen on the front foot because they have protection and he said in his day anybody playing a quick on the front foot in his day was a straight hospital visit
Why was Charlie Davis discarded with a 54 average in 15 matches?
I watched him score 180 plus against NZ..pure class
In reply to imusic
I am learning from Michael Jordan who says, it is insulting to speak of the greatest, who you have never played against, and who played in a different era.
He said to a guy, how can you say I am the greatest, with Bill Russell winning the most titles?
Shaq and Charles Barkley are saying the same.
In reply to Baje
politics. before clive boards were still bartering for their players being selected. clive stopped that nonsense when his team started winning. but davis retired before lloyd became cappo, maybe if he had stayed on things may have been different.
In reply to openning
by the same logic, if someone says Sobers is not the greatest some of unnu will bawl down waillllllllllll lol
In reply to Jumpstart
I remember Charlie Davis famously saying that Charlie the groundsman at QPO made more than Charlie Davis the WI cricketer. And then went on to say that he (Charlie Davis) was paid $10 per day for the test in Trinidad.
Things sure have changed today.
In reply to doosra
Tony Cozier made this comment many times on air in the 70s
In reply to doosra
The uniqueness of Sir Gary was his ability to bat, bowl pace and spin, and his fielding.
Some say a South African is better, but did he have other factors?
You must come up with some logic.
When I said Sir Everton was better it was not about looks or a shot that got fans excited, I have seen both, knew about their history, and at retirement, all factors come into play.
Basil Butcher is one of my five best favourite West Indies batsmen, from where he came from, and to finish with such an average in test cricket is incredible.
Charlie Davis was selected for the England tour and turned its down. He was in the dressing room with the players during that tour. I am uncertain, my senses tell me history health issues may have surfaced at that time. For those who are unaware he suffered from Parkinson’s Disease.
In reply to imusic
In reply to imusic
I remember this too
Many years ago I said this same thing here on dis board and mih buddy Dukesie challenged me and said I was making up stories...
In reply to imusic
I was at an event last weekend, met Lawrence Rowe. I was privileged as a youngster to be at Kensington on the Saturday of his 302. On telling him about seeing him and Kali beating ball. He said, "So many people forget that Alvin scored a century that day too."
In reply to imusic
check this one out...the wristwork and gap findng
link
In reply to doosra
An absolute joy to watch. Thanks for sharing
In reply to MikulT56
Many, many, many yrs ago in an interview praises were being lavished on Rowe when he interjected 'Did you see the little man at the other end?' He stressed how Kalli helped him. It was in that test that Tony Grieg 1st started bowling slow off-cutters. Yagga said he drove at a flighted one and got a thick outside edge to thirdman. After the single he came down and asked Kalli 'what happened there?' Kalli said that was a drifter start single he n gi he to mi. Each time Grieg tossed up the drifter Kalli in a flash was down the track on-driving for four. It was during that period that after Kalli took a quick single off Grieg and bumped into him that Grieg called Kalli ' A BLACK BASTARD'
It caused a furore (think Cozier was the one who revealed it on air). I have been trying to find any old article on it but cannot. Someone claims it didn't happen and I'd like to prove it did.
In reply to Brerzerk
WHAT?! and people try to say greig wasn't prejudiced or a stink racist? that grovel comment was rooted in deep, DEEP racism. nobody can convince me otherwise
In reply to openning
When I said Sir Everton was better it was not about looks or a shot that got fans excited, I have seen both, knew about their history, and at retirement, all factors come into play.
Better than who? Sobers? On which planet? What do you mean by knowing "about their history and at retirement, all factors come into play"?
Basil Butcher is one of my five best favourite West Indies batsmen, from where he came from, and to finish with such an average in test cricket is incredible.
Here you are talking about your personal preference. That's perfectly OK. No one will dispute that.
In reply to Overthrow
It is Multiple Sclerosis
In reply to camos
Mac was over paid
I just saw myself on that Video,I was wearing a red shirt abd had a beard,I was jumping up throwing my hands up in the air,it was the 8th ball in the Vid and Lilee was bowling.
In reply to doosra
Likewise you guys, if someone said that the great Babu only scored 1 ton against Hall and Griffith , you would say it fake.
In reply to granite
In reply to tc1
I read on Wisden about that match,Hall and Griffith was on fire,one of the openers went fuss ball,Kanha in,Rohan survive next opener gone,Butcher in he gone too,3 wkts dong for about 2 runs.Rohan and Solomon to the rescue.
In reply to granite
I saw it all, my lil brother was so scared, he peeks thru his fingers, and he thought it favorite player Joe Solomon was going to get hit.
In reply to tc1
I didn't envy anybody who had to face Hall and Griffith, also in that match there was a white bloke,a fast bowler called Richard Edwards.Did your lil brother ever played cricket when he grew up,Joe Solomon was a hard nut to crack from what I read but only scored 60 or a little over,he was good for us though.
In reply to granite
He played cricket very good, and if he had stayed in bim would have definitely played football for bim..
He picked up all the american sports and played pt guard for his H.S.
[b]In reply to Granite
According to cricinfo Joe scored a centuryi in 1959 tour to India.A very technical correct batsman.
In reply to tc1
Yea I just recall that,I think I read in the Papers (i used to read the sports page since i was six) that Solomon and Alexander scored 100s.I distinctly remember the TT papers said two of the greatest names in History Solomon and Alexander scored centuries.
PS,I can't recall if Alexander scored 100,it was possible he did or he made a high score to take us out of a hole.
Narper, I stand corrected, it’s was MS.
In reply to imusic
i believe kali scored a hundred in the second innings of this test......viv had already battered aussies to a pulp and kali methodically removed the heart of the aussies. in this same match, andy roberts dismissed both chappell brothers with successive deliveries. it was a true mauling. I've watched the highlights many times since it was uploaded on youtube.
In reply to granite
hall was a great bowler, a truly great west indian pacemen, the father of the modern WI pacemen in fact. a great sportsman and statesman. his role as manager of the WI in the 80s is truly underestimated. proof of Hall's greatness as an administrator aswell is the fact that under his tenure, there was never a player rebellion. We also performed better as a team. lost to SA and Aus, who had better teams, but beat India, who were rubbish away from home but were still expected to beat the WI(we had lost to both SA and NZ at home in the 2001 season) and Sri Lanka's best ever test team, with mahela, atthupatu, rampant murali and vaas, sanga, hashan tilekaratne, jayasuriya...a great side
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