Vivian shook Primus hand no one cried

Why did Sir Carl and Lara cry?

In reply to Castled

who is Primus?

In reply to doosra

You do believe in equality don't you douche?

In reply to Castled

You mean Primus = Hooper = Lara?

i was just che cking

Primus the chefette great... Viv was honored to shake his hand

The Great Man was ultra competitive and he only knew one way to get the best out of players. For some it worked while for others it didn't. Personally i do not like this approach but you cannot debate his success as a Captain.