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HEADLINE: Chase to bolster Pride squad for semifinal clash

 
CaribbeanCricket.com 2024-11-19 14:26:14 

THE BARBADOS Pride will have the services of West Indies all-rounder Roston Chase when they face defending champions Trinidad & Tobago Red Force in the first semifinal of the Regional Super50 tomorrow.

Chase was previously unavailable, as he was part of the West Indies squad that played England in the just-concluded One-Day International and T20I series which ended on Sunday.

While Chase’s addition will be welcomed, Barbados will be without their captain Kyle Mayers as well as Kadeem Clarke, who have been granted leave to take part in the upcoming Abu Dhabi T10 tournament.

“The national selection panel has confirmed that Roston Chase and Shian Brathwaite will join the Barbados Pride squad as replacement players for Kadeem Alleyne and Kyle Mayers respectively,” the Barbados Cricket Association stated in a press release yesterday.

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openning 2024-11-19 15:36:28 

Nathan Sealy will join the Barbados Pride as the replacement player for Jomel Warrican who was recently named in the West Indies

 
PalsofMine 2024-11-19 23:51:36 

Are Lewis and Pooran playing for TT to even up that imbalance? Chase is likely to be much more useful than Myers was

 
imusic 2024-11-19 23:54:10 

In reply to PalsofMine

Chase = Lewis and Pooran?

Damn! shock

 
PalsofMine 2024-11-20 00:00:00 

In reply to imusic

Hahahaha. Probably. Remember what he did to TT in the regionals?

 
anthonyp 2024-11-20 10:27:06 

In reply to PalsofMine

Pooran and Lewis heading to Abu Dhabi.

Chase will most likely be available for one match... he will be playing in the GSL.

 
velo 2024-11-20 11:55:35 

Chase was once a decent batsman but t20 really messed him up

 
Jumpstart 2024-11-20 13:02:32 

In reply to velo

chase was never a decent batsman. looked okay sometimes on slow low wickets in the west indies. looked awful like most of the other wi players when he travelled. I mean he does not average over 30 in test cricket or odis.

 
anthonyp 2024-11-20 13:09:44 

In reply to Jumpstart

Chase was never a batsman? The dude got a FC average of 43... how many batsmen in the region got a 40+ average?

You calling for Goolie, Jangoo and Greaves to be Kraigg replacement in another thread... which one of them got a better FC average than Chase?

Yes to date he underperformed at the international level but yuh can't seh d man was never a batsman when his numbers are better that all de guys you calling to be in the squad.

 
Jumpstart 2024-11-20 13:14:30 

In reply to anthonyp

The dude got a FC average of 43

he averages 26 in tests, 25 in odis after 49 test matches and 42 odis. #rubbish

 
anthonyp 2024-11-20 13:17:01 

In reply to Jumpstart

Lol does that change the fact that the guy got a FC average of 43?

Did you miss the part where I mentioned that he has underperformed at the international level to date?

Greaves got a FC average of 27.. the others low 30s.

 
Jumpstart 2024-11-20 13:21:23 

In reply to anthonyp

ol does that change the fact that the guy got a FC average of 43?

our fc competition is absolute rubbish. it falls right in the middle of the west indies away tours and as a result, the best players are never available. its a toss up between the upcoming players like jangoo and co and the dregs like devon smith and verasammy permaul.

Did you miss the part where I mentioned that he has underperformed at the international level to date?

hooper and samuels underperformed. they average 36 and 38 respectively. 26 aint underperforming breds. that is being found out

 
anthonyp 2024-11-20 13:36:29 

In reply to Jumpstart

So if the FC competition is rubbish and those guys still can't average in the 40s... do you honestly think they will do better at the international level?

As for Hopper and Samuel's... the region isn't producing talents like that anymore so we need to lower our expectations. If a WI batsman average over 30 these days at the international level it's considered nuff.

 
openning 2024-11-20 13:36:36 

In reply to Jumpstart

Can you list the names of the great International players the region produced in the last 25 years?

 
Jumpstart 2024-11-20 14:00:20 

In reply to openning

sarwan and gayle both average over 40. They played in the last 25 years. Darren bravo, after a CWI-induced stop-start still averages more than kraigg, hope, chase...all the passengers he was carrying while there. Marlon samuels, despite his 36 career average, averaged just under 50 for the last 6 years of his career from 2011 t0 2016, scoring runs against the very best attacks as well as the mediocre. in fact in 2011 and 2012, marlon could lay claim to being one of the best test batsmen in the game

 
velo 2024-11-20 14:02:53 

In reply to Jumpstart
But does have five test centuries

 
Jumpstart 2024-11-20 14:12:17 

In reply to velo
which means that wen he doesn't score a hundred, he scores nothing if his avg is 26. 5 hundreds in 90 innings is exceptionally poor

 
openning 2024-11-20 15:13:37 

In reply to Jumpstart

sarwan and gayle both average over 40. They played in the last 25 years. Darren bravo, after a CWI-induced stop-start still averages more than kraigg, hope, chase.


