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Floyd Reifer……batting coach…..has a track record of when the pitch is good for batting, the batters perform

But as soon as it offers assistance to bowlers or isn’t a batting paradise……the batters consistently struggle.

Interesting comment and observation

In reply to imusic

Did he say anything about the boneheaded head coach?

Wasn’t the previous batting coach had the same problem?

In reply to Raggs

Can’t remember who the previous batting coach was.

Seems like Floyd Reifer been around forever

In reply to imusic

https://youtu.be/72N-hGeQOpU?si=vqaFH2_VCazwNEjN

Marlon said it as early as 2019.... Pretty Boy Floyd!!!!

In reply to imusic

Isn’t that the definition of a cheerleader?

Lol

And yet Floyd will take Coley's job. Watch di ride, di man seh 'me and my team' Scammer Scammy

In reply to Raskil

Ha - and he dresses like one too: Armless, relaxing with his hands cupped behind his head, stretching out and yawning during a match. I have yet to see him dress professionally

In reply to imusic

dat in itself doh make sense

In reply to Onionman0

the toilet stance.....i die

Big Phil e[ating Ice Cream or licking it.

In reply to tc1

Bim continues to live rent free for life in the empty skulls of musicain and jumpy

They might need to change their batting practice routines, instead of practicing on batting friendly pitches, practice on " mine-field " pitches.

In reply to dayne

It is very simple.

Lara said facing Marshall, Ambrose, Walsh, Patterson in the nets meant that it could only get easier when he went to bat the next day in a test match.

Practice should be where you do your homework and heavy lifting so you can execute when it comes to match day. Tony Adams and Martin Keown said practice sessions were more intense than Match days

In reply to sgtdjones


Did he say anything about the bonehead head coach

shots fired

In reply to ponderiver

How can this Sammy be head coach for all versions of CWI cricket?...
He is also a selector; why are we at this level of stupidity?

He markets himself well on TV, especially when a player does well; he comes over to give advice picked up by the television crew.
Yet, where is he when his batsmen are failing and making the same mistakes over and over? Hiding.
The look on Pooran's face suggested he was ill. Why was he playing?

CWI has the only not-qualified, without credentials individual coaching, unless they were looking for clappers or grifters.
Who would hire this bunch to coach cricket?

I feel for the fans that attended; they were cheated.

In reply to sgtdjones

You can’t put Pooran’s dismissals on Sammy.

Had Pooran not played, the talk would have been Sammy choosing his homies over a player like Pooran.

Pooran likely said he was good to go and failed both times. That cyah be Sammy fault.

In reply to imusic

They have a medical team.
Looking at Pooran briefly when the camera focused on him on the bench, he looked ill or jetlagged.
They should have an inkling after the first game.
It was noted he was ill in the morning and played that night.

Sammy's management team is as long as the number of players selected.
When boneheads manage, such an occurrence is common.

When travelling, it is common knowledge that one day for every hour of time difference helps acclamatize.
Pooran was in the east before this series.

The CWI should really look harder at their team selection method, it might not be a good idea for Sammy to have all that say in the selection process, IMO there should be another person who is not on Sammy's coaching staff who should be one of the Selectors, maybe if that was the set-up Fletcher would not have been on the present T20 team.

This could also be a symptom of too much franchise cricket

The wickets are more batting friendly on the franchise circuit, most of these guys are getting their miles through that route, then they face an international level wicket with no practice

India and Pakistan went through that issue with their domestic program
At least with India, when they made their wickets a bit more fast bowling friendly their batsmen were able to adjust on international tracks

In reply to dayne

I 100% agree.

In reply to imusic

So much conjecture, bad mindedness and ample amounts of conspiracy on this thread that it doh make sense to say naffin now.

get in good; hear?

In reply to Castled

Both need a mental health coach.

In reply to powen001

Is it bad mindedness to comment on a batting lineup that has consistently struggled against all bowling attacks on less than helpful wickets and wonder what the batting coach is doing?

A batting coach who has been in charge for a long time across formats.

Or some should just be exempt from scrutiny?

Bear in mind…..it was a commentator / analyst on yesterday’s T20I broadcast that made the observation and posed the question, calling Reifer’s name in the process.

I posted it here.

In reply to imusic

but how you jump to that being the bad mindedness?

That is actually one of the FEW things that is worthy of debate-

Why is it our players Level of application not increase with not so friendly batting pitches?

Surprise Surprise...it aint TEST cricket where you battle it out-
It's Lickit and the pressure of every dot ball is real!


So how to get our batsmen to at least stick around and build partnerships with "place it and tek a run" approach is fair game for any coach.

Let the coach defend himself when it comes to that sort of common sense thing...aint OUR problem been always the "taking the singles and building the innings" regardless of format?

So...Music- that is not the bad mindedness to which I referred.

not by a long shot...but your slip showed instantly in your assumption.

