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Why did not Mikyle Louis open ?

 
cricketfreak 2024-07-03 12:25:24 

This guy score his runs at the top opening out score all the other opening batman included Brathwaite and you tell us that he is not good enough to open the batting? This look like they qant him to fail so that they can put whoever they want to oprn instead of him but so good whenever they put him he is proforming andshowing his class , there is no way they can stop Mikyle Louis from opening against england in the up coming test match .

 
Yadi 2024-07-03 12:43:27 

In reply to cricketfreak

Sis is one ... half dozen is the other.

 
openning 2024-07-03 13:09:36 

In reply to cricketfreak

Are you aware that Sir Wesley Hall watched five test matches in England, learned the game, and lead the West Indies attack after that series?
This is a practice match, not a fc.
CWI cannot walk and chew gum together, there was no prep for this series.

 
hubert 2024-07-03 13:36:18 

In reply to openning

Be accurate...Wes spent all 1957 tour learning to bowl.
Then he watched all the Pakistan/ WI series in 1958.
In summer FC matches against Jamaica in Jamaica in July 1958 he and Holt were named to replaced
Worrell who was named captain but declined the tour to India /Pakistan and the party increased to 17.
Wes made his mark then in partnership with Gilchrist.

 
hubert 2024-07-03 13:39:11 

In reply to cricketfreak

It is obvious, and I said it before that McCaskie is being looked at to replace Chanderpaul as partner
for Brathwaite.
Louis should be first in line.But who are in charge ????smile

There are some here on this MB that were advocating for the dropping the most successful batsman in Australia, McKenzie.
Go Figure. That would Jamaica without a rep lollol
This place is a riot.

 
openning 2024-07-03 14:57:55 

In reply to hubert

It is obvious, and I said it before that McCaskie is being looked at to replace Chanderpaul as partner
for Brathwaite.

McCaskie was the backup to Kraigg and Tage, it is not like Mikyle with has years of regional experience, the youngster had one season where he scored 4 tons, which was enough to get him selected.

 
bird 2024-07-03 15:15:28 

In reply to cricketfreak

the answer is simple they are trying to give McCaskie first preference to make team

 
doosra 2024-07-03 15:34:43 

Louis averages close to 50 with 3 100s and 4 50s in 7 matches

he is the 2nd opener

simple

i do not want to hear about pecking order

 
openning 2024-07-03 15:50:04 

In reply to doosra

That tells me you are not a follower or study history of players' selection or development.
If Louis was in Australia, India or England, the year's performance would get him some recognition, I wrote about Brooks, after seeing him against Australia a few years ago.
He had a resume at the county and FC level, better than every current West Indies batsman.

 
hubert 2024-07-03 15:59:11 

In reply to openning

Are you saying that McKaskie is a bona fide opener . How many Tests, FC matches and what is his overwhelming
superior record to Louis that puts him ahead in any pecking order ?
And how did he do in Australia recently ?
I wanna know to get an idea of your thinking among other things.

 
openning 2024-07-03 16:08:27 

In reply to hubert

That is not my argument.
McCaskie has been the Backup opener, why select him?
It is not that Mikyle brings loads of experience that we all know about.
I look at Bronny James being drafted by the Los Angeles Lakers, not only does the youngster bring with him a solid resume, but Lebron has enough power to have his son drafted.

 
hubert 2024-07-03 16:10:03 

In reply to openning

I think you are a bit confused. When you are not any longer, I will engage you in a conversation...till then ta ta

 
imusic 2024-07-03 16:12:20 

In reply to hubert

lol!

Doh be so rough on mi breddrin openning (although he look for it) cool

He means well. He cyah help being Bajan is all big grin

 
openning 2024-07-03 16:26:35 

In reply to imusic

I have been following this game for 60 decades, learned to score when I was 10 years old.
I have several concerns with the CWI development process.
Louis's year performance in most International cricket countries will get him some recognition, not selection.
Only in the region, are we seeing this kind of selection.

