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the same way some of the Trini fans were dressed up in Indian colours while we played against India the last time they showed up.

Carry on you self hating morons. And don’t forget to party and mek noise.
Pay attention though - dem sending texts in the US about cotton fields. Keep an eye on di cane.

You disgust me- it’s not funny.

In reply to Chrissy

I saw it and thought about it and was like maybe is Jofra family so.

......

You are the biggest racist on this site ...
You taught students at UWI with such racist sentiments ?.

Are you aware of how many East Indians have visas visiting T&T and living on the island?
Let me educate your rass....

India and T&T signed business and economic links premised on agreements and joint venture partnerships, investments in financial services, pharmaceuticals, tourism, medicine, and visibility in conferences, trade fairs, and exhibitions. The Indian Diaspora in Trinidad and Tobago has thus graduated from indentureship to entrepreneurship. They constitute business magnates, entrepreneurs, manufacturers, and professionals representing in politics, law, medicine, academia, and the like. There may be no aspect of social, cultural, political, or economic life where Indians do not have an impact.

T&T Immigration has estimated that approximately 5,000 Indians from India are residing in T&T...PM Rowley was recently engaged a Billionaire businessman to take over the Oil Refinery
Check and see the Indian businessman who will be building a cricket academy in T&T.

With such numbers of Indians from India , they cannot wear the colours of their visiting team, huh?
Plus visitors travelling with the team..

But your senile racist rass can identify Trini Indians from the ones from India.

What a fcking ediot...

T&T gets help from India in digital transformation

PM meets Indian businessman interested in Petrotrin refinery

PM: Partnership with Mumbai Indians owners – Cricket academy coming to Trincity

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The fair, which started on May 21, ends to May 31. Some 34 of India's top manufacturers and exporters have set up shop here. Items can be purchased either in bulk at wholesale price or retail.

In reply to Chrissy

So what is the big deal? It is their democratic right to support any team they choose to support. Too bad our team couldn't give them something to feel sorry about!

In reply to positiveg

Chisse saw 5 people cheering for England and henceforth said Bajans were chering for England like the Indo_ trini and muddies have done when India is touring the WI.

In reply to Chrissy

They don’t run those jokes a yard!

I simply can’t understand it. Maybe on this board gang up on me on my views so I won’t say anything more on the subject.

Back in the day, Kensington Oval used to be fortress West Indies

Today, and for some time now, it’s just another home venue for England.

And CWI goes out of its way to facilitate that.

They don’t call Barbados “Little England” for nothing.

In reply to sgtdjones

I disagree with you, vehemently.

Are you saying from that long rass post with red herring links, that the peeps jumping up and down are Indian passport-holders?

I KNOW some of them! They are more Trini than Sundar Popo. The generation of Indo-folk who was vex Clive’s team couldn’t facilitate Rangy- do you know about them?

If you approached it from freedom to choose and democratic right etc then fine…

But don’t say they are ‘real’ Indians. That’s off topic.

how you know they were not british or expats or have familly in both countries black people can be british too .regardless it does not matter i forgot how stupid some caribbean people does be .

In reply to imusic
Shhhhhhhhh!

In reply to Chrissy

You are correct. That tiny group, they want to be call "Indo" Trinidadians did wear the India colors and supported India- It is alleged they were affiliated with GOPIO ideology. It appears to be a well orchestrated plan.

You know the vast majority of Trinidadians of South Asian ancestry not in to that crap. Morel likely in Guyana where the term "Indo" Guyanese is mainstream.

We have to be vigilant to guard against racism, I see it in social media and it is worrisome.

In Barbados, Archer is still given status as a homeboy in the cricket fraternity- this is plain wrong. When you leave one company to work for another, you don't get to go back to your old office and mingle and use the office computers, look at the books and customer's list and so on as if you still belong.

