debut: 11/30/17
10,957 runs
dude needs a therapist ASAP
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Alzarri's anger issues
debut: 11/26/06
62,099 runs
In reply to Jumpstart
Im hoping that mentally he makes the adjustment after the expected consequences here.
Bjorn Borg of tennis fame was a hot head that used to cuss everybody…until one day he went too far…and the ban shook him up so much that he learnt to manage that….Bjorn was known as THE coolest player of his era and his temper tantrums as a youth were forgotten- he performed and found that inner peace. I pray the same for Alzarri.
Im hoping that mentally he makes the adjustment after the expected consequences here.
Bjorn Borg of tennis fame was a hot head that used to cuss everybody…until one day he went too far…and the ban shook him up so much that he learnt to manage that….Bjorn was known as THE coolest player of his era and his temper tantrums as a youth were forgotten- he performed and found that inner peace. I pray the same for Alzarri.
debut: 3/18/05
236 runs
I was going to write my take, so i will do it here instead of starting a new one. I believe that his frustrations were not unfounded, only misdirected. When i saw they first over he bowled, I was elated because this they quality i expect from him on a consistent basis. Then, the public display of dissent toward the captain. It did not look good, but every situation creates a learning opportunity. There was a fast bowler pleading with his captain to cover the slip area. The wicket was lively and he was steaming up and saw the likelihood of edges through the empty slip area. The captain would not respond, because these days captain's tactics seemed standardized, and once it is T20 or ODI, it does not what the conditions of the wicket is, they spread out the field in defence. Yesterday when Alzarri was bowling, he needed much better attacking field. Captains have to be imaginative and respond to the conditions at the time in terms of field placements, bowlers used etc.. I do not condone his behaviour, he should have used the ball to direct his anger toward the opposition's stumps, and he was doing good at that. The captain managed the situation with mature calmness.
debut: 1/20/04
90,455 runs
In reply to Besar
Very good analysis. Hope is a great ODI batsman but as a Captain he at times lacks the initiative and the imagination. Aljo's boasts his best bowling figures at Kensington and the Captain should know that and take advantage of the great bowling conditions on offer by setting attacking fields. That 1st PP is crucial for either team to establish the advantage but fortunately we still managed to do so and we can only guess what could have happened had Aljo completed his spell. That delivery to get Cox what a brute! That should have inspired Aljo to continue to re-direct his anger on the opposition but by walking off the field he lost that momentum and fortunately it did not cost his team.
I believe he should be reprimanded , made to apologize to his team and let us move on. If the ICC has to punish him well nothing we can do about that.
Very good analysis. Hope is a great ODI batsman but as a Captain he at times lacks the initiative and the imagination. Aljo's boasts his best bowling figures at Kensington and the Captain should know that and take advantage of the great bowling conditions on offer by setting attacking fields. That 1st PP is crucial for either team to establish the advantage but fortunately we still managed to do so and we can only guess what could have happened had Aljo completed his spell. That delivery to get Cox what a brute! That should have inspired Aljo to continue to re-direct his anger on the opposition but by walking off the field he lost that momentum and fortunately it did not cost his team.
I believe he should be reprimanded , made to apologize to his team and let us move on. If the ICC has to punish him well nothing we can do about that.
debut: 11/13/02
79,183 runs
I think AlJo leaving the field was a great exercise in self control and consideration of team and career.
He was REALLY ANGRY!
So instead of doing to Hope what Polly did to Tino Best…he utilized his best judgement at the time knowing there would be consequences.
Basically, he opted to take short term pain for the long term gain of the team, WI cricket, and his career
WISE
He was REALLY ANGRY!
So instead of doing to Hope what Polly did to Tino Best…he utilized his best judgement at the time knowing there would be consequences.
Basically, he opted to take short term pain for the long term gain of the team, WI cricket, and his career
WISE
debut: 11/4/09
12,027 runs
ammy calls Joseph's behaviour to leave the ground 'unacceptable' during third ODI
West Indies head coach Daren Sammy has labelled Alzarri Joseph's behaviour during the third ODI against England as "unacceptable" after the fast bowler left the pitch following a disagreement with captain Shai Hope.
During the fourth over of the innings in Bridgetown, Joseph was unhappy with a field placement and could be seen remonstrating with Hope. Off the fourth ball, Joseph removed Jordan Cox caught behind, but did not celebrate with his team, instead immediately returning to his mark. At the end of the over, Joseph left the field unannounced and went into the dressing room, forcing West Indies to begin the fifth over with only ten fielders on the pitch.
"Behaviour like that is unacceptable on my cricket field," Sammy said to TalkSPORT after play. "We will be friends…but in the culture I'm trying to build, that's unacceptable. We will definitely have a chat about that."
