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Hety gonna send some of these clowns mad.. Out of all de players in the region they bawling down for Kyle Mayers?

Even guys like Fletcher or Athanaze are better picks than Mayers.

In reply to anthonyp

some former players are selectively noisy

Fazeer Mohamed wants to drop Motie at every occasion

commentators shout for their homeboys - even the newcomers like Nikhil who seems to bat for the Chases et al. of the world more than they do for others equally worthy of consideration...just listen to their tone....even the sports media

the insular cancer continues to eat away...

phew

In reply to anthonyp

In reply to anthonyp

The consensus is Hetty very lucky to have made the squad, having said that, Mayers hasn’t done anything note worthy in T20 cricket in the past 12 months. Like u said, had they made a case for Fletcher for eg then that would be a diff argument.

In reply to Madmax

man of us has acknowledged that...the problem i have is the selective shouting...

In reply to doosra

Correct is right !! As day follows night, somebody gonna get injured prior or during the tournament.

Will be interesting to see who is the next man up especially in the batting department.

In reply to Madmax

Fazeer wanted Mayers over Motie...with haste to continue is agenda...he forgot to consider that an injury to one of the other spinners leave WI with a depleted spin attack....meanwhile Rohit asked the India selections for 4, yes FOUR spinners...they were here a few times recently and they saw the tracks

we is we own enemy

In reply to doosra

I remember recently we finally got to see Hosein and Motie play together. They actually complimented each other well and we had overs of spin available in the middle over which we usually don’t when Hosein plays as the lone spinner.

Motie always seems as though he is auditioning.
He has proven he is more than capable when given the chance.

All the pundits love drop Motie first !

In reply to doosra

Nobody listening to Sir Amby!

Insularity, as Sir Ambrose said...is a big issue...when was it not though..?

The answer is straightforward but not an easy fix...SEE NO FLAG...JUST SEE THE TEAM...

For me, Myers and Hety are interchangeable. Both only now play club cricket and our entire region is going to wake up in June to the sad realisation that club cricketers cannot win you a World Cup and are likely to just be an embarassment to the entire region. Simply put, you cannot bring a knife to a gun fight as we are planning to do.

People who crying insularity themselves being insular because the player involved is their homeboy

Hetmeyer deserves all the criticism he gets. And he is extremely fortunate to be selected.

Hes fucked up numerous times with off the field issues when it comes to WI
He hasn’t performed in his specialty for WI in ages
As others have pointed out, there are already other players in the squad that perform the finishing role better than he does for WI and he has failed repeatedly batting higher up

I would not advocate for Kyle Mayers. But even he arguably has a better claim to selection than Hetmeyer. He fails just as much with the bat, but has often delivered with the ball for WI

Again…..I’m NOT advocating for Mayers. But those that do not entirely out to lunch.

In reply to doosra

Likewise Doosra, you and the many GT posse are calling for Hetmeyer, isn't the same cry of insularity.

In reply to imusic

It’s Hetmyer by the way you pissed yourself over Hossein you could fix that thanks lol

In reply to imusic

you are painting with a brush that you yourself know will not give the picture many people here feel about Hetty
many of us GT ppl were being cussed for hating on our homeys...

the point is, that there are some who hush their damn mouth when is their homey and then have mouth for others...

that is the point...

i will continue to point them out for you

In reply to WIfan26

In reply to doosra

In reply to tc1

i did NOT call for Hetmyer, imusic knows that fully well...i said he was lucky to get in...and for me personally, I value loyalty...but it goes both ways...that i accept

my mantra is 'go make your future, do what is best for you, but spare us the excuses and childishness'...Hetmyer has done his fair share to suggest he doesn't care for WI cricket...yes some may argue selectors did him in a few times but he has made ppl fools...and to me that is a serious issue of principles on his side...coach Sammy said he came with a clean slate so now it's up to him

on the insularity thing - i am pointing out an inconsistency

we all love our homies but what is clear is some folks have lost all sense of fairness even when it is so obvious

In reply to imusic

to be clear, I am NOT deflecting, it is for you to believe that OR not, i know you know

what we end up with is many wrongs making no rights and WI cricket slips another notch into irrelevance

i have been harsh in my outlook on Hetty...i have said many times, Hetty please tell the people you are not available...stop getting big people to book flights etc...

do like NickyP - say you are not available...whether we like it or not that is a clear message (referring to the ODI series he missed during the MLC)

we must do better

In reply to tc1

Insularity is just a word, it means nothing to me.
I am a cricket fan, I remember Kraigg batting two days without scoring a double, I was critical of his batting and was accused of being in bed with Imusic.
I posted a video a few days ago, Wes Hall stated that as a selector during the years when West Indies was winning, his group never received praise for the team selection.
What does that tell you?
I have often asked, why did Barbadian fans being insular, would Knight Carl Hooper?