In reply to powen001

Sammy's theory is as follows...

In power play, voop or cow corner...

If opponents have spin or bowlers swinging the balls, our rass is toast.

Guess what Coach Simmo is aware of such in T 20.

While Sammy is looking for TV coverage on the boundary when a bowler gets a wicket or writing notes, such hasn't shown improvements.

The players are still looking lost in the middle.

He is sitting when his selections are like bowling pins, clueless as they chase meagre amounts of runs to win.

We couldn't hit the ball to take singles, nor could we build any innings in the last two games...to win.

CWI picked someone for a coach who thinks he is in marketing clapping and appearing on the boundry.

In reply to imusic

It is such a weird statement to make. Why not just say the batters have an issue when the track isn't batting friendly?

Floyds name doesn't come up when talking about poorans golden form from a few months ago, or hopes power hitting change, so why bring it up for this issue?

In reply to conman

In reply to powen001

My bad

Our test batters do such an outstanding job of doing just that

In reply to sgtdjones

LOL.

so.. the objectivity is seen

the Badmindedness in the Marketing an Clapping comment.

what clapping or marketing you see last night or in the first game?

De same Simmo was getting cuss so it aint bout that...and I aint bout de ice cream eating folly either...bare picong gine on when too many coaches over the decades have failed to address what ails us.


re Nicky- I dint even think he was sick...so thanks for being transparent above on that-

bluntly put...that int the Nicky we know out there at the moment...and that is my cause for concern- He is a bonafide match winner.

I don't want him pulling a Russel and only doing it for franchises

In reply to conman

In reply to powen001

Its obvious you don't see the problem with a head coach and staff as long as the players list.

You keep looking at them through rose-coloured glasses; I do not.

Sammy's greatest asset is not as a certified coach, nor is he leading a talented bunch that didn't need him to win two world cups.
Various players took it upon themselves to win those cups with talent and skills that Sammy didn't have.
Now what was his greatest asset—winning tosses or clapping? Boycotts mother-in-law could have achieved such.

He couldn't clap in these two games as he was outcoached and outplayed by players 22 to 24 years old.
This is where coaching skills are shown—not running to the boundary after Motie got a wicket, playing up to the television.
When his players were being sent back to the pavilion looking like dunces, his hands were on his head, sitting behind a table.
We saw the same scene in the game before; what did he do to correct such a debacle?
Its obvious; was it beyond his capabilities as a non-certified coach? Indeed, the final outcomes do tell a story.

Did such not appear to you? How come he was not on the boundary offering advice as he did earlier?
These players seem to be unmotivated, even Pooran; they seem to want to be somewhere else.

In reply to sgtdjones

To me what Sammy does really well is implement and encourage esprit de corps with his teams.

He has a feel good factor especially when talking about WI cricket and fans. He speaks passionately about it.

That’s pretty much it as far as I can see.

The media……and administration especially social media are complicit with promoting him as some saviour of West Indies cricket.

Social media quick to highlight him in every victory.

They silent and go dark whenever there is a loss. Not a peep.

One setta talk before and during T20 World Cup in the Caribbean earlier this year.

Crickets from Sammy and CWI social media after getting knocked out.

And sgtjones and others are on point when they comment that he plays up to
The camera in facourable circumstances and absent in adverse situations.

Darren Sammy is a very good hype man. Perhaps even a good motivator. I haven’t seen anything to date that demonstrates him to be a coach far less a good one.

In reply to dayne

The only reason you have an issue is because of the results. Sammy is not the man.

In reply to dayne

Why should Sammy not have all the say? Give him a free rein because his neck and career is on the line. He should be given the team that he wants

In reply to Baje

Said every CEO ever, when the auditors came in

Tell me you Joking

In reply to Halliwell

I’ve long advocated that the person responsible for results and performance should select the team

In reply to sgtdjones

A fraud grifter and a scammer

I called it early

In reply to Baje

Never as a player....and NEVER as head coach

In reply to Baje

You sure he is the one to give it to???

In reply to powen001

Mahedi Hasan | Player of the Series:
World Cup time we had lots of options, that's why I did not play. Good experience in the Global T20 and that helped here. I enjoyed bowling on this type of wickets, we planned before the series to bowl wicket to wicket. I know Pooran, played with him in BPL and other leagues, he is a tough batter for a right-hand offspinner but we had plans against him. We did not have a good ODI series but for the T20Is the boys were hungry and hopefully we will do well in the Champions Trophy.

In reply to Narper

On that note, isn't the Champions Trophy, F50? If so, I now see, Sammy has no concern for T20I's at this time. LOL His team is oiled and tuned for F50.

Observation: F50 must be the base for our cricket. From the F50 squad, must come your Test and T20I players.

In reply to powen001

If such exists, simply refute them?