I am not a follower.

 
imusic 2024-07-03 16:41:31 

In reply to openning
McCaskie only got selected for WI because he’s Bajan. When he first got selected for WI, he didn’t have anywhere near the sort of domestic season that Louis just had.

McCaskie has played 18 FC matches and averages 30.12

Louis has played 7 FC matches and averages 48.71

Yet you advocate that McCaskie should occupy the opening position ahead of Louis because he is “the incumbent”? Never mind he has yet to play a single match and has performed substantially less than Louis in FC cricket?

Until today, neither had played a single match for West Indies. And even then, Louis scored a 50, and McCaskie…….well…..you know.

Allyuh Baje is sumting else. cool

 
openning 2024-07-03 18:08:18 

In reply to imusic

Louis has played 7 Regional matches and averages 48.71.

Just info for the argument's sake.

 
Brerzerk 2024-07-03 18:47:18 

In reply to doosra

You may recall in The Best/Viv post how I explained WI's former policy of 'blooding' players.
While we may not agree with it McKenzie is an example of why young talents should not be
rushed into tests after one or two good FC seasons unless one is sure technique, temperament,
patience, character, mental toughness are all thoroughly assessed. Compare Cuddy Walsh's career
to Milton Small's. Compare Angel 1.0 and Angel 1.2 Lara, Kalli, Chanders, Rowe, Gayle would've
all likely be good to great batsmen but look at their grounding and see if you will not conclude that
the grounding in multiple FC seasons (plus tours and blooding for some) didn't ensure it more.
a. Rush people then cuss dem and Mgt when they fail
b. Some ppl show signs of certain complexes re themselves and support from players from their area or with their passport.

By the way at Gilly's funeral Hall said that when he joined the tour Gilly after a net session said to him 'You gonna do well'

 
imusic 2024-07-03 18:59:53 

What “grounding” does McCaskie have over Mikyle Louis?

 
WIfan26 2024-07-03 19:01:06 

In reply to Brerzerk

Well said I don’t understand the rush we’ve been here before ie Hope, Hetmyer and now to a lesser extent Athanaze & Kirk our system doesn’t allow for people to come prepared and often they are thrown into the fire just to be cursed out!!!

Why would WI want a promising youngster to be thrown in against England in England that’s insane!!!

I rather him possibly playing the last test and then being fully prepared to play our Home series!!!

We have nothing to lose feeding Mcaskie to the sharks but with Louis he may never recover just like the others before him!!!

 
imusic 2024-07-03 19:03:18 

In reply to WIfan26

So this is some deliberate “strategy” to “sacrifice” McCaskie for the ultimate benefit of Louis?

You cyah make this shit up. rolleyes

 
WIfan26 2024-07-03 19:07:12 

In reply to imusic

Lol usually I don’t side with the Bajans but a shooting star is rare and I don’t think we’re going to get another Shamar Joseph so soon I rather give the kid the best chance to succeed!!!

 
Brerzerk 2024-07-03 20:19:34 

I'm just worried we are putting too many undercooked young inadequately prepared talents out there too quickly.
It speaks to the poverty of the quality of the coaches in the youth system as well as poor club cricket.

 
Maispwi 2024-07-03 21:01:28 

I am sure if Louis had opened and gone for spit and McCaskie had scored 50 batting at 3, the question would have been asked why dey sent a rookie to open when McCakskie had been on tour before? Is like dey protecting him wud have been the cry.

Conspiracy theories will never stop

 
imusic 2024-07-03 21:11:39 

In reply to Maispwi

if Louis had opened and gone for spit and McCaskie had scored 50 batting at 3

Well now you dealin in pure fantasy.

