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Congrats Evin Lewis

 
imusic 2024-09-02 05:47:41 

On the first century of this season’s CPL

Seeing no one else will start a thread to congratulate you

 
imusic 2024-09-02 06:18:36 

In reply to cumberland

Evin was way laid long before Dessie called him!

Correct

In a 3 match ODI series against Ireland in the Caribbean in 2020, Evin Lewis scored 99 not out in the first match and 102 in the 3rd match

Immediately following that series, the WI selectors met to select the ODI team to tour Sri Lanka in February 2020

They didn’t select Lewis or Hetmeyer because they didn’t pass the fitness test.

The chief selector?? Roger Harper.

Obviously, passing a fitness test is/was deemed to be more important than actual performance.

Priorities eh?

And if Allyuh think I lie…..CHECK IT OUT FOR ALLYUH SELF

That was effectively that for Evin Lewis’ West Indies career

 
Onionman0 2024-09-02 06:59:13 

Lewis should be integral part of all format......he has excel in ODI....one of the best in T20 ..... should be encouraged to open in test......

But this administration and management like to promote players........lickers.......

 
brians_da_best 2024-09-02 09:00:29 

In reply to imusic

He is 33 now, probably got one more shot at making it back to the team, but the big question is, does he even want it?

Most of these guys look at the CPL and regional 50 over as an audition for other franchises. They've already got what they needed from West Indies, i.e. an exposure to the international stage, and now all they care about is playing for franchises.

while form and fitness are both important, the question is why didn't Lewis work on his fitness like others in the squad did?

Why did he not make the team after the series against Sri Lanka? if he wanted to represent the region so bad, he would have found a way to work his way back into the team

 
Besar 2024-09-02 10:00:13 

In reply to imusic

If they have a set criteria for selection that they are all aware of, and refuse to adhere to. Then, because a person made 99 runs, we are prepared to bypass the set rules to accommodate them, isn't that setting a bad precedent? Down the road when others refuse to meet the criteria, how would it be justified to leave them out? Sometimes we just have to be big enough to give our youths good advice, to play by the rules. Every setting that we function in are guided by rules and regulations.

 
Chrissy 2024-09-02 11:57:38 

In reply to imusic
Good ton

 
XDFIX 2024-09-02 13:27:52 

In reply to Besar

Sometimes you have to violate the rules - the rules were made for man, and not man for the rules!

 
Jumpstart 2024-09-02 13:30:06 

In reply to imusic
mad dem music man

 
Jumpstart 2024-09-02 13:32:00 

In reply to brians_da_best

alyuh does come of with all sorts of rubbish to argue why your talentless frauds should not be dropped in favor of players who are actually....um....good

 
googley 2024-09-02 13:44:39 

In reply to imusic

Congrats indeed. Atleast Polly wasn't there to bowl a wide off the last ball to deny him the century

 
StumpCam 2024-09-02 13:48:38 

In reply to googley

lollol

 
granite 2024-09-02 14:12:10 

Allow me to imagine...Lewis and Narine opening for TT and Pooran at3,I mean TT not TKR

 
BeatDball 2024-09-02 15:02:55 

3 cheers for Evin...but, he's a hit or miss cricketer. I could be wrong & get his fans vex, but ah suh mih see it.

 
sgtdjones 2024-09-02 15:54:36 

In reply to granite

That means fireworks in the stadium.

3 exciting players .cool

 
sgtdjones 2024-09-02 15:55:35 

In reply to googley

Congrats indeed. Atleast Polly wasn't there to bowl a wide off the last ball to deny him the century


Watch it pandit....grrrr

 
sgtdjones 2024-09-02 15:56:27 

...

Mad em Lewis , do your thing, your way.

 
Halliwell 2024-09-02 16:04:01 

In reply to granite

Who batting 4 and 6 if Polly is 5? Terrence Hinds??!lol

 
Prako 2024-09-02 20:26:37 

In reply to sgtdjones

When I watched Fire in Babylon, they said they included WI in the Kerry Packer World Series knowing they were top players but not winners

Maybe Lewis can entertain but not win as well

 
natty_forever 2024-09-02 21:52:31 

In reply to brians_da_best

He looked like he was not fit to you?

 
imusic 2024-09-02 23:35:35 

In reply to Besar

If they have a set criteria for selection that they are all aware of, and refuse to adhere to. Then, because a person made 99 runs, we are prepared to bypass the set rules to accommodate them, isn't that setting a bad precedent? Down the road when others refuse to meet the criteria, how would it be justified to leave them out? Sometimes we just have to be big enough to give our youths good advice, to play by the rules. Every setting that we function in are guided by rules and regulations.

