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Does it make sense for WI to play Test cricket any longer? Given that, they have stopped playing ODIs and every cricketing nation worth its salt has a winning record against them in the 21st century. Thoughts?

In reply to suryaa

Welcome back.

Whatever happened to Khaja?

In reply to suryaa

what would happen to all dem indians who only want to be cool like west indians?

Do you mean cool as in be eliminated from WC (ODI), Champions Trophy, and get dismissed within one session of a Test match?

In reply to suryaa

2 world cups
2 t2o world cups
champions trophy

dominate world cricket for decades the way India can only dream of

plus the swagger that head shakes try to emulate lol

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On top of that WI didn't have to pay for their trophies

invest in ganja and cassava instead of cricket

In reply to Drapsey

He's back with an extra a to his handle.

In reply to Jumpstart

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Tell dis bogus Surya wid di hextra A

In reply to Jumpstart

For your alleged dominance in the cretaceous period let's peel that a bit. Last outright away series win:

Aus (1992)
Eng (198
India (1983)
Pak (1980)
NZ (1955)
South Africa (never)
SL (never) - perhaps the final frontier.

The dominance is a myth and completely absent in the 21st century.

In reply to Ridge

forgot the s

In reply to suryaa

No outright series win over Pakistan between 1980 and 1992 ( in the so called period of dominance). No series win against SA (home or away)..the less said about the 21st century, the better. It's arguable that no other "dominance" has been overstated as much as Mindies'..

In reply to suryaa

Your opening post asks a very pertinent question about the future of WI cricket. However, many of my esteemed friends on this thread like to dwell in the past..

In reply to doosra

There’s a reason West Indians don’t go on Indian message boards and start dumb threads like “ cricket in India”

No history
Plastic wins

In reply to Halliwell

With what face can you go to a India MB?

In reply to Khaga

In reply to suryaa

india underprepared mud pits which, if the ICC had that facility back then, would have had at least 3 grounds banned from hosting international games. only reason india escaped batterings because they were rubbish in the 80s and the 90s, and even into the early 2000s. And even then patrick patterson mauled them when they got (over)confident enough to prepare what approached a reasonable wicket. Pakistan was an all time great team: imran, javed, wasim, mudassar nazar, wasim raja. they were the second best team in the world. Australia were mauled, england were annihilated. NZ got away because fred goodall was incompetent and a nasty racist who was even disliked by many sections of the cricket community in his own country and when they came to the west indies, the true gulf in class in the teams was revealed.

West Indian dominance and near invincibility in cricket for the better part of 20 years is an irrefutable fact whether you like it or not.

you can argue that australia were bad in the mid to late 80s. It is also undeniable that the west indies had a leading role in putting them in that position. scourgings in 79/80 and o only the father of the modern fast bowler, a certain Dennis Lillee saved them in 81(again, there is nothing to be ashamed about being dismissed by Dennis Lillee) and further anihilations in 84(the first series that year in the WI, australia were unable to take 1 west indian 2nd innings wicket) and the we promptly ended kim hughes career and sent a further 5 to the calmer cricket pastures of apartheid SA

In reply to Khaga

In reply to Jumpstart

Here, on this platform, I discuss only West Indies cricket. West Indies did not win a single series in the subcontinent since 1983 during your alleged dominance. I remember alleged great Viv Richards throwing his bat away because he was flummoxed by Naren Hirwani. Well his so called dominance he doesn't have a 50 in Tests in NZ. Anyways that is in the cretaceous period that no one cares about. Have the West Indies won any Test series home or away in the last 15 years? I think it started with a brownwash by Bangladesh in 2009?

In reply to suryaa
india prepared a mud pit in 87 which even wisden, who had david frith as their editor, criticized. Nothing to be ashamed about drawing with pakistan, a truly great side.

As you don't recall

In reply to Jumpstart

And in the Caribbean uneven wickets. So it is par for the course.

In reply to suryaa

if a wicket does not lose at least some of its trueness as the test goes on, then it is not a proper test wicket. batting is supposed to get more difficult as the game goes on, not easier. And rightfully so because the hardest exam questions don't come at the beginning of the paper, they come at the end. in trinidad the ball seams around, whereas in barbados and JA, the pitch starts to fracture slighly on day four and is abrasive, so reverse swing is on offer, usually after tea. i see no issue. you have 3 and a half days to put up a proper score

In reply to Jumpstart

Kingston test was abandoned in 1998 because it was deemed dangerous

In reply to Khaga

West indies wasn't #1 by then. irrelevant

In reply to Jumpstart

Two bowling laws exposed your savagery and put paid to your mythical dominance..

In reply to Jumpstart

The same Amarnath that finished WI in ODI WC?

In reply to Khaga

chief....the bouncer rule came in 1991, August i believe. we beat australia down under , South africa in the WI, both in 1992, pakistan in 1993, england in 1994, nz in 1995. clearly it didn't affect the team that much. the australia and pakistan series were considered unofficial world test championship series...not to mention winning the WSC tri series featuring australia and world cup champs pakistan and the total international trie series in South Africa, featuring the hosts, pakistan and us. statistically the last 4 years of WI 's unbeaten run were better than the 4 years prior to 1991

In reply to Jumpstart

No away wins in India, Pak,NZ ,SA,SL No away win in England after 1988

In reply to Khaga

the total international tri series was in South Africa in 1993 genius. we won that. A team of reserves went to SA in the early 80s and beat them to a pulp though, itf that satisfies you

In reply to Jumpstart

You never made it to the ODI WC final after 1983..#fakedom

If my stats are right, WI had a 15 year unbeaten run in the so called dominant phase. But no cricketing nation has had a 15 yr beaten run. That distinction is unique to WI. Correct?

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In reply to Jumpstart

Definitely not as long as it took for WI to go on a 15 yr beaten run. That's a fact.

In reply to Jumpstart

When do you think your last series win in NZ was?

In reply to Khaga

1995. it was the last remaining team we had not beaten at home during our unbeaten run(sl series was rained out and we never got the opportunity to play SA before 1995 when we lost the mantle. but your team, hasn't won in nz since 2008, despite the money, the resources, being generously offered warm up matches and arrogantly refusing, and then being trampled by kyle jameson

That was a rubbish win against a rubbish team. The team had lost their major players and were getting ready for a major transition. In fact all the wins in the dominant phase are in that category.

In reply to suryaa