Cyah debate fantasy

 
hubert 2024-07-03 22:28:48 

In reply to imusic
Agree. You really can't some shit up lollol

 
tc1 2024-07-03 22:30:21 

In reply to imusic

It seems from your discussion that Louis was omitted from the team today, did he play?

 
cricketfreak 2024-07-03 23:42:00 

Guys don't let them pull no wool over your eyes because they sure can't do that to me .they think others stupid and only they alone have sense but the more they speak the more foolish they make themselves sound and look .

 
openning 2024-07-04 01:01:43 

In reply to tc1

Be accurate...Wes spent all 1957 tour learning to bowl.
Then he watched all the Pakistan/ WI series in 1958.

I was responded with the above, learning is just for a few.

 
kgbcan 2024-07-04 10:26:01 

In reply to openning

I have been following this game for 60 decades


Banna yuh been around a really long time!shock

 
Slipfeeler 2024-07-04 11:21:37 

In reply to bird

McCaskie cannot bat period! Why keep forcing under talented Bajans to play for WI over more talented players from other islands? If they had their way WI most successful batsman in Australia, Kirk McKenzie, would not even be in the squad and replaced by failed players like McCaskie.

 
Kay 2024-07-04 13:48:10 

In reply to kgbcan

Banna yuh been around a really long time!

That dude is senile. He should be spending his golden years with his grandkids instead ....

 
kgbcan 2024-07-05 02:38:43 

In reply to Kay

That dude is senile. He should be spending his golden years with his grandkids instead ....


Or great great Grandkids?wink

 
imusic 2024-07-05 03:12:14 

In reply to kgbcan

Leff mi breddrin openning alone cool

He loves his cricket

 
positiveg 2024-07-05 12:33:26 

In reply to openning

I firgure you mean you been watching cricket for 6 decades not 60. Good you been watching cricket for like same years me and my youngest son been alive.
Your comparison about Brony James is totally off. He only got drafted because of who his father is. What stellar record the guy wouldn't even get drafted to play in no other NBA team as a second string player. Check his stats again. De boy average 4.8 ppg. How many other players would make it on a team with that kind of average.

You seem to want to skew the stats to state why McCaskie should play above Louis. You know usually I tend to like bypass these kind of insular post cause most I know is one poster trying to edge on another poster from another country. But I realise you are dead serious in your assessment of why you think he should play above Louis. First you want him to play cause he's been there before Louis. Yet you claim that Brooks should have played before others because he had a better FC record than those who were playing above him?
So the only issue is thay when it comes to a Bajan player it should be done but any other player from another territory it should not be applied. So your concern is CWI rules though skewed and needs changing though they shouldn't change it now because it would mean Louis replacing MCCaskie purely based on the fact that one is Bajan and the other isn't.

 
positiveg 2024-07-05 13:12:02 

In reply to imusic

Can't debate fantasy, lol. That's the quote of thr day so far for me.
If if and if. What if the queen had balls would she be thr king?

 
Castled 2024-07-05 16:29:09 

In reply to openning

Imusic after years of misleading fuckeries on Bajan cricketers has a clutch of weak ass-lickers in tow. As to be expected dotties vor, positiveg, ect are wannabe tits and long standing members of the anti-Bajan (cricketers) posse. Sad to see doosra the douche, slippy and peeps from the traditional cricket powers suckered by the vagabond imusic. lol

 
Brerzerk 2024-07-05 16:56:45 

In reply to Kay

That's pretty nasty...using a clear, clear typo (that is so very possible when using a phone) to practice ageism

 
openning 2024-07-06 00:31:55 

In reply to Castled

Here is the Topic

Why did not Mikyle Louis open ?


My Response; Are you aware that Sir Wesley Hall watched five test matches in England, learned the game, and led
the West Indies attack after that series?
This is a practice match, not a fc.
McCaskie was the backup to Kraigg and Tage,

This is about the practice match, West Indies batted first and started with the two experienced players.

