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Leading cause of disease

In reply to Emir
Was never a milk drinker -even as a toddler, I used to spit out the milk and the porridge, but I do like the occasional coffee ice-cream.
You will never ever see me drinking a glass of milk.

In reply to Emir

Now, here is an investment idea. Let's get into the human milk production business. We don't have to do the production locally. Like most modern 'manufacturing' processes, we can take advantage of the readily available Chinese resources.

Details to follow.

In reply to Drapsey

The on the average 6 feet American men and over 5 feet women will generally attribute that height to milk!

That said, a lot of different milk on the market these days!

Lactose intolerance

Knowledge is Power! A true and powerful statement .

Human beings are naturally " Lactose Intolerant " ( lactase non persistent"), we lose the ability to efficiently process the lactose in dairy products from about age 26 and should gradually reduce intake of such products as we age. Being openly lactose intolerant means that you eschew more symptoms than most, but
we are all at risk. The advice is not to totally eliminate....but to reduce consumption/intake- its tough to eliminate that peanut iceream/cheesecake altogether ...but ....reduced consumption will do.

Why this is not common knowledge passed on to the masses?

As usual the answer can be found by following the money... $$$$$ to the trillion dollar milk industry lobby.

and ...after Covid ....we know how the health "professionals " will roll.

so you are quite right.....

In reply to Emir

Humans are also the only species that cook food, breed and eat domesticated animals, farm crops, ferment alcohol, etc. Following the good doctor's logic, it would seem that humans should only consume raw meat and wild plants, and drink water.



Designed by whom? Let us use the word adapted. I would agree that the nutrient profiles are different, but hardly completely different - both contain proteins, fat, the sugar lactose (yes, nearly all infants are lactose tolerant), vitamins, calcium, etc. That human milk may be slightly nutritionally superior to cow's milk for infants is why medical authorities typically recommend breastfeeding, where possible.

But the subject at hand is adult (or non-infant) consumption of cow's milk. The point is whether the difference between human milk and cow's milk is relevant at all. The human digestive system does not recognise the sources of ingested material. It's role is simply to break down this material into digestible constitutent parts - proteins are ultimately broken down into individual amino acids, sugars into glucose, fats into fatty acids - and eject the rest. What counts, of course, is the nutritional value of the overall diet.



I would not characterise lactose intolerance as a disease. If the symptoms of drinking milk are intolerable, don't drink it. What's weird about drinkng milk (or eating cheese, yoghurt, cream) if a person is lactose tolerant, it's a good source of protein, fats, sugar, vitamins, calcium, etc, and it's pleasurable to do so?

I will continue to consume my usual 2-3 pints a day.

In reply to KTom
All animals drink water

In reply to Chrissy

How is that relevant? The thread is about milk (which is about 90% water). If you wish to subsist on a diet of water, uncooked flesh and wild fruit and vegetables in solidarity with the rest of the animal kingdom, be my guest.

In reply to XDFIX

To high protein diet not milk. Within 40yrs of WWII The Avg Japanese was 2" taller... eggs one of the main reason

The good doctor continues:

Am I allowed to ask how it damages the intestine? Or would that be pedantic and boring? Where does the blood come from and where does it go?



So is milk the problem or only its excessive intake? I'm reminded of the maxim - the dose makes the poison.



The logic eludes me. Is he claiming a direct causal link between drinking milk and brittle bones? Is he suggesting that high consumption of calcium - which conventional medicine teaches strengthens bones - actually weakens them? If Europeans (I assune he means whites) do indeed have a higher incidence of old-age fractures than Asians, I would contend a more reasonable explanation be that whites generally have a greater life expectancy than Asians, and so one would expect to see a correlation with age-related maladies.

Excellent deconstruction of that Facebook-worthy post.

Well, the milk sold in the modern times is much different from the milk sold decades ago. Especially in the first world countries where big profits determine most things, big milk retailers sell milk full of additives, like antibiotics, growth hormones, steroids. Those additives affect people in different ways, here are some ways, for grown men it could lead to an enlarge prostate, as the growth hormones could keep the prostate growing, #2, it can make both girls and boys enter puberty earlier, #3, milk creates mucus in a person's body, especially if they have any mild infection, sometimes that mucus get trapped around to brain which could lead to strokes and amnesia as a person gets older, sometimes the mucus settles around the joints that cause arthritis.

In reply to dayne

Bro, milk must be free from Steroids, Antibiotics and Growth Hormones before it is fit to be sold for human consumption…BY LAW!!!
No international producer will risk that.

In reply to Chrissy

Me goat, sheep, and cow suck dem momma bubbie

In reply to Halliwell
Where did you find that law? I doubt it exists, I do not know if you remember about 15 years ago Oprah Winfrey was sued by the American Farmers Association, because on one of her shows she highlighted the same list of things I highlighted in my post. The Farmers won the lawsuit and the courts give them the greenlight to continue giving their cows the chemicals. Oprah had to pay 20 million dollars for the damages and loss of sales the farmers incurred.