Let me see if I understand you correctly.

They played Ireland in January 2020. The final match of the 3 match series was played on January 12 2020. That was the match where Lewis scored 102 out of a total of 199 for 5 resulting in a WI win by DL method due to rain interruption.

Lewis was named Man of the Series and also WI highest run scorer in the series.

Unless the criteria you mentioned was not in place prior to the Ireland series, Lewis was obviously deemed fit enough to play AND perform outstandingly for his team in that series.

21 days……so 3 weeks later……WI selectors announced the team to tour Sri Lanka and dropped Lewis due to his inability to pass a fitness test.

So he was fit less than a month ago to be Man of the series and outperform everyone on a team that included the following:

Shai Hope
Brandon King
Nicholas Pooran
Kieron Pollard
Sunil Ambris
Romario Shepherd

But 21 days later, he not fit enough to go to Sri Lanka?

Here’s the message the selectors likely wanted to send:

Fitness is of critical importance and if you can’t pass the fitness test, you won’t be selected.

Here’s the message that was likely received:

No matter how good you perform, fitness takes precedence. So focus on passing the fitness test to be selected. Performance is secondary.

The selectors may have figured that they sent a clear message to everyone where fitness lies in the priority scale. And not even a Man of the Series is exempt.

Well they sent a clear message alright.

Given the size of our populations, we already scarce on world class, or potential world class resources. This is a virtual example of cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.

Well intentioned no doubt. Asinine in reality.

They doing the same thing with Hetmeyer. The difference is……Hetmeyer doh perform. Not anymore for WI anyway.

In today’s world, dem fellas DO NOT NEED WEST INDIES to earn a good living. They see what goes on. They see for every Pooran, there are a dozen Jermaine Blackwood’s, Fabien Allen’s etc

Doh talk fuh so called fans and their eternal criticism and vitriol.

We deserve what we get because is so we like it.

Evin Lewis

 
WIfan26 2024-09-03 00:16:25 

In reply to imusic

What was more disappointing in that entire situation is that Simmons & Pollard his countrymen were Coach & Captain what did they really think they were going to accomplish especially when they were picking Cornwall in Test Cricket!!!

 
natty_forever 2024-09-03 00:25:41 

In reply to granite

Blood we are now allowed to be Iittle insular as we will not be the West Indies at the Olympics.

 
natty_forever 2024-09-03 00:26:35 

It seems I am the only one salivating at the prospect of being at the Olympics.

 
powen001 2024-09-03 00:27:28 

In reply to imusic

I WAS gonna engage you on Poorans brilliance and dominance and yet...disappointing stumble at the proverbial finish line the other night...that FIRST TON was EASILY his to take.

but given your pavlovian responses to flags I fear that any decent chat may end up in distractions bout who like who and all that...

 
voiceofreason 2024-09-03 01:38:10 

In reply to Onionman0

I really do not understand how anyone could come to the conclusion because a player excels in T20 or ODI cricket he should open in Tests. It is the most perplexing conclusion how do you arrive at this?

Congrats to him on his ton!

 
Onionman0 2024-09-03 07:36:41 

In reply to voiceofreason

I really do not understand how anyone could come to the conclusion because a player excels in T20 or ODI cricket he should open in Tests. It is the most perplexing conclusion how do you arrive at this?





I fully endorse your observation that a player excelling in T20 or ODI should never be the criteria for red ball selection.......I myself oppose this......

But in case of Lewis, it's not his excelling in white ball only.......

He has played few First class matches.... average 30.....not bad considering West Indies....

Has very good ODI average of 36....

Modern test cricket is upgraded version of ODI....team scoring 5 runs or 4 runs per over.... West Indies opening pairs very defensive.....Lewis surely over period has shown ability to handle good pace....that 175 in England was master class....can play spin.....very rare in West Indies cricket.....

That's my take.... people calling for Hope.... but for me red ball cricket improvement....
Lewis
Bravo.... Bangladesh recently recalled Mushfiqur same age....Sri Lanka recalled Angelo ..
Hety
These three player can play pace and spin well equally...but all three has been sidelined due to hypocrisy,insult, insularity, personal grudges......

 
TanteMerle 2024-09-03 07:55:24 

In reply to Onionman0

I really don't like these kind of discussions, but...

Please go to YouTube and watch Lewis 175..

Now imagine test conditions and the bowlers setting a field, and maintaining a line.

I am not saying that Lewis will fail,
but the same argument that people using against Hope, can be used against Lewis.
When was the last time Lewis played any sort of red ball?
Hope actually played County Cricket recently.

