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A dash of perspective and honesty from Van Jones

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bravos 12/19/24, 3:56:27 PM
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A little rationale goes a long way ...

The man's all kinda ting, but he also won, and I don't mean just the election ....

When one's argument is based on fact, one simply tolerates unreasonable opposing voices . It's not even an argument at that point, but an exercise in self-ridicule .
nick2020 12/19/24, 6:21:11 PM
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In reply to bravos

so you are a fan of Jeffrey Epstein, Puff Daddy and co?

Since when is "smart" the end all be all?

Look bravos you would not want Trump to marry your daughter so get off this crap of defending Trump. We know he won but so did Hitler and no one here is saying Hitler was a good man.
birdseye 12/19/24, 8:39:07 PM
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In reply to bravos

Maybe 51% of Americans (trump voters) are less smart. If Trump ran as a Democrat, as he was before running for president in 2015, and would he have won
There are so many factors that goes into politics… Kim Jong Un, , Xi Jinping and Putin control all the reins of power in their country. Are they the smartest or best for the job… the same with Trump….people make mistakes all the time…its easy to Monday morning quarterback after the game was played on Sunday…

12 emigrants behind some of Silicon Valley’s biggest companies
--- yet trump followers agrees with him that immigrants are poisoning the blood of Americans…it depends on how Van Jones views smart. The young man who killed the US healthcare executive was the smartest in his elite prep-school class, all his mates thought he was a great guy.
I am a big Van Jones fan, but Van Jones theory is not a Pythagorean Theorem

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birdseye 12/19/24, 8:46:43 PM
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Look bravos you would not want Trump to marry your daughter so get off this crap of defending Trump. We know he won but so did Hitler and no one here is saying Hitler was a good man.
Man you cut to the chase and respond way more eloquently than me
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Cheeks 12/19/24, 9:25:08 PM
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Yeah Biden won too....but you on here braying criticizing him here anyway. i have no tolerance for your fraudulent BS.

Just admit you love the zero accountability that Trump enjoys and want to live vicariously through him nah.

Dream on..because if it were your black arse in Trump's Amerikka..you'd either be lost in jail or gunned down...and probably if you were alive to tell the tale, you'd be glad to depend on the DEI crowd to help you out.

You sound like a man trying to convince himself of something, not unlike quite few 'christian' friends of mine who support this character.
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bravos 12/20/24, 1:02:19 AM
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Lol....

d usual suspects...

This isn't a discussion by the way...just an observation exercise..lol ..
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conman 12/20/24, 1:14:32 AM
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Trump winning is the sign of a broken country

No proper country should have such an unqualified criminal even as a candidate

It's a country for the rich and corrupt, and trumps wealth is the only reason he's in this position
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birdseye 12/20/24, 2:10:38 AM
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It's a country for the rich and corrupt, and trumps wealth is the only reason he's in this position
No truer words has ever been spoken – he epitomizes the definition of the antichrist
The Antichrist is a figure in Christian eschatology that refers to a person who will oppose Jesus Christ and pretend to be the savior before the Second Coming.
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birdseye 12/20/24, 2:18:15 AM
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Trump winning is the sign of a broken country
That’s profound. That is the best summation I have yet to hear
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bravos 12/20/24, 4:58:36 AM
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In reply to birdseye

That's obvious bro, I thought we already knew about Murica ? Man I keep assuming everyone's aware of all those obvious things, no wonder we're having communication issues here ...


The thing is broken Trump is the right person for the broken country with their war mongering and gender confusion to name a few..

Sick country for real, that's why we must wish the new president and the country the best, he's your president.
conman 12/20/24, 5:03:43 AM
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In reply to bravos

See that's where we divert

He is not the medicine man to a sick country, he's one of the abscesses

The fix isn't coming soon, the sickness most likely started long before most people were aware

You even brought up an absolute nothing....gender politics, pure right wing nonsense.....children are dying in schools and the people of this country care about what gender somebody calls themselves

Sick, rotten country
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bravos 12/20/24, 5:47:31 AM
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It's just that some of the things he said he's gonna do works for me, else I wouldn't really care, but the thing is I really want those things done and he's the only one that offered to do them, most of them I found out after he won because it was only then I started to take the man seriously and started to watch vids with him on the trail, I really didn't think he would've won..Can't stand this latest iteration of the Dems though, they're insane bro..