In reply to XDFIX
Years ago England was playing West Indies at Sabina(2009). Some English fans arrived early decided to put up one huge sign where we were sitting. We asked them nicely to take it down. They refused. I went straight to the police inspector and asked him if we could tek it down. He said yes. We laughed yuh see as we took it down and then the team - Onry, Ronnie and Taylor did di rest for us

nuff CCC peeps were at that match

Will never forget dat KP clataaax courtesy JT fi 1.

In reply to Emir

You are correct. Neither dem nor di Bajans cyan fool me.

In reply to Chrissy

That is pure Shoite

Those were black bajan Brits or so they sounded

In reply to imusic

Bajans just want the tourist dollar. Got to mek dem limies feel at home ya know. yes massa

In reply to defeyeant

Dat simple.
As a region the vast majority of us have abandoned any notion of society at the expense of the almighty dollar/pound/whatever or specific interests

In reply to Halliwell

The Evolution of Cricket Support in the Caribbean: A Cultural Shift

Halliwell, disagreeing is not a problem on this topic; using broad paint brushes shows a lack of knowledge by this poster.

Cricket is more than just a sport in the Caribbean; it is a vibrant tapestry woven with history, culture, and identity. The journey of cricket in the West Indies, particularly the intricate relationship between Indian and Caribbean identities, has undergone profound changes since the mid-20th century. The sentiments surrounding cricket have evolved, reflecting broader socio-political dynamics and a gradual shift in allegiance and identity among the cricket-loving populace.

Cricketing conditions in the West Indies were very different in the 1940s. Indians who had migrated to Trinidad and Tobago and other Caribbean nations initially maintained a strong connection to their ancestral homeland. This bond was not solely based on cricket but encompassed a broader cultural allegiance. The early Indian supporters viewed cricket as a means to celebrate their heritage while simultaneously integrating into the Caribbean fabric. The likes of Sonny Ramadhin and later, the emergence of players such as Kanhai, Rampaul, Ramdhin, and Pooran began to shift perceptions. While these players remained rooted in their Indian heritage, they became symbols of a burgeoning Caribbean identity, bridging gaps and fostering a sense of unity among diverse communities.

As the 20th century progressed, significant changes began to take shape. The incorporation of Indian players into the West Indies cricket team marked a pivotal moment, as it allowed for shared experiences and collective pride. This melding of cultures was a reflection of the complex social dynamics at play. The emergence of cricketing legends like Brian Lara and Dwayne Bravo further solidified this transformation, as they not only represented the West Indies but also inspired a new generation of players and fans drawn from various backgrounds.

The subsequent generations of Caribbean cricketers and fans , particularly in Trinidad and Tobago, began to identify more closely with their Caribbean identity than with their ancestral roots. The passion for cricket transcended ethnicity and often eclipsed national origin, giving rise to a unique sporting culture. Due to the globalization of cricket and the achievements of regional players, the shift did not happen overnight.

Caribbean cricket has a dynamic and diverse image nowadays. Players like Gayle, Pollard and Pooran embody this new wave of cricketing talent, capturing the hearts of fans across the region and beyond. The attachment to the mother country, once strong, has evolved into a more complex relationship where support for Caribbean teams often takes precedence over national allegiances. This shift is evident in the fervent support that teams receive during international matches, where fans travel across continents to cheer for their players, regardless of their ethnic backgrounds.

The essence of democracy is grounded in the freedom to choose, and this principle resonates deeply within the realm of sports. Cricket, as a reflection of societal values, showcases how individuals can embrace multiple identities and loyalties. The choice of whom to support is a personal journey, often influenced by the narratives surrounding players and teams. For many Indians residing in Trinidad and Tobago, the decision to support the West Indies cricket team stems from a desire to celebrate local talent and foster community spirit.

Conversely, it is essential to recognize that the diaspora maintains a connection to their homeland, often supporting the Indian cricket team during international fixtures. This dual allegiance does not negate their commitment to West Indies cricket; rather, it enriches the sporting experience. Cricket is celebrated as a global sport in a lively atmosphere created by fans interacting with both teams. The camaraderie among fans, regardless of their backgrounds, exemplifies the spirit of unity and respect that cricket can inspire.

