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yall know my view on it
as stupid as it might come over

it leaves room for umpires to use their discretion and that is problematic in my view

phew

it should NOT be OUT or NOT OUT depending on who is calling it

In reply to doosra

Games would finish too fast ..would impact revenue badly

In reply to pooranian

In reply to pooranian

well if you keep giving all umpires call out then the game will finish fast

In reply to doosra

Do you still hate is now that Dasilva was given not out on umpire's call?
Whe Hawkeye first came in, it was to determine ball pitching and contact etc.

When they adjusted to the predicted aspect,
I remember Mikey Holding stating that the predicted nature is flawed and that they should
stay with the old system.

I have been playing cricket for a very long time (I am 62)
I wicket-keep for copious years and I have seen numerous balls do funny things after passing batsmen.
Balls can swing tremendously after passing batsmen.
No computer can accurately predict a ball's movement after it strikes a pad,
or where it would have gone had it not hit the pad.

Hawkeye should show ball pitch, connection with bat, pad etc and not predicted aspect.

In reply to TanteMerle

i have been consistent with my call

i do and will forever do

go read my many threads on umpire's call

In reply to doosra

Where is it?
Your tread that it.

In reply to TanteMerle

Agreed, moreover how many times as a keeper have you ever seen batters get bowled by ball barely clipping? When in doubt it should be n.o. Technology must be for bowlers and visuals such as "grossed catches"

In reply to TanteMerle

for several years now

ask others if you are interested

In reply to doosra

Hitting, out. I agree.

In reply to Brerzerk

When in doubt, they stick with the "umpires call".

Hindsight. There is. Degree of Freedom, so ball clipping could be crashing into the stumps or it could be missing. Method to the Madness.

In reply to Brerzerk

As a keeper I have also seen balls crashing in to the stumps and the bails not dislodged.

Technology can never say what a ball will do.

Although I hate it, it is here to stay.

My biggest issue is the umpire gives a lot of marginal calls to the Hinglish team.

In reply to doosra

I think umpires call leaders to umpires cheating without getting called out

In reply to doosra

its a way to legalize the bad decisions our players were the victims of so much in the 90s.

'Umpires call' is scientifically sound. Trust the science.

Are umpires not graded, based on Hawkeye?

In reply to TanteMerle

I agree with you, as someone who kept wicket also, I prefer having the technology.
Any Umpire who cheats can be exposed.
The Umpire Called rule could be amended to any time the ball hits the wicket, the batsman is out.

Isn't the umpire call a last resorts in inconclusive review, just like on field decisions with VAR in football?

'Umpires call' follows the scientific principle of hypothesis testing.

Its application is spot on.

Not meaning to sound cliché but, since Hawkeye, there's been a close symbiotic relationship between umpires and the technology. What I mean is that both have greatly 'assisted' the other in the understanding the decision making. process. As well as monitoring and assessing umpires

It is of necessity to follow scientific principles in its application. Hence Umpires Call.


A stark application of the principle is in the discipline of law where one is innocent until proven guilty. And academia on the whole for that matter. Umpires Call follows a similar usage.

Imagine a situation at the beginning of a game before data is collected(note: Hawkeye is based on historical data) by the technology regarding playing conditions. Or that there is variable bounce on a wearing pitch or the ball has become soft or that it is roughed up and began swinging. The umpires judgement needs to come into play in making the out Or not decision.

An umpire will cover nuances not captured by the technology. Thus he/she has to supercede the technology.

Still, umpire error is not completely illuminated