Joseph returned to the pitch for the beginning of the sixth over, but did not resume bowling until the 12th. He bowled two more overs, before leaving the field again after two misfields off his bowling saw England gain two runs through overthrows.
Sammy, who was appointed as West Indies head coach in May 2023, is widely credited for his man-management abilities
"I pride myself on having the difficult conversations," Sammy said.
As a Manager, you are no longer friends. There needs to be that separation between Officer and Crew.
West Indies head coach Daren Sammy has labelled Alzarri Joseph's behaviour during the third ODI against England as "unacceptable" after the fast bowler left the pitch following a disagreement with captain Shai Hope.
During the fourth over of the innings in Bridgetown, Joseph was unhappy with a field placement and could be seen remonstrating with Hope. Off the fourth ball, Joseph removed Jordan Cox caught behind, but did not celebrate with his team, instead immediately returning to his mark. At the end of the over, Joseph left the field unannounced and went into the dressing room, forcing West Indies to begin the fifth over with only ten fielders on the pitch.
"Behaviour like that is unacceptable on my cricket field," Sammy said to TalkSPORT after play. "We will be friends…but in the culture I'm trying to build, that's unacceptable. We will definitely have a chat about that."
Joseph returned to the pitch for the beginning of the sixth over, but did not resume bowling until the 12th. He bowled two more overs, before leaving the field again after two misfields off his bowling saw England gain two runs through overthrows.
Sammy, who was appointed as West Indies head coach in May 2023, is widely credited for his man-management abilities
"I pride myself on having the difficult conversations," Sammy said.
As a Manager, you are no longer friends. There needs to be that separation between Officer and Crew.
debut: 11/27/06
53,690 runs
In reply to voiceofreason
That is certainly not true. King was in first slip when AlJo was remonstrating. He and Hope looked at each bemused at AlJo. No one seem to understand the reason for his anger
And how many if any balls were edged?
That is certainly not true. King was in first slip when AlJo was remonstrating. He and Hope looked at each bemused at AlJo. No one seem to understand the reason for his anger
And how many if any balls were edged?
debut: 1/20/04
90,455 runs
In reply to sudden
Perhaps he was asking for a 2nd slip? As a captain you don't wait for edges to happen then put in slips.
Perhaps he was asking for a 2nd slip? As a captain you don't wait for edges to happen then put in slips.
debut: 11/27/06
53,690 runs
In reply to voiceofreason
It didn’t appear that way. King was already in slip and I doubt a 2nd slip was needed and AlJo seemed to be pointing to the area of long off.
No one at Kensington understood what he was angry about.
Not even the players
It didn’t appear that way. King was already in slip and I doubt a 2nd slip was needed and AlJo seemed to be pointing to the area of long off.
No one at Kensington understood what he was angry about.
Not even the players
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debut: 6/22/08
13,877 runs
In reply to sudden
That boy just pissed that they took the vice captaincy away from him and gave it to King. Did you see how Alzharri slapped away King's hand when King was trying to calm him down?
And how often do we see anyone bowling with two slips in an ODI? That buy head just hard man, and he always seems vex. He could improve his image a lot by smiling on occasion
That boy just pissed that they took the vice captaincy away from him and gave it to King. Did you see how Alzharri slapped away King's hand when King was trying to calm him down?
And how often do we see anyone bowling with two slips in an ODI? That buy head just hard man, and he always seems vex. He could improve his image a lot by smiling on occasion
debut: 11/27/06
53,690 runs
In reply to Walco
During the warm up he seemed relaxed
In fact they seemed focused during the warm up
Was great to see
During the warm up he seemed relaxed
In fact they seemed focused during the warm up
Was great to see
debut: 6/22/08
13,877 runs
In reply to sudden
Interesting. That leaves the only possible reason for his outburst of anger. A horning revelation
Interesting. That leaves the only possible reason for his outburst of anger. A horning revelation
debut: 2/22/04
8,459 runs
With the ILP auction imminent,
what do you think that he just did to his chances?
Just an idiot.
plain and simple.
De man hardly ever smiles.
Not like he is a good bowler anyway.
I'm looking forward for them dropping his ass.
what do you think that he just did to his chances?
Just an idiot.
plain and simple.
De man hardly ever smiles.
Not like he is a good bowler anyway.
