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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd75dy0ggz3o

Wouldnt be suprised if it was true

In reply to velo

Why exactly is that?

In reply to velo

That's quite an interesting position to take on such an important matter when there are no facts publicly available. Perhaps you know more about one of the individuals than you are letting on........

Don't believe this..

Jay is a serious rapper P-diddy wasn't..

I just feel that a serious rapper like that can't have too much cocoa in the sun or skeletons in the closet while spitting hard in yuh face for over 20 years.. dunno if logic is logical in that world though..

Having said that anything's possible, but I'm not sure this is probable or even plausible, especially the way its been presented , makes no sense..

*well kinda makes money grab sense..but I think they will hit a dead-end with Jay..

If you guys don't realise it by now, there's a law enforcement division in the USA dedicated to arresting/tarnishing the image of black entertainers, it's called the F.B.I.

Malcome X said it best, 'the police are able to use the press to make the white public think that 90 or 99% of negros in the negro community are criminals.'

In reply to JoeGrine
Im not saying he is guilty or innocent .but considering what has been going down in that industry for the last decade. It would not shock me

In reply to velo

Let's see... He'll invited to the stand... and the girl that allegedly saw the event as well.

In reply to bravos

The guy who was set for greatness - 2Pac!

He was just in the process of cleaning up his act - youth was so misguided!

In reply to XDFIX

I just hope the JZ thing isn’t true. Whatever his past was, the guy has worked himself into a stellar capitalist in a hostile environment for men of his inherited social class. Not surprising that the other power structure would want to damage him.... interesting the process is not criminal, yet, its all about money now.

In reply to XDFIX

lol

Wut? Pac was killed for a not so clean act of jumping and beating a dude with his wolfpack. Dude sought revenge and the rest is history. Not sure where you got the idea he was in the process of any of the sort. He was a walking, talking contradiction.

In reply to Gun_Play

What's the actual figure? Over 20% isn't it?

In reply to KTom

Perhaps, and it wouldn't have been due to the lack of trying to find them, while turning a blind eye to those of a different hue who do the same exact thing. Once remembered a dude laughing that he and his friends are lucky their areas weren't over policed for 'possession' and all that because the whole neighbourhood would have records.

But ya know...them's the breaks.

In reply to JahJah

He is only 'emulating' his god. Gotta sh!t on the colored guy.

In reply to XDFIX

Man and he was something,threw away his life for shyte, hard to watch him on YT interviews etc...still seems so bright and fresh...

In reply to JahJah

Yep Orlando..

In reply to velo

Not surprised of both the possibility of it having really happened or the accusation whether or not
Sordid!

13 years old? give me a more believable age 16,17 maybe!

In reply to camos

At an official party also..how did she get in ? Who else saw her ? She's trying to remain anonymous but Jay's attorney ain't having it, they're going all the way. Not a red cent they said.. they've been coming at him with this a couple months now apparently, bsically telling him to settle and kill it as it would be the less costly option for him innocent or guilty .

Grown men do strange among young girls, A friend of mine, A vice president at a prestige institution in business since the 1700's will be sentence in the New Year for sexually assaulting a child of 13 years.

I know this Individual, he has an outstanding reputation and is a great professional in his field, but you can never judge or swear for anyone conduct behind close door.

In reply to tc1

Sick MF, sorry..

I can’t understand why anyone would find this hard to believe. I’m not saying he’s guilty, but if you look at the history of that industry- the wider industry, this kind of thing has been happening for decades, even centuries!

What’s going to stop it now? It’s pretty naive to think human nature would change overnight.

In reply to camos

What am i hearing though? Bro sickos dont care how old a child

In reply to velo

The allegation is against two grown men for the same incident in the presence of a woman, was the woman the mother?

In reply to camos

I have no idea the law will decide if thst is true or not .what i had a issue with is you saying that becsuse she is 13 this could not be believable . thst does not make a diference to sick peaodophiles

In reply to velo

Camos seems to indicate that if the child is less that 16 they are not credible.
I have heard stories of a relative who abuse a child and the parents either don't believe or push it under the rug.

What would a 13-year-old be doing at those gatherings?

how yall seem to think that rich powerful people wont do evil things?

since kingdom come you hear stories of grown men raping and molesting children, from all walks of life rich or poor

is like yall forget somebody like epstein existed, you think he is the only one?

if the rich and powerful have a demand, there will be somebody there to provide it

In reply to camos

you gonna ask that ridiculous question to the epstein victims?

