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Why has Shamar's pace dropped off so much?

 
1Desiabnu 2024-07-20 14:32:52 

All his balls are around 130-135k vs 140-145 in Australia. Thata's big difference.

 
TanteMerle 2024-07-20 14:57:46 

In reply to 1Desiabnu

No cricket for a few months will do that to you.

Also the cramps are a sigh of lack of full fitness.

Blame the CWI for not having proper camps.
Even amidst the WC, he should have been working out with a proper coach.

 
WIForever 2024-07-20 15:13:28 

Sitting on the bench in the ipl. I said long before...he should have been back home playing first class cricket if they were not going to play him.

 
WIForever 2024-07-20 15:13:57 

Net effect of the lure of the IPL

 
mikelegend 2024-07-20 15:21:12 

He needs another “special booster vaccination” on his toe.

 
dayne 2024-07-20 15:35:29 

At his fastest Shamar was not as fast as Alzarri, however, Shamar probably has not regained his rhythm yet.

 
1Desiabnu 2024-07-20 15:38:07 

In reply to TanteMerle

Damn. I thought he would have been working hard in the nets or wherever to come back even stronger. Not saying pace is everything, but it was nice to have an enforcer for one series. We have bowlers in that low 130 range. Aljo is still at 135-140-same as australia, but he can't put two balls in the same area.

 
1Desiabnu 2024-07-20 15:39:45 

In reply to dayne

Dude, Shamar was considerably faster than Aljo in Australia. I would say about +5kph on average.

 
SnoopDog 2024-07-20 16:03:32 

In reply to 1Desiabnu

Shamar was easily WI fastest bowler in Oz.

But when you have zero red ball cricket in 6 months with mostly bench warming in between, well you can see the results.

 
embsallie 2024-07-20 16:04:27 

Lack of match practice and preparation will have an effect on the body.
Shamar will eventually get there by the third test.

 
1Desiabnu 2024-07-20 16:05:26 

In reply to SnoopDog

Yea at that pace 5kph is a BIG difference. You go from not seeing the ball to really not seeing the ball.

 
SnoopDog 2024-07-20 16:09:40 

In reply to 1Desiabnu

Oh yeah.

That extra yard of pace makes ALL the difference, especially if it moves off the seam.

 
Brerzerk 2024-07-20 16:43:00 

There is fitness, then there is sports fitness beyond which there is test match fast-bowling fitness specifically. Unnuh work dat out. Nets and match ah nuh same thing

 
anthonyp 2024-07-20 16:43:08 

In reply to WIForever

You gonna pay him 350k to stay home and play FC cricket?

Some of yall does really chat shyte... free money on offer why should he refuse it?

 
dayne 2024-07-20 16:48:45 

In reply to 1Desiabnu

That is debatable.

 
SnoopDog 2024-07-20 16:49:40 

In reply to anthonyp

But look at how much his game and fitness has regressed.

As soon as these lickit leagues started throwing money at him (only for him to end up warming the bench) I knew it would fcuk up his game.

Then that ass clown Scammy picked him for the WC and had him doing sweet fcuk all the entire tournament.

 
1Desiabnu 2024-07-20 16:53:13 

In reply to dayne

That is debatable.


It's literally not debatable as it was measured.

 
Narper 2024-07-20 17:01:13 

What alyuh griping bout....how many wickets did express fast Wood get?

Sham Jo will get there....as he learns his craft at the highest level ....without proper FC experience.,,,,he needs to play full domestic seasons or even county cricket

And he was not only warming bench in IPL.....he did the donkey work in the nets...Alyuh remember young Drakes...after donkey work in the IPL....he done

 
SnoopDog 2024-07-20 17:05:56 

In reply to Narper

Wood’s pace created the chances at the other end.

But this is about how in the space of 6 months a bowler can go from bowling 95mph and routing an Ozzie team to bowling 85 mph and cramping every innings and not looking like taking a wicket.

 
Narper 2024-07-20 17:12:16 

[b]In reply to SnoopDog[/b

Wood’s pace created the chances at the other end.
....and how many wickets went dong yesterday?smile

 
SnoopDog 2024-07-20 17:17:30 

In reply to Narper

Didn’t the guy who made a hundred get dropped off Wood’s bowling before he even had 50?

 
SnoopDog 2024-07-20 17:19:59 

In reply to Narper

The best thing for Shamar’s career is to lose some of these lickit contracts and get back to playing proper first class cricket again.

 
Da-Vincy 2024-07-20 17:42:25 

In reply to SnoopDog

The best thing for Shamar’s career is to lose some of these lickit contracts and get back to playing proper first class cricket again.

Of these options, what would you say is the best thing for his overall future?

 
SnoopDog 2024-07-20 17:45:49 

In reply to Da-Vincy

Of the lickit leagues, IMO he should choose the one or two where he will be in the playing 11 and not a glorified net bowler warming the bench.

 
hubert 2024-07-20 18:05:13 

In reply to SnoopDog

Truth sire, but you know money is a big factor and hard to resist
if it come without much work smile

 
SnoopDog 2024-07-20 18:09:50 

In reply to hubert

For me the choice is: earn a lot now and put the rest of your career in jeopardy, or earn enough now and preserve your career for as long as possible to earn even more in the long run.

 
doosra 2024-07-20 18:27:31 

In reply to SnoopDog

but tomorrow is high risk esp wi cricket

there is no guaranteed future of wi test cricket...

a few years ago i suggested multiyear contracts (haha before England fih true) but cwi may not have the resources to put several guys on long term like England

 
Da-Vincy 2024-07-21 01:37:36 

In reply to SnoopDog

For me the choice is: earn a lot now and put the rest of your career in jeopardy, or earn enough now and preserve your career for as long as possible to earn even more in the long run.

If this is really your hope for him, i.e. earnings and ‘preservation’, then you should instead be advocating that the focus on Lickit.

For one, test cricket imposes a greater physical toll on him as a fast bowler. Plus, especially playing for WI where they chop and change inexplicably, there’s no guarantee that he’ll have a spot a year from now. Then of course there’s the vast pay differential.

So what’s really the case for him to forego T20 opportunities to focus on Tests? For your viewing pleasure?

kraigg has given us 90-odd test matches. And still getting plenty cuss. And I’m certain he and family are not doing as “well” as Bravo, Narine, Russell and the others who sign up for every Lickit under the sun.

 
Curtis 2024-07-21 02:38:38 

Shamar should have used his time bettering his game.
He did not. Everyday he's sitting is an opportunity to strengthen himself.

 
Bamboocane 2024-07-21 03:09:42 

In reply to mikelegend "He needs another “special booster vaccination” on his toe."


Neverknow. He was really charged up in OZ. hope they didnot give him one of those opioid pain relievers. How was the pace in the domestic competition prior to oz?big grin