CaribbeanCricket.com - mcc rules on yesterday's incident

Jumpstart 9/20/24, 6:49:18 PM

debut: 11/30/17
10,460 runs

This incident may have exposed a grey area in the Laws of the Game, as there is no explicit ruling on such an incident taking place. Law 31.7 allows the umpires to recall a batter who has left the wicket under the misapprehension of being given out, but in this case Imad had left only after being given out.

In addition, while the correct decision may have eventually been made, Pollard and TKR's case could be strengthened by the fact that the reversal of the TV umpire's initial decision was not made according to any due process, but simply on-the-fly.

https://www.wisden.com/series/caribbean-premier-league-2024/cricket-news/kieron-pollard-fumes-at-umpires-after-controversial-drs-reversal-of-match-winner-imad-wasims-wicket

doosra 9/20/24, 6:54:10 PM

debut: 5/26/04
94,417 runs

In reply to Jumpstart

what might "due process" entail in such cases?

WIfan26 9/20/24, 6:57:54 PM

debut: 5/1/21
2,449 runs

In reply to Jumpstart

So what if it was Pollard batting what would be your thoughts???

Bear in mind the batsman knew he hit it and also the original decision was NOT OUT!!!

So if we’re using technology shouldn’t we want to use it for the right decision???

ray 9/20/24, 7:04:44 PM

debut: 2/7/03
23,276 runs

In reply to doosra

going to court big grin

Speed100 9/20/24, 7:23:33 PM

debut: 8/30/23
301 runs

There shouldn’t be an argument why the batsman left the field. It’s bloody simple he was given out . If you are given out you go off . If you’re waiting on a decision and decide to leave the field the. That’s a different matter.

The right thing was done in the end .

Pollard and TKR need to move one

positiveg 9/20/24, 8:17:36 PM

debut: 3/29/07
24,775 runs

In reply to WIfan26

The umpire erred even though the technology clearly showed the ball hit the bat. So anything after that is mute.
Like what if the bowler had overstepped and the umpire still carried through with his decision. The umpire clearly made a bad call and right his wrong. Most the issues I see here is from supporters of TKR who just being mischievous and the rest being ignorant.
But to be honest I feel right call was made

WIfan26 9/20/24, 8:45:20 PM

debut: 5/1/21
2,449 runs

In reply to positiveg

Exactly the right decision was made!!!

Now if the umpire had given it OUT I would’ve have supported them with insufficient evidence and the decision goes back to the on field umpire!!!

But then again there was sufficient evidence to show the deviation off the bat!!!

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TanteMerle 9/20/24, 9:55:44 PM

debut: 2/22/04
8,195 runs

I don't know who else on this MB has any legal experience.

I guarantee you that if such matter went before a court of law,
the court would rule in favor of the batsman returning to the crease.

If you want, look up rues on interpretation of law, or statutory interpretation,
which are guides used by judges to settle disputes and interpret laws.
such as 'The Golden Rule', 'ejusdem generis rule', mischief rule, literal rule etc.

The misapprehension law (cricket law) would apply to this situation.
The correct decision was made last night.

I empathize with Pollard, but the correct decision was made.
I just don't understand how people on this MB don not see this.
It says something about your character.

voiceofreason 9/20/24, 10:14:49 PM

debut: 1/20/04
89,459 runs

In reply to doosra

In addition, while the correct decision may have eventually been made, Pollard and TKR's case could be strengthened by the fact that the reversal of the TV umpire's initial decision was not made according to any due process, but simply on-the-fly.

Is due process not reviewing the decision to overturn the call ?Do you not do that by replaying the video over and over again? On the fly ? I just thought the Umpires needed to be firmer and say decision made lets get on with the game!

Tek allyuh lixx and go siddung! ABF won fair and square!

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Halliwell 9/20/24, 10:21:39 PM

debut: 5/14/05
22,803 runs

When I pointed this out yesterday, the much maligned sarge was the only one to pick up on it.

It was much more fun to assume a done deal and sentence Polly and Simmo to death.

Them professional folks dealing with amateurs in skill and thought is probably so draining. Lara walked away because of it.

Halliwell 9/20/24, 10:25:10 PM

debut: 5/14/05
22,803 runs

In reply to WIfan26

So if we’re using technology shouldn’t we want to use it for the right decision???

but cricket doesn’t work like that does it?

When you hit the ball and get called out for LBW, and don’t have a review left you have to suck it up in Test cricket.

You guys who want to question a mankad rule are the same guys that support not walking until the ump sends you. Or appealing for an obvious not out LBW.

What are laws if not to create structure.

natty_forever 9/20/24, 11:00:36 PM

debut: 4/28/03
59,473 runs

In reply to Jumpstart

Simple solution. Review the Review.

natty_forever 9/20/24, 11:01:06 PM

debut: 4/28/03
59,473 runs

All this because of incompetence.

natty_forever 9/20/24, 11:01:41 PM

debut: 4/28/03
59,473 runs

Should be suspended.

WIfan26 9/20/24, 11:10:59 PM

debut: 5/1/21
2,449 runs

In reply to Halliwell

Yea that’s absolutely true but the Umpire in this situation gave it NOT OUT!!! Not to mention that there was conclusive evidence that ball hit the bat first!!!

So if the technology is being called upon shouldn’t it be used to bring about the right decision???

natty_forever 9/20/24, 11:19:49 PM

debut: 4/28/03
59,473 runs

Even Stevie W saw that.

natty_forever 9/20/24, 11:20:45 PM

debut: 4/28/03
59,473 runs

I saw it instantly and was so surprised when Ian Bishop concurred with the blimp.

cricketfreak 9/20/24, 11:34:54 PM

debut: 11/14/11
3,487 runs

Remember Bishop is trini .

granite 9/21/24, 12:10:45 AM

debut: 11/1/13
13,762 runs

In reply to positiveg

You are even more ignorant and mischievous as the Trini crowd,there may be more intelligent people in Trinidad to the square mile than whereever you from.You are totally out of order Trinis are not an ignorant people.

Halliwell 9/21/24, 12:13:24 AM

debut: 5/14/05
22,803 runs

In reply to WIfan26

Why didn’t you state he was given out after review?

WIfan26 9/21/24, 2:14:24 AM

debut: 5/1/21
2,449 runs

In reply to Halliwell

Because it clearly wasn’t out did you not see it hit the bat???

nick2020 9/21/24, 2:46:17 AM

debut: 7/2/12
28,787 runs

In reply to TanteMerle

I don't know who else on this MB has any legal experience.

If you want the best paralegal better call sudden

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