In reply to conman

Did he have victims of that age?

In reply to conman

Rich and powerful has nothing to do with anything since plenty poor people molest kids. Oprah wasn't a rich child when she went through that.

And Jay Z wasn't 'rich and powerful' in 2000.

In reply to JahJah

In reply to JahJah

what benefit does it give to you to say that a man accused of raping a child should get the benefit of the doubt?

your support of him does nothing, if its not true then good for him he had rough PR time he's rich, he'll recover, if it is true then we learn that justice needs to be made

In reply to camos

what kind of question is that?

your essentially asking, how old were the children that were raped

In reply to conman

[b]Is like yall forget somebody like epstein existed, you think he is the only one?
[/b]

educated me to what occurs in some of our own Caribbean communities where children (girls and boys) and adults are sexually molested and when informed it is sweep under the rug.

In reply to Gun_Play

Wow...Someone still pulling a race card for a self proclaimed crack dealer who made even more money glorifying selling crack and becoming rich off it.

Are you saying the FBI never arrests white people?

Rappers tarnish their own image and then make millions of dollars from selling off ignorance to main stream America.

You think Malcolm X would approve of rappers calling themselves and their women "Ho's, bitches, Niggas" ?

By the way...Law enforcement is not as involved in the Jay Z case as you think...it is a civil case not a criminal one.

any updates on the claim?

In reply to Trex

Gun_Play is right. Furthermore, he never said anything about the FBI not arresting “white people”.

Stop conflating the issues, and at least make an attempt to familiarize yourself with the origins and history of the FBI.

If you are too intellectually lazy to find out for yourself, let me help you out with these articles here and here and here.


The FBI even had a war on Black book stores. Does that effort sound familiar like the right-wing’s current war on black authors, black-themed books and the teaching of black history?

The FBI has always been a right-wing organization whose employees, especially the agents are primarily Republican. It’s an organization that has never been led by a Democrat.

But more, in one of above articles there is mention of COINTELPRO 2.0. which is coined in reference to a FBI report titled “Black Identity Extremists“. While at it, also familiarize yourself at to what the original COINTELPRO was all about.

This designation, just recently invented by the F.B.I., is as frightening and dangerous as the bureau’s infamous Cointelpro program of the 1960s and ’70s, under which J. Edgar Hoover set out to disrupt and destroy virtually any group with the word “black” in its name. Today, entirely nonviolent black activists face violations of their civil liberties and even violence if they’re deemed part of B.I.E.

I am not condoning any bad behaviour from anyone whether it be Diddy, JayZ or Donald Trump, who was found guilty of sexual assault.

But stop fooling yourself about the FBI and how it has often gone after “uppity Negroes” who accumulated any kind of power - political or monetary.

BTW, the woman who has accused Diddy and Jay-Z of sexual assault is now indicating there are discrepancies in her story. And her lawyer, who likely put her up to make these claim and to get money out of Jay-Z, is now saying he is going to investigate the matter. But Jay-Z is already slimed by the accusation, whether true or not..

In reply to camos

The case is falling apart rapidly, the lawyer stands the risk of being pursued to disbarrment .

The alleged vic is apparently autistic, she did an interview and there were many inconsistencies, she claimed to have had conversations with some other entertainers that night ,but they have gone public and stated that they were not there and infact on tour, she said lived 5 hrs away and got a lift from a friend etc who didn't stay and is dead now, and after the incident called her father and he promptly came for her ( a 5 hr drive) ,her father said he wouldve remembered something like that and basically doesn't want to have anything to do with it .
Its being also said that autistic people have illusions of relationships with celebs etc..

There's a vid I'll look for it and post it..

In reply to conman

This is nothing but a money grab ! Why tf would young JayZ need to rape anyone ! ? That lawyer is going to lose his license over this !! And anyone could see this was a sham . They should be jailed !

This would.make all current and future claims lose all credibility and may even affect the outcome of Combs case !! Those lawyer would have a field day!

In reply to Casper

It amazes me that even with the long recorded history of these institutions, some still choose not to believe.

It's 2024, blacks make up 13% of American, black entertainers even less so. Now, look at the number of black entertainers arrested or jailed. It is not a coincidence.

Efforts are being made do undermine these people's influence in society!

We did not land on Plymouth rock, Plymouth rock landed on us!