Lewis may make a great test batsmen, but I have not seen anything to support that.
I saw evidence in King and Hope, limited red ball games.

I will say again, I would love to see Windies best squad in a test arena.

That means no Alzarri, no Braffit, no Tage, no Bonner, no Blaclwood.

Alzarri may make it after a long rest and restoration.
At this time, he is not bowling as he should given his experience.

 
Besar 2024-09-03 09:51:20 

In reply to imusic

21 days is a long time in the fitness circle. Sometimes we take these headlines at face value, but most times it is much more than that. The head selector at the time said as much as he could say publicly. Players have a responsibility in between series/tournaments to keep a certain level of fitness. I recall at a particular time when the WCB introduced a scheme where they contracted 15 players in each of the territories, and appointed coaches to coach them on a daily basis to keep in shape. The pay was quoted in $US dollars and was above the average public servant in the region. In particular cases, the coach(es) showed up early and on time each day, but the players were either very late, very very late, or did not show up at all; that was the pattern. So, behind the scene you never know what is happening. Some of the players involved in that scenario are still around.

 
TanteMerle 2024-09-03 10:08:48 

In reply to Besar

Bro I heard that before.

Remember that Fatwall and Gayle were given certain exemptions.

So it is not a certainty that every player had to pass the fitness tests.

That said: lack of fitness affect one's ability to concentrate etc..

 
granite 2024-09-03 12:35:31 

In reply to Halliwell

Narine
Lewis
Pooran
Jangoo
Goolie
Pollard
Hinds
Phillips
Charles
Hosein
Seales.
I think they can find another couple I am not aware of,this team looks good good enough but I'll hope the Bravos are willing to play,if so Goolie and Phillips goes.

 
Onionman0 2024-09-03 14:30:13 

In reply to TanteMerle

https://youtu.be/NoJeiofGLb0?si=JLoCR0xQ60LZ494d

Please go to YouTube and watch Lewis 175..

Now imagine test conditions and the bowlers setting a field, and maintaining a line.


commentary....

Icing on cake......

 
granite 2024-09-03 14:49:36 

Evin Lewis isn't Bajan???

 
granite 2024-09-03 14:54:14 

 
TanteMerle 2024-09-03 15:19:35 

In reply to Onionman0

I have watched that innings more than once on YouTube.
In addition to watching the game on live coverage.

I am sticking to my points.

 
TanteMerle 2024-09-03 15:26:36 

In reply to granite

In case your comments was aimed at me!

I support Ozz in international cricket, then Windies.

In Caribbean competitions, I support Guyana first.

As far as Bajan cricketers are concerned:
Give me Hope, Holder (who disappoints me), Roach (who I think is done), and Mayers
I have time for Greaves and Springer, but they are not in Windies first 11 for me.
I have time for Wickham, but he is not ready yet.

If I had to pick a Windies starting 11 in test, Only Hope and Holder would start.

 
BeatDball 2024-09-03 17:39:46 

In reply to TanteMerle Ooooh Tanty, you're a badjohn, aren't you?!! big grin

 
granite 2024-09-03 19:41:36 

In reply to TanteMerle

No TanteMerle,I have forgotten why I posted that little comment,anyway I respect your posts and you are one of my respected posters,I learn quite a bit from you.RESPECT!

 
granite 2024-09-03 19:47:01 

In reply to natty_forever

So we can start cussing each other,is long time me na cuss anybody.lol

 
TanteMerle 2024-09-03 23:44:37 

In reply to granite

Thanks bro. Respect.

 
Acid 2024-09-05 01:46:26 

Evin had a nice opportunity to pace himself like a Test batsman and fill his boots with runs tonight.

Maybe he prefers batting first than chasing

 
cumberland 2024-09-05 03:02:57 

In reply to WIfan26

Post of the decade.

Harper got stuck in 1980's mode with his fitness penchant. That he broadsided Hetmyer in the wash was pure snobbery.

But

I could not understand Phil and Polly's stance regarding Evin. Not only did the Windian sidelining hurt his international chances but if truly hacked his IPL appearances. He petered out of the reckoning. And thereafter saw his franchise opportunities thin out.

WI are our worst enemies.

 
WIfan26 2024-09-05 04:19:34 

In reply to cumberland

Insularity and bad mind the plague of WI cricket!!!

 
Acid 2024-09-18 11:39:22 

Evin is certainly going through a lean patch

 
positiveg 2024-09-18 12:59:15 

In reply to Acid

From last year

 
voiceofreason 2024-09-18 14:09:57 

Well this aged well.

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