In reply to KTom

When I was in Gothenburg, I was told this at Chalmers University by a professor who was Russian...lol

The Scandinavians, like the rest of humanity, are unable to synthesize vitamin D in their epidermis for the majority of the year due to the feeble sunlight they experience as a result of their location in the far north. 
Consequently, the discovery of a mutation that allowed them to metabolize milk as adults led to a rapid dispersion of the mutation throughout the population.
They are the only ones that can....
This was due to the fact that dairy products contain an adequate quantity of vitamin D, which allowed them to survive in the environment.
Nevertheless, rickets were a widespread problem before this discovery, notably in the aftermath of the industrial revolution, which led to a decline in outdoor activity. 

Furthermore, individuals who immigrate to this region from other countries frequently face obstacles. If they have a darker complexion, they are even more susceptible to vitamin D deficiency than their native counterparts. 
This is the underlying cause of the melanin deficiency in this region.

In reply to dayne

You ‘doubt the law exists’. Please google it for US, Aus, Can, EU and UK.

Oprah was sued because it was false or misleading info she was peddling. What looks nice on a meme is sometimes not factual.

In reply to sgtdjones

You can live a whole lifetime in that region of the world never ever drink milk and not have Vit D deficiency.
That region's diet is rich in oily fish and eggs two main sources of Vit D. Professor lie?
By the way Oprah was sued by the beef industry, not the dairy industry

In reply to Halliwell

In other news, UK removes organic human breast milk from the market

People lambasting raw, organic and screened cow milk but got wonderful breast milk ice cream running rampant in the UK.

In reply to Halliwell

Well, you are not well informed, if you google it with this question " Is antibiotics and growth hormones used on farms" ? You will get a nice short definitive answer that will be in agreement with what I said. The use of those chemicals on farms have been a source of concern for decades, in Mexico where the use is overly done in some instances, it is reported that the young girls develop breast at six years old in some towns

In reply to Brerzerk

Consequently, the discovery of a mutation that allowed them to metabolize milk as adults led to a rapid dispersion of the mutation throughout the population.
Nevertheless, rickets were a widespread problem before this discovery, since you are an expert on Vitamin explain about rickets?

sigh

In reply to Halliwell

Don't you have google on your speed dial it knows every thing...this way you can be well informed

In reply to sgtdjones

I give up with some people here.

No wonder Doctor Zinc and Vitamin TRUM&P showed up!

In reply to sgtdjones

Rickets is vitamin D/Calcium deficiency disease. In the absence of Vit D the body. Cannot efficiently synthesize and absorb Calcium and Phosphorus. In adults both muscle and bones could be so weakened as to cause falls. Most obvious lack in young uns is rickets but many other things can occur even brittle teeth.
The source of D has no relationship to Rickets or else strict vegetarians who couldn't get enough sunlight would be bowlegged, with broken teeth and falling over because they don't drink milk. SMH!

In reply to Emir

I suffered from daily consumption of milk for years. A dermatologist told me that it was the cause of my severe acne when I was 17. Never listened to her, stopped at Devon House for ice cream after I left her office on Oxford Rd. Developed severe sinus problems later on, doctor told me the same thing but milk was too good. After having bun and cheese one Easter, woke up the next day with both eyes swollen. That was that.

In reply to KTom

Ah go hear bout you

In reply to Brerzerk

Rickets is usually caused by a lack of vitamin D, calcium or phosphorus.
Vitamin D deficiency can occur as a result of having dark skin, lack of exposure of the skin to sunlight, nutritional deficiencies and disorders of the liver, kidney or small intestine.

In reply to sgtdjones

Do you mean emergence, rather than discovery?



The vitamin D content of dairy products is considered to be low (where not fortified); the overall nutritional benefits of milk are more pertinent in this regard. It would seem you're confusing the incidence of lactose tolerance/persistence with that of lighter skin pigmentation.

In reply to dayne

Is there a single assertion here which could be said to be factually correct?

In reply to KTom

There are many, Oprah was sued, the farmers won the lawsuit and animals like chickens, cows and pigs are routinely given steroids, antibiotics and growth hormones. Some people's health is negatively affected by that practice.

In reply to dayne

Let's begin with the first assertion:

I don't remember. When was it?

In reply to Chrissy

Recently I started drinking milk and now I get this sort of news,what do i do now,in fact I'll check it out because I kind of like it.

In reply to KTom

Search Google for the info, however Oprah was sued in 1996, so it is more than 20 years ago

In reply to dayne

I'll take this as a concession that the first assertion was false or, at least, highly inaccurate.



Google turns up no information on such a body. Please advise.

In reply to granite

There is no value in drinking commercial milk if you are an adult.