I consider Gayle great, Sarwan above average, and I will not discuss Darren.
With over a thousand cricketers that have represented the territories in the last 25 years, you named three and continue to pair Barbadian cricketers' stats to get your point across.
I asked you this question during this year's CPL: Why are Barbadian cricketers being selected more than any other region on regional teams, with Barbadians contracted on every team in the CPL?
In 1975, one of the greats reminded me that cricket in Barbados is an amateur sport. Having played in the BCA, I got it.
Clubs rely on membership dues, once you can afford it, you don't have to worry about being dropped.
There is no competing for playing positions within the club structure anymore; a player just moves to another club.

Promotion and demotion are good with large populations. Also, an Elite and 1st division will add nothing to the product; it is just bragging rights for the old members of the clubs.
Barbados cricket will rise again.

 
Jumpstart 2024-11-20 15:26:55 

In reply to openning

With over a thousand cricketers that have represented the territories in the last 25 years, you named three and continue to pair Barbadian cricketers' stats to get your point across.

they are mentioned because only two other players in the last 25 years have played a similar amount of tests...ganga played 48 and devon smith played 43. hinds played 43. and devon smith, hinds and ganga oscillated around gayle so they rarely had uncontested extended runs in wi colors. for example, ganga looked good in South Africa in 1998, even if the runs weren't there, but found himself out the team in favor of lincoln roberts, dave joseph and suruj ragunath(a team jimmy adams said was given to lara who was told to captain it or else) for the next series versus Australia months later. Because of politics, and west indies exiling an entire generation of players, hope, kraigg and chase got extended runs. Kraigg himself was fourth in line when he first came into an understrength wi team:bharath, gayle and powell were all before him.

I asked you this question during this year's CPL: Why are Barbadian cricketers being selected more than any other region on regional teams, with Barbadians contracted on every team in the CPL?

maybe because they're cheap. i certainly don't understand how Shaqkere Parris could play for TKR when both jangoo and goolie were available. And on that topic, TT for years was keeping cpl afloat: evin lewis played one season with tkr, rayad emrit never played for tkr, neither did jon russ jaggessar. pooran took almost a decade to return to tkr. ramdin, simmons, perkins and narine were with GAW for years

 
openning 2024-11-20 15:42:51 

In reply to Jumpstart

TT for years was keeping cpl afloat:

Is the CPL not a private entity?
Please explain.

 
Jumpstart 2024-11-20 16:02:02 

In reply to openning

every team had trinidadians because the ct20 was so uncompetitive and the competition would not be taken seriously if every team did not maintain a particular standard. of the xi that played the final of the last 2013 CT20 in february 2013, only three played for the red steel when they debuted that year: the two bravos and badree.

 
openning 2024-11-20 16:30:41 

In reply to Jumpstart

We all watched the Standford series.
What I learned during that time was the unprofessionalism of players.
Stanford, who owned the Antigua team, set up rules like in the USA sporting affiliations, it got so bad with players owning the Antigua franchise every month that they had to stop the rules.

 
Castled 2024-11-20 17:10:40 

In reply to openning

Weak Bim team for semifinal Chase is lone quality player surprise if tits don't win semi easily.

Where JHO, Hope etc. Bim teams are less of a force year by year. Why compete if not in it to win it.

 
openning 2024-11-20 17:21:52 

In reply to Castled

Where JHO, Hope etc.

Injured.
It is time to move away from Raymond Reifer; he brings no value to the product.

 
Drapsey 2024-11-20 17:54:39 


Even worse, the Bajans and the Tits 'clash' in a semi-final match and there is no thread cover.

 
Discourse 2024-11-20 18:20:21 

Weak Bim team for semifinal Chase is lone quality player surprise if tits don't win semi easily.

Lol...Bolster indeed.

Bim 121/0 (19 ov)

Mc Caskie 81*
Boucher 30*

 
openning 2024-11-20 18:41:16 

Let's hope Reifer doesn't slow down the progress made by the two openers.

It is good to see Boucher, the first Barbadian player to have roots in Biiby's Lane.
I knew his Great great great grands to his grandmother.

 
imusic 2024-11-20 18:55:13 

In reply to openning

I knew his Great great great grands to his grandmother.

You really ole no ass yes big grin

 
Discourse 2024-11-20 19:12:29 

In reply to imusic

I knew his Great great great grands to his grandmother.

BREAKING NEWS!!! This forum never fails to amuse.
You really ole no ass yes

lol

 
Jumpstart 2024-11-20 19:55:39 

In reply to Discourse

they were in a si milar position last game and jangoo didn't allow the game to get close. they couldn't even out ottley

 
openning 2024-11-20 20:55:54 

In reply to Jumpstart

Let's talk after the game.
Jangoo and Ottley, are they Alvin Corneal and Larry Gomes?