In reply to openning

Very poor choice for Kighthood, I would have knighted Sudden .

In reply to imusic

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In reply to mikelegend

Hosein has 1 s

Hetmyer has 2 e’s lol

Guyana is the richest country amongst the cricket playing nations, therefore our players by extension are treated with respect. Before the Titties oil spoil, all kindsa ends of players used to get pick from the Tittland. They even mess up and made Pollard a captain....so just bless and accept Hety.

His Ipl team rewarded him for wi selection by dropping him from the team11 for this match
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If Chased can be picked why’d not Hetty?

In reply to Madmax

He should just make people eat their words then. Simple yet challenging response.

Mi Naw cyah nuh wata fi Hety but Mr. Wallace could not help himself?
Is the meat of his argument that Hetty based on indiscipline, form and ability ought not to be picked
or is it that fellow Baje Kyle shoulda get a pick? When is this insular nonsense going to stop?

In reply to grugru

In reply to kingdom

That's a Bajan... Like Philo he can't help himself

Just checked the cricinfo commentary and saw that he and the other finisher missed this match due to minor niggles...

In reply to doosra

Nikhil started off decent.. But he couldn't help himself.

Whole day d man commenting under his posts that Chase deserved his selection because everytime he got an opportunity he performed... Ah see people asking for references to these performances in T20s and he can't find it up to now

De man even think Chase should be there ahead of Motie lol

In reply to WIForever

Most of us, in the interest of West Indies cricket, are praying that these players will make us eat our words by winning the World Cup. The criticisms come from years of pain.

In reply to anthonyp
Hehe - di ORS strikes again

In reply to anthonyp

you cannot help yourself either, you are advocating for Hemeyer who has not produce in a long time versus Wallace who is doing the same for Mayers.

In reply to tc1

If you read the first post I made you will see I said that I could understand if they were making a case for Fletcher or even Athanaze... At no point did I say Hety should be there.

In reply to tc1

When I started this thread, I did so for honest comments, but sadly too many folks went straight to their comfort level with gutter insularity.

SO for the record, let me clarify, for those who need it:

1. It is not insular to criticize Hety's inclusion, for all that he has done outside of the team and for all that he did not do when selected, his pick is shocking and he is damn lucky (We hope he does well in the wc)

Guyanese fans, should not defend him on the basis of him being Guyanese- that is insularity.

2. Chase is a hard worker, but he is lucky to be in the team.

3. Those who advocate for Myers are not being insular, Myers is unlucky to be left out, any other team would have been happy to have him.

MOVING FOWARD, Everyone, must support all the players regardless of one's personal opinion on selection.

In reply to Emir

1. Everybody and their mother knows Hetmyer is very lucky to be there! What they also know is that he is still very much in the top 15 T20 players in the WI hence he made the squad!!!

2. Obviously Chase has been very lucky but weren’t you calling for Khary Pierre the other day I wonder how insular you felt then???

3. Kyle Mayers hasn’t played a single game for his franchise even after the racist QDK was dropped so wheel and come again!!!

Your last statement is absolutely true so good vibes only from now on!!!

when i see this topic former players question hety selection. I already assumed it was some sour trini and i was correct.

They only want their own trini in the team.

That fazeer guy is a big joke.

Trinidad getting poor by the day and these losers like fazeer are useless.

In reply to imusic

Maybe we should check the stats of the squad selected then we will know who should be there if we are picking on form and performance.

Can someone post the stats for the last 10 innings.

Our stock is low .

My take is T20 is a hit and Miss game. Form and consistency should not count for guys who are batting lower than 4. Most of the time guys have to score quick.
The top 4 gets to bat majority of the deliveries . The best should be in that position.

In reply to Overthrow

You know full well Chase and Sammy are Zouks, how did he perform in the CPL in comparison to the allrounder you would want to insert?
Hetty and Chase are NOT COMPETING for the same slot, Hetty will not bowl a ball in the competition, I am surprised you stooped to that level.
BTW, I just saw Chase and Holder bring their experience to the 4-day championship. can you imagine if these two played the full tournament?

In reply to WIfan26

But your are being insular by your defense of Hety, only because he is Guyanese, if it was not insularity, then you would have justified Chase’ pick as well.

Also, me calling for Pierre and Myers is simply my choice, why did you see it as insular? Because Pierre is Trinidadian? Well again you are goomg insular and I wish you will quit, I mean even Jeremy agrees with you.

