Recall Shai Hope, make him Test captain/Keeper

In reply to Jumpstart

He avg less than 15 in his last 10 test match.can you imagine his avg if he had played 15 more test match. How much do you think he would avg,you said you are an Eng. Student.

In reply to tc1

good players find a way back

don't you think?

In reply to doosra

not good players with technical chinks as glaring as Hope's. Didn't shai out to a short delivery from jansen in the WC. You can be a great white ball player and not be good at tests at all......Sky Yadav, michael bevan, lance klusener etc

In reply to doosra

Not at 35, maybe 25

In reply to tc1

another rubbish statement. adam voges was 35 when he made his test debut, played 20 tests and finished with an average over 60. dude played less tests than shai and had more test centuries

In reply to Jumpstart

To be fair, one cannot use Ozz as a benchmark.

Lost of great batsmen around a debutant is way better for him.

Windies players play among some of the worst in the game.
Hard management, poor playing conditions home,
no fans, batsmen having to take the field for long periods.

So please do not talk about Voges or even Hussey.

In reply to Casper

Let's see if he can hold his place just as a batsman before burdening him. I guess that means you are dropping DS.

This thread Bhai! Is the CRICKETER interested in your Test cricket that you can recall him much less make him Capitan and Keeper?

In reply to Jumpstart

Here is the fact jumpy Voges played 20 test matches and avg 60, his last 10 innings which is half of his career,
he made 133 runs at a great avg of 13.

In reply to tc1

and that is relevant how......shai could only score 2 test hundred in one game and could not lift his average in 38. another interesting stat is that in Voges last ten tests, he only batted 15 times

In reply to Jumpstart

The discussion was about Michael Bravo coming back at age 35 and you introduce Voges starting his career at 35 and ending at an avg of 60. you also did not complete the reason why Voges was dropped as he only mustered an 133 runs in his last 10 test matches for an avg of 13.
This is the same progression that Bravo last 17 innings seem to be hurling toward.

In reply to tc1

darren bravo is a quality player whose career, like ramnaresh sarwan's was destroyed by the pig headedness of the hotel managers running wi cricket. given the right management, anybody an come back at 35. Graham gooch was 37 when he scored a triple century and a century in one test vs india. he was 38 hen he played, in my opine, the second best innings ever versus patterson, ambrose and co. In fact, from 1990 to 1995, gooch never averaged below 44, thrice he averaged above 50



You people don't seem to understand that a cricketer is a highly skilled professional. most people have better chances of being doctors, lawyers and engineers than being professional cricketers. it is not like a hotel or resort employee who can be trained to do run of the mill tasks. the team getting battered left right and center but visit antigua, visit st lucia, visit trinidad, visit jamaica. the cricketers are not part of your tourism infrastructure

In reply to TanteMerle

Do you expect players with a 20 average and 1-2 tons to replace Kraigg?
Which club did you play for in Bim?

In reply to openning

At this point, anyone not named Tage, Solozano, or Moseley will be an improvement on Kraigg

In reply to openning



I played 'curry goat' leagues manly while in Bim.

I immigrated to Bermuda n my twenties and played for Police in first division.
However, I mainly play what was called commercial league.
There is Premier and first division, which are the two big leagues.
The commercial league was a lower division, with may retired player
and some players who despite their talent, refused to play in the highest league.
At one point the fastest bowler in the islands was playing commercial league.

I played BCL cricket for Sunrises while on vacation in Bim.
I first tried out for Carlton second division team, but could not make the cut due to the timing of my vacation,
although I trained with them.

In reply to Openning



My desire is for Braffit to be axed as cappo.
Let him compete for a batsman role.

Any cappo with such a poor record (batting and win/loss) deserves to be axed.

He was about to be dropped when he became cappo for the Bangy tour.
Got lucky with the injury to Shakib and the Mayers ton.
Suddenly he became undroppable.

As a cappo, his batting is crap.
His nuances of the game appear non-existent.
He does not inspire confidence.
Handles bowlers very poor, especially Mootie.

In reply to TanteMerle

I disagree. Definitely a better captain than Holder was. His batting weakness is now known by all and sundry. So unless as THE OPEN MINDED ONE says he comes back stronger.

In reply to natty_forever

Holder wasn’t a good captain at all. Comparing Kraigg to him is a comparison of two bad captains

In reply to Jumpstart

I agree with you.

Holder was just as bad as Braffit in terms of captaincy.

Holder's personal performances was better, but captaincy was all-uninspiring.

I say , give it to a youth and try a Greame Smith ala RSA.

Burden Athanaze with it. It may bring out the best in him.

Holder should captain the next series, just to give one of the young guys some more time to make a claim.

In reply to camos

ABB

Anybodi But Braffit

In reply to camos

Holder should captain an u-19 team. He can’t captain at the senior level

In reply to Jumpstart

sometimes you have to move back before you advance, tactical retreat.

In reply to TanteMerle

Athanaze is not graeme smith who hsd already captained a side at youth level and his place in the side was already secured with two double centuries in his first 11 tests the same amount athanaze has played . time to stop making these ad hoc decisions in wi cricket.holder should have never been given the captaincy either at 25

In reply to TanteMerle

For all of that talk you played gully cricket.