The evolution of cricket support in the Caribbean is a testament to the region's dynamic cultural landscape. The journey from a singular allegiance to a more inclusive and multifaceted appreciation of cricket highlights the power of sport to transcend boundaries. As we observe the emergence of fresh talent and the shifting fan demographics, it is clear that cricket is more than just a game; it is a potent tool for forming, reshaping, and celebrating identities.

The changing tides of support reflect a broader social evolution, illustrating how sports can serve as a unifying force. As cricket continues to evolve, it will undoubtedly remain a cherished aspect of Caribbean life, binding together diverse communities while celebrating the rich tapestry of identities that define the region. The future of Caribbean cricket is bright, filled with potential and promise, as fans continue to embrace the freedom to choose whom they support, fostering a spirit of camaraderie that transcends borders.
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To post what she did is ignorant racist and shows senility.

In reply to sudden

No. They were people living in Barbados- Bajans who supported England because a few of the English players because they were born or have lived in Barbados. That support came at the expense of West Indies.

Now we are hearing that Archer has facilitated Mahmood early arrival in Barbados- way before the English team arrived so he can train and get to know the conditions.

Archer also got him a spot in a local team at the expense of a Barbados player.

THIS IS MADNESS

In reply to sudden

What is saw was a group of 6 or 8 people cheering , yet Chrissie is reporting a different story.

In reply to XDFIX

Please ?

What is the this, the new Cricket "MAGA" attitude? Why anyone can't support any team? I didnt realize fans have to support their home teams!! What happened to freedom of choice?

In reply to Chrissy

Quite true but I'm coming to terms with the fact (especially after last Tuesday's results) that most people just trying to survive these days and dont have the time or the luxury of acting in the best interest of society.

In reply to Chrissy

How many of your siblings are living in the region?

In reply to Halliwell

The red herring links are what your hero, the Rowley Administration, is contemplating.

Your support for Rowley, Imbert, Hinds and Gary Sobers jr shows...

Being critical of such links will classify you as I am, not supporting an afro-leader in T&T. Ask the originator of this thread.

This should be obvious in any democracy: we have options.

In reply to imusic

When God made that Island, he knew Barbados would not have the resources like Guyana, Jamaica or T&T, but the sun and sea would provide the resources for its people.
God bless Bim.

Be reminded that both Bethell and Archer still have family and friends who would naturally support them. I am positive that is who was seen. However, in recent times, West Indians have not been purchasing tickets to attend cricket matches (this may be tied to their poor performances), so CWI sold the bulk of the tickets to Barmy army and other England supporters. Barbados also has a large English expat group.
I do not support any player choosing to represent another country in a sport we play, and I do not apologize for that position. I don't count Salt, even though he grew up here he was not born in Barbados but in Wales so in my mind is free to play for England. I have said before that I hope Bethell and Archer like all England Players have a miserable tour, make little runs and take little wickets.

Cheer fi who yuhwant but drop di damn pretense about giving a damn about the region the team etc.

In reply to Chrissy

Wow. I'm still trying to figure out how you know these spectators were Bajan. You must know for sure before you spewed such vitriol at them. Perhaps you are talking about the 2 or 3 young black women I saw with England shirts on. I never saw them before so I cannot say whether they are Bajan, English, African or for that matter Guyanese. I do know having been to the cricket on previous days that the bajans (based on accents or familiarity) I saw were cheering for West Indies even as we struggled. I went there with my cousin who was visiting from England and has lived there for some 40 years. As a proud West Indies supporter he would be saddened if what you said was true but even more disheartened by your invective employed in addressing the matter.

It would be upsetting to me too if Barbadians were cheering for an opposing team but its disappointing that you would using the type of language that itself fuels the fire of anti-Bajan bigots like Imusic. Bigotry does not emanate only from our former colonial masters. Some of the worst bigots preoccupy themselves with tearing down their own.