 
Discourse 2024-11-20 21:00:40 

In reply to Jumpstart

Then if the 2 games remain similar, would surely be a damn good game.
Opening disagrees tho. Lol

 
openning 2024-11-20 21:03:56 

In reply to Discourse

He, like most of you, hails performance du jour when were the two players mentioned ever stood up and bat?

 
voiceofreason 2024-11-20 21:21:57 

Barbados Pride 339/7 .

Mccaskie 94
Boucher 69
Refier 64
Chase 43 off 31.

Deyal 10 overs 4/53.

 
Discourse 2024-11-20 21:24:44 

In reply to openning

Lol…for your reading pleasure. I don’t think RF will get close. But just opining here.

 
voiceofreason 2024-11-20 22:07:57 

In reply to Discourse

66/1 after 9! Far from over!

 
Discourse 2024-11-20 22:14:20 

In reply to voiceofreason

Correct

 
velo 2024-11-20 22:41:30 

scorecard pressure

 
voiceofreason 2024-11-20 22:45:50 

In reply to Discourse

Uh oh:

101/4 after 19.

Goolie and Rajah need to repair this innings.

 
voiceofreason 2024-11-20 23:00:59 

119/5 Gollie gone! This could be a short day! Pad up Bravo!

 
voiceofreason 2024-11-20 23:06:37 

131/6 after 25. Night night for the Red force! Bajans have exacted revenge emphatically and when it counted! Need a miracle here or for Chrissy to back the Pride lol.

 
velo 2024-11-20 23:43:51 

This match is done

 
powen001 2024-11-20 23:44:09 

Bryan Charles

NO LARA

lol

Duck

180/9 chasing 340.


even VOR cant save them now

 
Discourse 2024-11-20 23:45:19 

In reply to voiceofreason

9 dung.

 
powen001 2024-11-20 23:46:09 

In reply to openning

on a serious note though Opening- my Dads eyesight is barely hanging on.

You can still see the cricket ball live or on screen?

not being cheeky , I am quite serious

 
voiceofreason 2024-11-20 23:46:46 

In reply to powen001

Dis done! See you all in the finals!

 
TanteMerle 2024-11-20 23:46:57 

I just got home and see de Tits 180 fa 9.

One great thing is that the Trini commies sound somber.

Lots of long periods of silence.

Great fa he.

 
powen001 2024-11-20 23:51:23 

In reply to voiceofreason

aight bra.


BOWLED HIM!!

Middle stump GAWN!!!

all out!!

 
TanteMerle 2024-11-20 23:51:46 

 
powen001 2024-11-20 23:52:41 

In reply to voiceofreason

not to give you too much homework but

I am keen to see who you would flag as promising to keep our eyes on - post final.

 
granite 2024-11-21 00:00:03 

In reply to TanteMerle

Sad fuh me too but best of luck to Bimshire Pride,I still think that VOR's LI has the edge,well played Bim.

 
powen001 2024-11-21 00:03:37 

In reply to granite

dat Bajan VOR got in there is the issue lol

 
openning 2024-11-21 01:13:47 

In reply to powen001

Your dad is about 10-15 years older than me.
COL was about 15 years older than me; I can still take dance and golf lessons.
My dad died at 58 years, my mom at 102 years.
My mom's oldest daughter died in August she would have been 90 years old in January.

 
openning 2024-11-21 01:24:42 

In reply to powen001

on a serious note though Opening- my Dads eyesight is barely hanging on.

I got new glasses 3 years ago, I modelled several frames for my daughter; she lives in Toronto, and ever since then, women have complimented me on my frame.
I had cataract surgery 3-4 years ago and have no sign of glaucoma.

 
Castled 2024-11-21 01:51:29 

In reply to openning

Weak Bim team for semifinal Chase is lone quality player surprise if tits don't win semi easily.


Horror of horror this was I and I not a hypersonic VOR / Chrissy tag teamlol lol
Congrats Bim!

 
openning 2024-11-21 02:28:11 

In reply to Castled
You can see the talent in the region; it is going take a strong leader with a vision to move our cricket forward.
As far as the fans in the Windward and Leewards, they are part of the problem.
No one cares about breaking that partnership, I saw several players from Dominica who should be playing in regional cricket for Dominica.
Not the Windward Islands.
The same could be said for Antigua and St. Kitts; these Islands should be playing in the regional tournament.
I am not sure how teams from these regions have been selected since the discontinuation of the Windwards and Leeward Island tournaments.

 
powen001 2024-11-21 11:45:30 

In reply to openning

Thanks...I mention you often to Dad but only by your MB moniker...you must PM me your details let me see if Dad remembers you.

He too had at least 2 surgeries...but its back...and his right eye is cloudy at best.

 
openning 2024-11-21 14:43:45 

In reply to powen001

Sent

 
powen001 2024-11-21 23:58:04 

In reply to openning

thnks will go check now


cheers