I still believe Kraigg and the coach were spot on, in the first and second innings, allowing two openers to compete for the job.
Mccaskie was selected in the last three series, and Louis was selected from the last regional performance.

 
positiveg 2024-07-06 01:20:14 

In reply to Castled

Anti Bajan, that's such a soft post. The only thing I anti is this post. Because I choose to call out Openning by agreeing with Imusic I'm anti Bajan. What a joke. Boy go way. I honestly can't believe that's the best you could of come up with lol

 
Slipfeeler 2024-07-06 02:27:54 

In reply to openning

If that’s the CWI selectors rationale then, Louis has outperformed McCaskie, and the opening position should go to him.

 
tc1 2024-07-06 02:33:16 

In reply to Castled

lol

 
Castled 2024-07-06 03:04:51 

In reply to positiveg

You cant call out Openning you ass clown. What Openning has forgotten about cricket you and the entire nevis kitts will never know. Your trini overlord Imusic isn't all that either. Imusic's puerile chicken shyte posts fail miserably to degrade Openning's indisputable class as a knowledgeable, insightful student of the game. Man KYS.

 
voiceofreason 2024-07-06 12:35:06 

In reply to Castled

Who send you? Boss don't mix me up in Imusic and allyuh Bajans rey rey! My stance has been consistent from day one which is fair opportunity for my boys. If KB was a Trini or Yardie be rest assured I would call him out.

 
positiveg 2024-07-06 17:54:51 

In reply to Castled

Lol lol poor you getting all worked up
First thing I have nothing but respect for Openning because of his knowledge and of course he's an elder to me, but I still have a right to say he's biased in his assessment
Now for you I have no time to get into it with you cause there you go being all emotional. So again go way sho fly cause you come on here being all personal and now getting all worked up so again shoshoo likkle boy cause you nah act you age.

 
tc1 2024-07-08 14:50:20 

In reply to positiveg

My question to you and other of the post, was Mykyle omitted from the playing ?

 
positiveg 2024-07-08 15:57:38 

In reply to tc1

Omitted from the Playing you mean XI?
Nah
None of us know till Wednesday morning who the XI will be. I can see the argument from both sides
My argument is that the poster chose to use stats to diminish Louis stats but they backfired. I can see the posters point of view if you take someone basically as an understudy on tours and the person they are to replace or step in for, in case of an injury or poor form, is dropped it's only natural that, that person steps into the role. It's like proper succession planning. However, both young men played and one outshined the other not once but twice against the same opposition so you can see why people are saying it's only natural for the more successful batsman to 'open' right?
I was having a discussion yesterday in Nevis with someone who plays with Louis locally here and have been around the LI set up for a while and I mentioned I was surprised he got the call up. But from what they mentioned to me he seemed to have been on radar for a while so I guess the call up might be strange for us who are looking at his one stellar year, but he have been growing into where he is for a while.

 
TheTrail 2024-07-08 16:55:55 

Hey Dude, do you think he (openning) might have accidentally fat-fingered the number digit?

As usual, someone here is trying to make a mountain of a molehill.

Just a little clarification of nit-picking!!

 
openning 2024-07-08 17:15:53 

In reply to TheTrail

I can bet you none of the poster realized McCaskie was selected as an opener for three tours, he and Tage opened against South A, it was my post that these posters acknowledged he was retained
My point was about someone being the back up opener for two International tours, and the opener for an A tour
I never discuss the openers for the first test.

 
tc1 2024-07-09 00:06:47 

In reply to positiveg

Wishing Mykyle the best against Anderson if he is selected on Wednesday.

 
positiveg 2024-07-09 01:17:12 

In reply to tc1

Same and if is McCaskie the same. In all honesty I know this is Anderson last game and it's being billed heavily but I want us to really go out there and play the game to the best of their ability

 
openning 2024-07-09 02:05:49 

In reply to tc1

The West Indies middle order consisting of Kirk McKenzie , Alick Athanaze, and Kavem Hodge is beginning to show some fight.
Imusic your boy missed out on this tour, he is coming along as he belongs in the middle.
Kirk Mckenzie
Alick Athanaze
Kaven Hodge
Justin Greaves
They should be kept together.