In reply to Logic

Bro people that spew thst kind of filth dont deserve to be responded to .

In reply to openning
None but when they go to Bim fi cricket they cheer for the West Indies and that includes the one born in di US

In reply to openning

Finally I seeing Guyana getting some respect

Prior to 5 years ago, people in the Caribbean used to treat Guyanese worse than a stray dog.

In reply to Prako
hoss trinidad write off all the debts guyana owed to TT.

In reply to Prako
That is true. Now some of the worst Guyana haterz looking wuk in Guyana.
Loyalty to money

I was in Barbados three times during the World Cup and English series; you could not find the Pride or CWI jerseys, where are all these jerseys that the prof is seeing coming from?

In reply to Prako

chicken curry and nuff nuff Oil.

In reply to Prako

You must be young. Decades ago Guyana was the land of milk and honey. Thats why there are so man Brathwaites still there

One could use placards/posters to show support fir individuals/ family members separate from cheering fir the visiting team.. I saw Yardies big up Dean Headley, Ntini and others but cheered racously for WI

In reply to Brerzerk
Simple bro

In reply to Chrissy

Look wunna barely like um, how come wunna ent see that every time Salt and Bethel hit a boundary the Bajan flags and West Indies flags were the flags waving, what is wrong with people supporting who they want to support, that is a right to defend, the British press and photographers will show what they want the people in England to see……bajans will always support Jordan, Jofra and Jacob regardless who tek the responsibility for their advancement, so go and drink some water and mind wunna rh business……Barbadians they all are regardless…..

In reply to cherri

or boycott

In reply to cherri

Well said tell them

In reply to cherri

Thank you.

In reply to velo

BS WI cricket is every WI bizniz
Explain what waving a WI or Bajan flag has to do with an Englishman hitting a boundary. When Greenidge hit fours did the union jack get raised? When Small took wkt did WI flag guh up? Defraites, Dominican flag?
WI defending retrograde steps. Know ah gonna get cuss an' called pot 'salt' (pun intended) and newbie but I too doan give a RH when truth is to be told.

In reply to Brerzerk

People did get blue vex when Dwayne Bravo was reported to say T&T first then WI.

Same peeps now see nutting wrong wit wavin flag fuh English Bajans & English players that were once upon a time temporarily resident in Barbados, playing AGAINST West Indies IN the West Indies

Wurl nuh level

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What an arsenine statement from the senile originator of thread..

In reply to sgtdjones

Assinine unless you intended a slight such as
(Arse-inine). Now, whether or not you did you are going to say you did.

In reply to Brerzerk

tell me did we use flags in past days. You post on another thread that yardies "Big up " J'cans players in the past , is there a difference between 'big up and cheering.

It's only recently that i know the meaning of "big up'.

When Bim played BG/ Guyana in the early 60's 49 % of the fans at the oval cheer for BG/ Guyana was this wrong.

What I saw on the 2nd T20 was a small group of amount 10 women and children cheering as the English captain hit a six and members of the Jacobs family and friends party cheering for Jacobs.

In reply to imusic
Correct is right

In reply to imusic

What about 1/2 Queens Park cheering for India, any comments .

In reply to douche

In reply to tc1

You obviously haven't read through the whole thread of the post

In reply to tc1

Big Up-special acknowledgement, ball guh to dem men cheer, nowl a bouncer men cheer. If bouncer got hooked guess who men cheer for? Malcolm. Ntini, Dean walk out to bat, big roar as if it was Big Cat
Gooch walk out? No Cheer. Yuh flag mention is a red herring

In reply to Brerzerk

Stop it man, the same thing, Are you not the same people that brought a White Australian and made cricket captain of Jamaica and had the good professor going crazy?

In reply to tc1

Breddrin a poll in Jamaica show Yardies prefer to be subjects of King Charles and the privy council than a republic.

