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There are no great batsmen in T20 cricket!

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voiceofreason 9/3/24, 11:45:03 PM
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Great this, great that please go siddung.

Great Batsmen are only in Test Cricket! If you cannot master Test cricket you are no great!

Can I get a Amen?
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voiceofreason 9/3/24, 11:47:17 PM
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Half of the T20 Batsmen cannot tell you when last they saw 3 slips and a gully lol.
doosra 9/3/24, 11:54:02 PM
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please go siddung.


pulls chair (jumpy thing)big grin
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doosra 9/3/24, 11:54:37 PM
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Same for t20 bowlers?
voiceofreason 9/3/24, 11:57:35 PM
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In reply to doosraWell T20 bowlers yes they are great ones not the pelter though.
doosra 9/4/24, 12:00:08 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

So to clarify you can have great t20 bowlers but not great t20 batters?
imusic 9/4/24, 12:05:16 AM
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Maybe if a batsman from Leewards or Windwards were to first actually earn an IPL contract, and then be successful, then vor will change he tune
Jumpstart 9/4/24, 12:05:58 AM
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In reply to doosra

Dottie reasonings
voiceofreason 9/4/24, 12:41:09 AM
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In reply to doosra

Due to the game being so manufactured to favor batsmen yes if a bowler excels in this game he has to be great.
voiceofreason 9/4/24, 12:42:27 AM
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In reply to imusic

Our focus is on greatness. Great batsmen are not found in T20 cricket.

There is a reason why Pooran, Lewis and the like will never find themselves playing FC or Test cricket. It too hard for them and will expose their technical deficiencies.
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TanteMerle 9/4/24, 12:43:17 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Great this, great that please go siddung.


Amen and again I say AMEN.
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methodic 9/4/24, 12:48:59 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

So what if a great test player is a great t20 player
ducks 9/4/24, 1:24:31 AM
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In reply to methodic

He is a great batsman playing t20
methodic 9/4/24, 1:39:27 AM
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In reply to ducks

T20 is a different game than test. There can be great t20 batsmen. They don't have to be great in any other form.
voiceofreason 9/4/24, 2:26:50 AM
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In reply to methodic

He is a great test Batsman playing T20 as his greatness came from his exploits in Test cricket.

Great batsmen currently:

Root
Williamson
Kohli
Smith
voiceofreason 9/4/24, 2:29:18 AM
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In reply to methodic There are no great T20 batsmen. Mastery of T20 does not a great one make.

Give me 5 great T20 innings?
powen001 9/4/24, 2:37:05 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Good Posit.

AMEN!

Great STRIKERS OF THE BALL , sure.

Hand eye coordination- sure?

Greatness is batting for an entire day and over coming odds and winning matches ...so yes.

I accept your parameters.
methodic 9/4/24, 2:53:04 AM
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In reply to powen001
You have defined greatness in test cricket. Greatness in t20 is totally different.
methodic 9/4/24, 3:01:41 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Saying there's no great t20 batsmen is like saying there is no sprinter that is a great runner because he can't run a marathon.
voiceofreason 9/4/24, 3:02:49 AM
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In reply to methodic

Again there is no greatness in T20 batsmanship. I asked you a simple question to name 5 great T20 innings and you dodged the question. The T20 game is too short, too fixed to the advantage of batsmen to allow for any batsman to be considered great.

Pooran can never be great. Evin Lewis and Shai Hope will never be great as they have never exhibited greatness at the test level.
TheTrail 9/4/24, 3:08:30 AM
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In reply to ducks

In reply to methodic

He is a great batsman playing t20


He is a great test batsman who happens to be playing T20 lickit cricket.
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methodic 9/4/24, 3:12:31 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Again you are synchronizing t20 batting with test batting. It is two different disciplines. Gayle, Dhoni, Russell, Pollard and more have played five or more great t20 innings.
bravos 9/4/24, 4:46:52 AM
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What about test greats who wouldn't perform or are 'not suited' for T20s because of....um limitations ? What does that say about the format ? Could it be that T20 batsmen are just not suited for tests but can be great in their own right (format) ?
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Halliwell 9/4/24, 6:15:49 AM
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What about great captains in T20? Any of those?
4REALQUICKS 9/4/24, 11:16:38 AM
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Great is probably one of the adjectives most overused in modern times.

In terms of sports, it is thrown around like confetti.

The term should be reserved for those who perform at the highest level, for a sustained amount of time. Not some flat track bully in kiddie cricket whack-it-ball wearing pyjamas under flashing lights with cheerleaders. As a rule, if something is polished up to such an extent, the product is usually lacking. Think about that...for cricket is a thinking man's game...
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