Trump suggests Canada become 51st state

interesting times ahead

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Trump having fun slapping around Trudeau



Maybe those two people might be as credible as sgtjones and bolls

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Outrageous!!!

#manufactured

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not Trump's original idea, in Montreal in the '70s Canadian friend of mine said Kennedy had proposed that. Last week a NY state politician proposed NY joined Canada!

Here is a brief history

The relationship between the United States and Canada in the formative years of American independence is a fascinating study in ambition, miscalculation, and clashing cultures.
This narrative outlines a series of events that underscore the challenges of exporting revolutionary ideals and the resilience of those who resisted such efforts. Let’s take a closer look at these steps, with a touch of historical reflection:


The American Revolution was fueled by a fervent belief in liberty and self-determination, but these ideals didn’t translate well when carried across the border.
The decision to invade Canada was based on the assumption that French-Canadians, discontent with British rule, would welcome the American cause with open arms.
However, this assumption was flawed from the start.

The Canadiens, wary of both the British and the Americans, had little reason to join the revolutionaries.
The British, at least, had recently guaranteed their religious and cultural rights through the Quebec Act of 1774.
The Americans, in contrast, closed Catholic churches, requisitioned supplies without proper compensation, and ultimately alienated the population.
The failed assault on Quebec City during a snowstorm on the final day of 1775 was a disaster that highlighted the overconfidence and desperation of the American forces.

The retreat from Montreal in 1776, accompanied by an attempted act of arson, further solidified the Canadiens’ distrust.
The Americans had tried to spread their revolutionary gospel, but their methods left a bitter legacy.

The Articles of Confederation, the United States’ first attempt at a national framework, included an open invitation to Canada to join the union.
It was an optimistic gesture, but also one that revealed a lingering naivety. By this point, the Canadiens had little incentive to align themselves with their southern neighbors.
The scars of the failed invasion were fresh, and the promise of liberty came with the strings of cultural assimilation.

Canada’s continued rejection of American overtures was a quiet but firm statement of independence—one not necessarily from Britain, but from the revolutionary chaos brewing to the south.

The War of 1812 is often remembered in the United States as a defence of maritime rights, but it was also an overt attempt at territorial expansion.
The belief that conquering Canada would be straightforward—"a mere matter of marching," as some Americans claimed—proved disastrously wrong.

Canadian resistance, bolstered by British forces and crucial alliances with First Nations, turned the tide against American ambitions.
The burning of Washington White House in 1814 by British forces, a retaliatory strike for the destruction of York (modern-day Toronto), serves as a stark reminder of how poorly the war went for the United States.

By the end of the conflict, American forces had been pushed out of Canada entirely.
The war reaffirmed Canadian identity and unity in the face of external threats, while the United States was left to nurse its bruised pride.


The 19th century brought the concept of Manifest Destiny, the idea that the United States was destined to expand across the continent.
While this ideology drove American expansion westward, it also fueled dreams of annexing Canada.

However, Canada remained steadfast, bolstered by its own burgeoning sense of national identity and the continued support of Britain.
The rhetoric of annexation did little more than rattle sabres, as Canada’s defences, geography, and alliances proved formidable deterrents


The American attempts to bring Canada into the fold—whether by persuasion, force, or ideology—were a series of missteps and misjudgments
Each effort, from the Revolutionary War to the War of 1812 and beyond, only served to reinforce Canadian independence and cultural distinctiveness.

In hindsight, these episodes reveal the limits of revolutionary zeal when applied without sensitivity to local contexts. The Canadiens’ rejection of American overtures wasn’t merely a refusal of the United States; it was an assertion of their own identity, shaped by a unique blend of French, British, and Indigenous influences.

History often remembers the victors, but in this case, Canada’s quiet resilience speaks volumes
The failed invasions and annexation attempts tell a story not just of American ambition but of Canadian determination to chart its own path, free from the shadow of its southern neighbour.

So tell marmalade menace hull he mudda rass, Canada is not interested..