I'm looking forward for them dropping his ass.
debut: 11/27/06
53,690 runs
In reply to TanteMerle
Correct. He is piss poor and his pace and direction drop off after his first spell
Correct. He is piss poor and his pace and direction drop off after his first spell
debut: 11/27/06
53,690 runs
To be honest Shep is sweet too and bowls too short or too full
Forde isn’t bad but he gets ragged in the latter stages to the extent that his elbow relaxes too much
Altho Rutherford got licks he could be a useful bowler
Chase is a good fielder and useful spinner
The players all looked fit and focused as a group
Real nice vibes
Forde isn’t bad but he gets ragged in the latter stages to the extent that his elbow relaxes too much
Altho Rutherford got licks he could be a useful bowler
Chase is a good fielder and useful spinner
The players all looked fit and focused as a group
Real nice vibes
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debut: 3/29/07
24,933 runs
In reply to TanteMerle
So you wishing all that because of yesterday's incident. Yeah anyway, to me he should get reprimanded and either publicly apologise because his behaviour was in WI team uniform on the international stage then you move on.
Wishing for him to lose money because of this but you should know your angst with him.
The walking off the field was totally uncalled for even if to cool off he should of signaled that he was going to do so cause no one knew this they though he was just going back down to the boundary
I see Mark Butcher kept going at it, I wonder if it was an English player he would keep harping on it all game. Anyway the English lose and WI win and if WI keep this kind of intensity up we should be able to win the T20's as well. It's good to see our players fight, next time let it spill over more to the opponents than the teammates.
So you wishing all that because of yesterday's incident. Yeah anyway, to me he should get reprimanded and either publicly apologise because his behaviour was in WI team uniform on the international stage then you move on.
Wishing for him to lose money because of this but you should know your angst with him.
The walking off the field was totally uncalled for even if to cool off he should of signaled that he was going to do so cause no one knew this they though he was just going back down to the boundary
I see Mark Butcher kept going at it, I wonder if it was an English player he would keep harping on it all game. Anyway the English lose and WI win and if WI keep this kind of intensity up we should be able to win the T20's as well. It's good to see our players fight, next time let it spill over more to the opponents than the teammates.
debut: 8/9/14
18,404 runs
In reply to Jumpstart
I saw the video. Agreed with leader Sammy, "not acceptable." And very disappointing for a senior attack leader, the pushing away the hands of his team mate who came just to tend to him is akin to minor assault. And then walking off is akin to job abandonment.
At minimum, a small monetary fine and a 3 match suspension is necessary.
I saw the video. Agreed with leader Sammy, "not acceptable." And very disappointing for a senior attack leader, the pushing away the hands of his team mate who came just to tend to him is akin to minor assault. And then walking off is akin to job abandonment.
At minimum, a small monetary fine and a 3 match suspension is necessary.
debut: 11/30/17
10,957 runs
In reply to sudden
Fixed it. Alzarri have issues. Always angry and is not like Ambrose who was intense on the field but left that intensity there. Dude is troubled
he is angry
Fixed it. Alzarri have issues. Always angry and is not like Ambrose who was intense on the field but left that intensity there. Dude is troubled
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debut: 1/20/04
90,455 runs
In reply to positiveg
In reply to positiveg
Look Bro you should know this board by now and its members' proclivities. Now he doesn't smile and he cannot bowl, all kind a nonsensical ramblings. After 72 matches he has 117 wickets with an ave of 28.80. At Kensington in 11 matches he has 28 wickets with an ave of 16.89 and a s/r of 20.80 yet drop him as he is a useless bowler. Find a West Indian pace bowler with those kinds of numbers!
In reply to positiveg
Wishing for him to lose money because of this but you should know your angst with him.
Look Bro you should know this board by now and its members' proclivities. Now he doesn't smile and he cannot bowl, all kind a nonsensical ramblings. After 72 matches he has 117 wickets with an ave of 28.80. At Kensington in 11 matches he has 28 wickets with an ave of 16.89 and a s/r of 20.80 yet drop him as he is a useless bowler. Find a West Indian pace bowler with those kinds of numbers!
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debut: 7/20/14
16,266 runs
Immediately after the CPL incident with he & Hetmyer, they should have counseled him.
debut: 11/30/17
10,957 runs
In reply to voiceofreason
Well our pacers are relatively new. Shamar debuted last year, seales the year before. They haven’t been playing since 2016 like alzarri
Well our pacers are relatively new. Shamar debuted last year, seales the year before. They haven’t been playing since 2016 like alzarri
debut: 11/13/02
2,224 runs
In reply to Besar
even though the captain has the right to set the field how he wants, I would go with the field that the fella with the ball in hand wants, especially when he is experience
even though the captain has the right to set the field how he wants, I would go with the field that the fella with the ball in hand wants, especially when he is experience
debut: 8/9/14
18,404 runs
In reply to bird
That is not the point and not the issue:
See my comments above.
That is not the point and not the issue:
See my comments above.
debut: 6/22/08
13,877 runs
In reply to sudden
Interesting way of saying that Forde pelt a few yesterday
Forde isn’t bad but he gets ragged in the latter stages to the extent that his elbow relaxes too much
Interesting way of saying that Forde pelt a few yesterday
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