In reply to Emir

What??? How come you’re allowed to have an opinion and others aren’t???

Like I said before fortunately or unfortunately Hetmyer is amongst our best T20 players and if his competitor was Kyle Mayers there was enough justification to pick him!!!

ie Mayers hasn’t played a game in the IPL
his Int’l T20 figures are worst than Shimron’s!!!

Now can you kindly explain to me how you would justify picking Khary Pierre over Gudakesh Motie or even Roston Chase???

Roston Chase played our FC competition and did well albeit 1 game and then went to Nepal and also performed so as the only off spinner in contention it’s fairly understandable!!!

In reply to WIfan26

If Mayers and Hetmeyer were in competition for a spot, Mayers brings better value to the team

The reality is, they’re not in competition.

Hety is one of the best T20 players in the region maybe. And that’s not based on recent performance for anyone……club or country. Thats all based on past reputation. Just like 5 ODI centuries at the beginning of his senior international career and literally nothing since.

In reply to imusic

i argue that perhaps it'sbecause of his ability to bat spin and the tracks expected to spin that gave him the nod over another...he could be useful if things go south...

but that is me searching for a reason to understand his selection given we already have a ton of finishers

In reply to doosra

For me the pick is based on past reputation and the fact that he is one of the top earners from the region in the best T20 tournament (by far) on the planet.

Basically, how it go look if we DON’T pick him and IPL’s RR paying him so much money to play for them?

The question becomes……is that justification for his selection?

We will soon find out.

In reply to imusic

Yea fair enough I definitely agree!!!

Honestly I think the only reason he got picked is because he’s been hanging out with Rovman Powell and somehow convinced him he’s ready for International cricket again!!!

Also yea it’s definitely to hide from the media outburst especially from India because the first article from Cricinfo would be Hetmyer not picked and no one would give a shit about the squad lol

IPL owners not in the habit of giving out big $ to any and everybody, particularly West Indians, so he definitely has something.

All of that is beside the point.

He's in the World Cup squad. He has my full support.

Hetty is lucky to be part of the WC squad. I have no problem with whether or not he made the squad. Hetty given his talent should be an automatic pick in any WI white ball team. However, due to choices he made his spot in the team is up for debate.

His selection in the World Cup Team shows that CWI has not given up on him and there is hope that he gets himself in order and starts to perform.

As imusic said IPL are paying hetty the big bucks because they see the talent he has.

Hetty v Mayers - Hetty has more upside there.

I would hope that Hetty gets serious about his cricket before it is too late.

In reply to openning

Chase has been a miserable failure at the international level. Should stick with list A cricket. ABC anybody but Chase

In reply to Overthrow

In reply to Overthrow

I’m not a Roston Chase fan.

However, he HAS performed of late when given opportunity. He merits his selection.

I would have gone with Kevin Sinclair for this World Cup, but I understand that Chase’s experience likely gives him the edge. I have no problem with that and Chase, like every other member of the squad, has my full support.

This thread is as much about Wallace and his insularity as it is about anything else.
He could've stated why he thinks Hetty ought not to be picked. Since Mayers is an opener and useful part-timer with the ball
he should've stated why he thinks he should be picked and at the expense of which opener and or allrounder.
Truth his his insularity and an hopeful outstretched hand couldn't have allowed him to.
a. He is not able to say Mayers could be picked over Chase though Chase is an offie (Insularity)
b. He dared not say Mayers could've been picked instead of Charles (outstretched hand towards influence power or Moolah) cyan upset Sammy and Haynes too much. Will he be in the commentary box for any matches?

In reply to Emir

Just saw your responses, I limit my time of mb as I just had surgery.

In reply to openning

I concur with music, the opportunity should have gone to Sinclair. How long do we have to live through the Chase failures. Like Jason Mohammed, he has failed at international level.

Hety seh this is for some of y'all... Philo and the others...

De man enjoying time in the IPL with his son whilst they complaining about his spot in the squad...

Big Hetty training little Hetty

Junior Hetty in action

In reply to Overthrow

I was surprised when Sinclair signed with GAW last year. Tahir, Motie, and Junior Sinclair being their meant he was not going to play 10 games. I thought he would at least played 5, but ended up playing none. That definitely hurt his chances. He needs to go to another team this CPL.

Myers instead of Charles in my mind. He might be called in during the tournament as how we organizing. One thing for sure, Charles will probably beat up pon dem minnows but when they make it to the next round then is when the cricket really start. Hety selection might be a stroke of genius, only time will tell.