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This is genocide on steroids

In reply to Chrissy


Absolutely not!

What is genocide? Then juxtapose it honestly against everything Israel is doing to survive as a nation.

Bring everything into context including history and the Hamas slogan "from the river to the sea" and its execution against the Jews.

There is emphatically no genocide being committed by Israel.

The 1948 Genocide Convention defines Genocide as crimes committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnical or religious group. The convention was instituted precisely because of the killing of 6 million Jews by the Nazis. Ever since Israel has been struggling to exist as a modern day nation.

Isreal provides all types of support and aid to the Palestinian people white it seeks to destroy Hamas which from its name and chatter alone is an existential threat to the nation of Israel.

Hamas uses innocent civilians defying conventions of war to ensure survival.

How many instances and where have the definition of genocide been been satisfied? Let's start to explore these then we can talk.

Israel doesn't come close to satisfying that definition. Otherwise there would be universal cry to prosecute the perpetrators. Meantime we ignore totally the actions of Hamas and Iran's. This is the duplicity and sadness in this world

How long does it take to investigate and prove Genocide? Will you call the actions of China, Sudan, and Russia currently genocide?

In reply to InHindsight

I guess you are trying to be sarcastic,

In reply to Chrissy

No one can stop them, once they are bought. Bought into silence and acceptance. Whatever Israel does must be accepted otherwise it called antisemitism.

Antisemitism is slowly losing its original meaning of direct hatred and crime against Jews and rather has been expanded to mean any criticism of Israel and its actions.

So one must condemn the action of Hamas for its butchery on Oct 7, but remain silent on the ongoing genocide the world is witnessing in Gaza.

The practical application of that was witnessed at the just concluded DNC, where grieving Jewish parents were allowed to speak about their kidnapped son, but no Palestinian was allowed to speak for fear they would bring up the suffering of Palestinians and their 40,000 plus deaths.

This may help

In reply to Casper

Totally agree with your comment

Guys honestly and sincerely address the comments I raised.

Let's speak intelligently and objectively on the matter.

What percentage of the Palestinian people have died and how have they?

Ever hear in war an enemy 'telegraphing' its strategies to protect civilians and to preserve life, provide food and medical supplies? Meanwhile Hamas are forcing these same civilians - its own people to remain put to hide amongst them. Placing war artillery in hospitals and schools. Then we foolishly accuse Israel of genocide for seeking to eliminate an enemy who's chatter is to completely obliterate their existence.

In reply to InHindsight

Ironic that you are asking to be objective and speak intelligently while holding those arguments, biases and premises.

In reply to Chrissy

Yep, they keep re-writing history and providing alternative facts, like Oct 7th happened in isolation. Completed ignored the events that precipitated it. Under UN convention, the Palestinian have a right to defend themselves.

In reply to InHindsight

If you are fighting from a densely populated open air prison, where are you supposed to place your artillery? Just because the IDF says they are placed in hospitals and school, are we supposed to believe them. Are we supposed to believe everything coming out of Israel?

Pro-Israel misinformation aimed at dismissing and discrediting Palestinian narratives is the fruit of a decade-long effort.

In reply to Chrissy

I respectfully beg to differ, sis!

The International Criminal Court (ICC) defines genocide as the [deliberate] intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group in whole or in part.

This can be done by killing members of the group, or by other means, such as:

Causing serious mental or physical harm to members of the group
Deliberately making life conditions for the group so bad that it physically destroys them
Preventing births within the group
Forcibly moving children of the group to another group

In reply to XDFIX

I quoted exactly this definition to her, as determined by the 1948 Genocide Convention. Isreal is no even close to committing Genocide.

Hamas actually does aptly fit the definition because, the key and operative thing is 'intent'. By their chatter alone and the deliberate and unprovoked acts they are guilty.

In reply to InHindsight

Unprovoked? In an occupied territory????

In reply to Halliwell

What are you saying?

Everything there's the beginning of serious peace negotiations Israel derails it with murder and mayhem. Let's ask InBlindsight what "From The River to The Sea" means. Does he even know the geography of both Turkish and British Palestine?

In reply to Brerzerk

Why do you have to revert to childish namely calling. It's a sign of weakness and defeat, a la sudden.

Myself and the world know 'from river to the sea' what it means. And to ascribe any apart from what its actually means is nothing short of dishonesty.

Yes I know the history of the Ottoman Empire right up till its end in the early 1920s. Its conquest by Western Allies, and later the British Partition Plan, which was rejected by the Palestinians and surrounding neighbours but accepted by the Jews to re-establish the modern state of Israel. So much for the falsehoods of stealing of Palestinian lands



But what does that have do with anything being discussed here? You're really saying nothing, instead hiding behind smoke screens and flashing mirrors

In reply to InHindsight

what was accepted by the Jews, the resort to terrorism to drive the British out then turn against the very same people who gave them refuge by driving them out of their own homes

In reply to Brerzerk

Here you go lying again to paint your wicked agenda. The British were never forced out of Palestine. They left as you I am sure we'll know based on the partition plan.

As soon as the British Mandate expired on May 14th 1948, the Jew declared independence on what was apportioned to them. Immediately the day after, they were attacked by their Arab neighbours. The rest is history as they say

The better question is, can BiBi be stopped?

In reply to XDFIX

Whatever Bibi is doing is only to ensure the survival of the Jewish state. And currently it means to destroying Hamas

In reply to InHindsight

The British left Jamaica, Bahamas, Trinidad, B'dos name dem, after peaceful negotiations. Rabin's Haganah bombed the King David Hotel and carried out many a terrorist attack and mayhem on The British. Although from 1920 Arabs rioted in opposition to mass Jewish migration explain to us why then it was majority Jews by far that The British arrested, imprisoned, executed and or killed in conflicts and not Arabs/Palestinians?

The problem with so-called conservatives is that rather than win on policies or arguments they target and brian-wash low info persons who then actually believe what they spout...at least believe the lil they actually understand and just spout the rest to pretend they know.

In reply to Brerzerk

I suppose you're a student of history of the Jewish/Palestinian conflict and all knowledge on the matter repose with you. Anything that disagrees with your narrative is only pretense. Or maybe you lived in that era and experienced firsthand all that there is to know.


BTW I have researched extensively (and not for this convos) and found nothing near what you claim. On the contrary; so I'll dismiss as another of your usual fabrications

All I said is easily verifiable with due diligence

I have not read this thread but knowing who started it I have to ask a question: do you know your subject matter before you post?

Let's start with the basics: What is Genocide

In reply to InHindsight

Well, you are obviously a poor researcher; one unable to find even 70+ year old info. But hey as they say ignorance is bliss.
Usually, the loudest loudmouth in the bar usually think they are the smartest and most knowledgeable when instead they are
the most ignorant, cruel and oafish. Notice how many threads you start on matters you have little info or knowledge on?
Anyway, Selah! I'm out

In reply to Brerzerk

Guy I can't believe I am engaging in you in your diatribe.

Where on earth do you get your fallacious stories? You are full of deceit.

And you're audacious enough to suggest even that I start threads on things I know little about. Why can't you be real?

In reply to InHindsight

tell us (you have the go ahead to research subsequent to posting what you do not know) what a fallacy is. Trump said he liked a certain demographic.
I know ppl. who get only 4yrs of primary school but are highly educated.

In reply to Brerzerk

Are you contented with back n forth with no substance? You lefties tend to avoid the issues

How petty can you be? Scandalous like Trump

Was it The Jewish Haganah's terrorism that had The Brits pack up and leave or not?

In reply to Brerzerk

The British told you so???


Smh