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Anybody willing to put Value on Sammys

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powen001 9/24/24, 11:18:48 PM
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MAN Management yet?

I asking cause the way the Kings dealt with us , The Royals and all others the past few matches indicates that Sammy is employing some extra science into this thing.

but what do I know-

yall think Coach Sammy bringing anything else....He has nt clapped much so it cant be that usual comment...

but let me stop talking and see if I making sense or not...according to the MB big grin
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Halliwell 9/24/24, 11:21:17 PM
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debut: 5/14/05
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In reply to powen001

No doubt about it

You get Sammy the right set of guys, he makes it work

Champion fella
sgtdjones 9/24/24, 11:23:41 PM
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debut: 2/16/17
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In reply to Halliwell

razzrazz
powen001 9/24/24, 11:26:04 PM
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In reply to Halliwell

see dat lololol.


so how come no other captains in recent times have been able to do what he has done?

with that same men or even better?

want me to dig up the stats orrrrr

big grin
powen001 9/24/24, 11:26:45 PM
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and further...appears to be doing here in this years CPL.


dont let your eyes deceive you.
WIfan26 9/24/24, 11:28:56 PM
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In reply to powen001

10am games, all Indian owned Teams. I thought it just had bookie written all over it!!!

But I’m willing to listen to your theory or be proven wrong lol
powen001 9/24/24, 11:51:00 PM
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In reply to WIfan26

HA HA HA HA .

theory?

which other coach you see as involved as Sammy whole tournament?

ah mean..I was waitin for one of you to say he gone from clapping to scribbling non stop.

Same sun burn up Kings burning up TKR and the rest..

And I watched over the match today-

TKR was dominated today and dare I say it outfoxed too-

Sammy has something about his overachieving unqualified uncertified self that just keeps on ....winning.

I would say dont underestimate him or the value he brings
Halliwell 9/25/24, 12:40:53 AM
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debut: 5/14/05
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In reply to powen001

You think Pep could take Guyana to the World Cup?

You think if you put Sammy in charge of Arsenal that he wouldn’t stop winning?

lol

Look, without any confusing qualification, Sammy is a borse
imusic 9/25/24, 1:18:51 AM
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In reply to powen001



but what do I know-

Nada
Castled 9/25/24, 1:27:32 AM
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Scammy couldn't take WI to quarter finals of T20 world cup after bragging WI will win the whole thing. The jury still out on Scammy.

What is excellent is Johnson Charles switch hitting man has wrists of steel. Gordon Greenidge invented switch hitting. Charles master it.
sgtdjones 9/25/24, 2:09:01 AM
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In reply to powen001

Do up the stats on the CPL....

With CWI he had a group of tremendously skilled players....
Even Boycott's mother-in-law could have won leading those teams

Leadership is shown when you have someone showing what needs to happen and then doing something about it by their skills...
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Jumpstart 9/25/24, 2:50:14 AM
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debut: 11/30/17
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In reply to powen001

Sammy is a rubbish coach with a script. The World Cup proved that
voiceofreason 9/25/24, 12:06:50 PM
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With CWI he had a group of tremendously skilled players....
Even Boycott's mother-in-law could have won leading those teams


Sour and ungrateful.

You could say that possibly if he won 1 World Cup but 2 no. Pollard - 0 World Cups as Captain. Bravo -0.

Sammy is the greatest West Indian cricket leader since Viv- Squeeze dat like a pillow and run with it! since the turn of the decade, five straight seasons we have made the playoffs with two final appearances. The nucleus of this team has been together for a while ie: JC, FAF, Aljo, Chase and Wiese.
Cheeks 9/25/24, 4:05:25 PM
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You only have to ingest some of the nonsense that has played out in the public, post worldcup wins to understand some of the crap behind the scenes that stymied Windies success in the past. It makes you appreciate (in a fair world), the desperate need for leadership that was required and what Sammy has been able to achieve.

Exhibit 1

Sextillion vs the Badmind DJ

Exhibit 2

Di Self Proclaimer v Di 'Snake'

These guys were their own worst enemies from a team perspective. They desperately needed the 'right' leadership. Sammy brought that. Who doan like it could lump it. No amount of sneaking around hoping for Windies to lose for a whole tournament and then showing your face when they actually lose can change the facts. Evidence trumps wishful thinking every time.

We came pretty close to a semi-final place in last worldcup too, we lost but, we had a bit of bad luck with the weather in terms of momentum in that RSA match...even so, it came down to the wire. I don't expect the haters to acknowledge it though.
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imusic 9/25/24, 4:13:35 PM
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Yeah…..we came close to qualifying for the 50 over World Cup too…..but barely lost when Scotland and Ireland scraped through against us cool
Cheeks 9/25/24, 4:40:45 PM
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In reply to imusic

Speaks to your secret confidence in Sammy. You expected a miracle so early in his tenure as coach. You're a closet fan.

You ever hear the saying...culture eats strategy for lunch? Well culture change takes time.

I live it everyday in my paid gig.
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TanteMerle 9/25/24, 5:51:11 PM
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So wait let me understand the thought process.

SLK winnings so it is because of de head coach Scammy.

De other Dottie team get cus-asses,
So Ambi is wha kind ah coach?

Asking fa a friend.

shock
sgtdjones 9/25/24, 5:52:23 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Sammy is the greatest West Indian cricket leader since Viv- Squeeze dat like a pillow and run with it! since the turn of the decade, five straight seasons we have made the playoffs with two final appearances. The nucleus of this team has been together for a while ie: JC, FAF, Aljo, Chase and Wiese.


If he is, so what did he win in the CPL?
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Jumpstart 9/25/24, 7:31:50 PM
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Viv wasn’t a good captain. Tactically one of the best captains ever but leading a cricket team is more than that. Sammy and Viv in the same convo bordering on blasphemy. Sammy had the best t20 players in the world available to him and most of the team had IPL and CLt20 experience behind them when we won the first World Cup. And Darren Ganga had already showed the West Indies how to beat international t20 opponents, down to the use of the leg spinner in the power play which was virtually unheard of as the idea had been abandoned since Martin Crowe had used Deepak Patel in the Power play in the 92 World Cup. Sammy is an imposter. He beat an NZ team rife with division, some of it racial in tests and that is his only claim to fame. Beating Bangladesh was supposed to happen, and we were embarrassed in England and lost to a poor Aussie side in 2012 at home
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Cheeks 9/25/24, 8:40:52 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Hahahahaha. Jumpy yuh'z a rell comedian bai.
Halliwell 9/25/24, 8:41:58 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

VOR

On the smaller stage where you don’t have ready made superstars to win rings for you in your sleep, your leadership is examined more closely

CPL titles:
Bravs- some
Polly- some
Sammy-none
Acid 9/25/24, 9:06:25 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Squeeze dat like a pillow and run with it!


You coming out with some classics these days lol
googley 9/25/24, 9:25:51 PM
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In reply to powen001

When I saw your headline I was not sure where you were heading it....I was expecting this....



Anybody willing to put Value on Sammys .....

Clapping!!! lol
Jumpstart 9/25/24, 9:37:07 PM
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Clapping!!!

dude is the greatest clapper of any cappo in cricket anywhere......come to think of it he's the only one. never saw waugh or ponting or clive or viv or chappel(s) or racist cronje do that. imran was way too aristocratic for clapping as well
nick2020 9/25/24, 9:40:55 PM
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In reply to powen001

but let me stop talking and see if I making sense or not...according to the MB


Sammy is hated here so what do you expect? A reasonable discussion?
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