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Justin > Jason
2024-11-26 14:58:51
2024-11-26 15:17:39
In reply to WalterWhite
not after 3 tests. Unfair to both to come to any conclusion. You can argue that Justin has a 33.3% great test average to date and it is likely that Jason has around the same percentage or close to it over a longer test career to date.
2024-11-26 15:25:25
In reply to WalterWhite
Premature.
Good signs for Greaves though. If we can get a number 6 who can average 35 with bat and 30 with ball that would be excellent.
2024-11-26 15:29:27
In reply to PalsofMine
jason's enthusiasm for WI cricket left when he lost the captaincy. says a lot about him
2024-11-26 15:53:22
In reply to voiceofreason
I have seen enough. Humility is the main thing going for him. Can't say that for the other guy.
2024-11-26 16:52:01
In reply to Jumpstart
A friend of mine shares your sentiment. I never really looked at it that way, as I thought he was just jaded from playing to much cricket.
2024-11-26 17:30:20
In reply to NYCGURU
yeah. he still toating from getting the pink slip. last year ducked the aus series to play t20s in UAE and then went to county cricket to prepare for the WT20. not fooling anybody
2024-11-26 17:40:38
In reply to Jumpstart
Are you speculating, or have you spoken to Jason?
2024-11-26 17:42:51
In reply to openning
jason out himself sir
"It was kind of a shock" for Jason Holder to be relieved from the West Indies Test captaincy, and while he admits to finding it difficult to transition from being the leader to an ordinary member of the team, he wants to focus more on his game, and be a sounding board for youngsters looking for guidance.
"Yeah, it's been difficult. I probably may not show it, but it has been difficult," Holder told ESPNcricinfo in an interview a couple of days away from the start of West Indies' first Test against South Africa in St Lucia. "For the last five-six years, I've been captaining West Indies, whether that be Test-match cricket or one-day cricket. So now being relieved of both captaincies, it has been a strange transition for me personally."
"Yeah, it's been difficult. I probably may not show it, but it has been difficult," Holder told ESPNcricinfo in an interview a couple of days away from the start of West Indies' first Test against South Africa in St Lucia. "For the last five-six years, I've been captaining West Indies, whether that be Test-match cricket or one-day cricket. So now being relieved of both captaincies, it has been a strange transition for me personally."
what happens when you give children a man's job
2024-11-26 17:52:47
I honestly think Jason should be made captain again. As strange as it seems. Let Kraig focus on his batting.
2024-11-26 17:56:53
In reply to WIForever
on the basis of what? how well he speaks? lord knows it can't be tactical nous or the ability to inspire players. this is the same dude who decided to bat first at sloping lords in overcast conditions vs anderson and broad with a series tied 1-1. not to mention taking off russell and oshane who had reduced australia to 80-5 with hellfire pace to be replaced by two spinners in RTN and nurse. australia got to 280 from 80-5 after that
2024-11-26 18:17:15
In reply to Jumpstart
this is the same dude who decided to bat first at sloping lords in overcast conditions vs anderson and broad with a series tied 1-1.
You seem to know everything about CWI cricket, but yet would say the captain of a cricket team is the one who decides to bat or bowl first.
I just listened to Andre Cooley after the game. Many discussions were made about playing the first test without a spinner. Was that Kraigg Brathwaite's call?
We also witnessed Brian Lara change the X1 decide upon, and added the player he wanted.
2024-11-26 18:23:29
In reply to openning
stuart law was the coach of that team. i know there is no way in hell that stuart law, a man who played 14 years of county cricket for 3 different counties and played at lords numerous times would ever have suggested batting first in overcast conditions at any ground in england, worse yet lords
2024-11-26 18:32:39
In reply to Jumpstart
You are making yourself seem biased toward team meetings.
I have been advocating for the role of cricket captain to be the same as that of other captains in team sports. This will stop the West Indians from blaming captains.
2024-11-26 18:39:11
2024-11-26 18:42:26
In reply to openning
homes you know that decision was all holder's. ent allan border, one of the greatest sports captains in history looked at the WACA in february of 93 and put his men into bat, against all logic and sense against ambrose and bishop....and got caned inside 3 days? you really think mark waugh, who didn't like short pitched bowling or justin langer, who had been concussed the previous game told him that was a good idea. a pitch that almost literally had the WI pacemen salivating
2024-11-26 18:56:28
In reply to Jumpstart
International cricket is not a few guys getting together and playing; it is a team sport.
Several decisions are made long before the toss, even in local cricket in Bim, when I played for Yorkshire. your biases are showing.
You are making yourself look small; hatred kills people.
2024-11-26 19:17:38
In reply to openning
You are making yourself look small
you are sounding irrational....like you're using something not even pablo escobar sold
Several decisions are made long before the toss,
those decisions are also subject to change. when SA had 80+ runs with 8 wickets remaining in 1992, the WI decided that they'd bowl out with ambrose and walsh. When they reached the ground, they voted again to bowl out with ambrose and walsh. On the field, when richardson was getting patterson to warm up, they voted again, three times, to bowl out with ambrose and walsh. you're not making an iota of sense
2024-11-27 13:50:37
In reply to WIForever
Would not need KB.
2024-11-27 19:05:09
Stop de foolishness.
Justin Greaves is not in the same area code AS AN ALLROUNDER as even a currently diminishing returns Jason Holder.
Just stop it.
Justin Greaves is a better batsman than Jason Holder
Although both are excellent in the field, I would still give Jason Holder the edge in that area
And Jason Holder is a far superior bowler to Justin Greaves.
2024-11-27 19:12:39
In reply to imusic
we doh need bowlers....the only lineup we haven't run through this year is england and i believe that had more to do with mediocre preparation than being outclassed. the batting is very weak. WI couldn't even make 263 at providence against an SA attack that only had rabada amongst their establish stars: no jansen, no Nortje, no coetzee,and we still couldn't make it with 2 full days to get the runs. holder time past unless he can focus on his batting
2024-11-28 00:26:29
In reply to Jumpstart
holder time past unless he can focus on his batting
I promised not to answer you related to your hatred of Bajans cricketers.
But sometimes I need to shut your stupid a*s up with stats.
Holder returned to Windies and batted at #6 in Hingland and home vesus RSA
'Stats'
All bastmen mentioned batted 10 times (5 tests)
Leader board in runs scored:-
Hodge - 303 runs
Guess who - 277 runs
Athanaze - 256 runs
Braffit - 229 runs
Louis - 210 runs
Dasilva - 193 runs
By the Way: 'Guess who' was top scorer in the RSA series for Windies
Now please go off the board idiot.
2024-11-28 01:47:11
In reply to TanteMerle
Where was holder when Da Silva ad Morie was coming in at 103-5…..oh wait, he was gone by the time we reached 106 with six wickets down. That we got 40 runs close to the 273 target is thanks to the 77 run partnership between da Silva, the much maligned da Silva and motie. JASON IS NOT A BATSMAN WE CAN RELY ON
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