Little England Bim said NO to all that bullshyte and raise the flags of the republic and ccj

In reply to Brerzerk

In reply to Castled

In reply to tc1

If Dallas Cowboys can be called America's team, what should the Barbados Pride be labelled?
Just check the number of Barbadians playing on all teams in the CPL and the ones contracted for regional tournaments

In reply to openning

In the past we could labelled as the supreme of cricket, however for the past 25 years Bim struggle to dominate consistently the region.

In reply to tc1

Even not winning, the team is consistently among the top three in Red Ball.
I was shocked seeing Barbadians playing on all teams in the CPL, especially a youngster opening for TRF.

In reply to openning

Parris strikes the ball cleanly and should be in the team red ball cricket, another player is 'Easy Kev'.

In reply to tc1

I hope to see Carty, Greaves and Wickham selected for the Bangladesh series.
A U19 allrounder caught my eye this year, I would enjoy seeing him next regional for the Pride.
Bim seems to be producing too many players that are neither bowlers nor batsmen.
Guys like Nyeem Young and Springer. should concentrate on his batting, they should develop one area.

In reply to openning

Too many bits and pieces allrounders in Bim at the moment.

Bim have always had many allrounders. Most of us have to learn all areas of the game to play. One skill usually overtakes at some point though. Guys are just identifying their strong points later in the process. That also is a testament to the fact that they play too little cricket at younger ages

In reply to seaegg99

T[b]hat also is a testament to the fact that they play too little cricket at younger ages

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I am not sure about the above statement, our youths play more cricket than in the past, in the past there was not any u13 or 16, all of us played u19.I remember as a 13 + player was forced to play against Cawmere team which had all u20 players. Including Sudden.
Today we play more organized cricket and many of our youth are exposed to touring places like the UK, SA etc . What has happened is IMO is the lack of good coaches, and I think our so call legends have failed us in this regard.

In reply to Chrissy

Book sense is not common sense.
Hope that you are satisfied with the responses.
Racism raised for no apparent cause, reason and rhyme.
We can learn to lose gracefully versus lashing out at spectators and their individual support.
Everyone is free to support the team of their choice.

In reply to tc1

Cricket used to be played on any open space in Bim back in the day. I still remember playing in the village streets and knowing if you hit the house right in front of you on the full you were out. Simple things on footwork and hand eye coordination you developed when young. A youth with say KB skillset would be peppered with short pitched bowling, even with the wind ball, until he developed some way of countering it. Yet these youths now reach high level cricket with weaknesses that should have been ironed out before.

Yes more touring and the like but how much cricket outside of school do you see in Bim when you are there? WI never used to complain about surfaces because you played on any kind of surface you found to play on. You just adapted your game to the surface and surroundings.

In reply to seaegg99

On my visit to Bim a couple years ago, the only kids I saw playing cricket were the kids about 11 years at my gf family place, her nephew and niece, I joined them and 'pelt' a few and I was surprised to see that the girl was a better player than the boy.
Yes, you right that we played more village cricket as kids growing up and had to respond to short pitch bowling and bowling at your leg which taught you to play off the pads with authority. KB and many other could survived under those condition.

In reply to tc1

You can compare the development of players who have left the Island and become pros in England.
Every one of them becomes a student-athlete.

Cricket on the Island is still at the amateur level. None of the 19-year-olds are student-cricketers, who spend 4 hours on education and 3-4 hours on cricket development.
Jacob Bethell is paid to play cricket for Warwickshire, and Kevin Wickham pays Empire to play.
Cricket is a professional sport.
One of the various reasons why Barbados has not produced a truly great in over 25 years.

In reply to openning

It would be very difficult to implement a professional set up in Bim as the small economy might prohibit it on a full scale, if a good amateur program is in place at local level and we continue to give national contracts to 15-20 players per year, we might become competitive. For e.g. the NCAA is an amateur system until recently.