*oh when minors are having sex changes and people are identifying as pink ponies and unicorns I think it's a big problem, and the Dems seems too happy to facilitate all that nonsense...pleh..
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VIX 12/20/24, 10:53:27 AM
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big grinbig grin
The Antichrist is a figure in Christian eschatology that refers to a person who will oppose Jesus Christ and pretend to be the savior before the Second Coming.

Allyuh ent easy in this place nah.

yes, yes.
Jesus will come to save the misfits from Trump!!
Unfortunately for the echo chamber, Jesus didn't return as someone named Harris for the Second Coming!

#delusional
#deranged
#PTSD
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Emir 12/20/24, 1:17:43 PM
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In reply to conman

You even brought up an absolute nothing....gender politics, pure right wing nonsense.....children are dying in schools and the people of this country care about what gender somebody calls themselves


If you speak to parents form all groups, regular normal parents, not just crazy radical Christians, they do not want their 7 to 12 year old being taught about same sex parents, and the glorified presentation of homosexuality at such a tender age- it is not just a right wing ting- I had also dismissed it as a non issue until the facts came out.

Thousands of elementary school counsellors from elementary schools- most of them identified as Democrats and anti-right wing, they will tell you it is a crisis of confusion among these children that they have never witnessed before.

And BTW, a regular normal parent can be concerned about both gun violence and gender politics at the same time, they don't have to give up one concern for the other.
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nick2020 12/20/24, 1:20:00 PM
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In reply to bravos

Do you consume a lot of social media?

Do you read the comments?

It is amazing to me how comfortable people are in the comments section. People are comfortable being everything society would shun them for in the comments - racist, sexist, cruel, you name it.

If I said "Trinidad is trash, bravos is a closet pantyman, his woman is a whore, his children are jackets and his dog want shooting" I do not think you would have anything good to say about me because you were not raised with those values. I worry that the social media generation will find the Trump rhetoric the norm.

There is a reason why people keep saying Trump is breaking all norms.

You are choosing to look past how morally bankrupt Trump is and I am just trying to figure out why.
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Emir 12/20/24, 1:22:30 PM
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Is Genocide an act more likely to be done or inspired by the Anti Christ or "nice President," say like Joe Biden?
conman 12/20/24, 1:22:48 PM
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Yall really drink the right wing koolaid HARD


"TV rots your brain"

Don't think you are capable of escaping the rot
Emir 12/20/24, 1:23:46 PM
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In reply to nick2020


You are choosing to look past how morally bankrupt Trump is and I am just trying to figure out why.


Most people who voted for him, accepted he is, but it speaks to the way many people choose to line up "moral bankruptcy."

Biden give away that argument, when he financed, protected and defended genocide. Who is better to lead: A man who is "morally bankrupt" or one who financed, defended and protected those who committed genocide- people could not separate Kamala from Biden- they argued she was the other half.

Is Joe Biden, a moral man?
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VIX 12/20/24, 1:32:17 PM
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In reply to nick2020

partner, it sounds as if you need to take a break from social media yourself. It'll do you mental health a world of good.
bravos 12/20/24, 2:21:54 PM
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In reply to VIX

Man nick is disappointing me big time, can't believe he's doing what they do, accuse others of what ails them..phew boy nick.

But I'm not prepared to lose a good friend over this ! cool
bravos 12/20/24, 2:23:08 PM
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Looks like we have achieved a Bingo ,Bingo ! cool
VIX 12/20/24, 3:01:53 PM
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TDS continues to seize control of the backroom!
Even those who i thought were invulnerable to it are spiraling outta control!!
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bravos 12/21/24, 3:52:01 AM
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Lol they'll get over it by January..
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Emir 12/21/24, 12:51:36 PM
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What we are seeing is grown people acting like children in the playfield when they loss a game of whatever they were playing.

But what is shocking is the narrative they have apparently baked into their brain, this narrative goes like this:

How dare people elect Trump as President, he is morally bankrupt, a racist, a sexist, a sexual abuser convict, a man who has spent his entire career as a swindler and cheat and a man who tried to overthrow the peaceful transfer of power- ALL if which is either true or has merit as an argument.

But what they ignore is all Politicians have the same trait as Trump- the difference is they are politically correct in the way they speak and the sanitization of their actions by the political class systems and the cable news media that is part of that industry.

So, Joe Biden, who presided over genocide- sponsored it, protected those who carry it out, defended those who did it, and financed the operation is seen as a normal decent guy.

For the past 4 years, these folks have been brainwashed by MSNBC- the other side of FOX.

For poster Nick and others, this is like a movie, except in the end, the bad guy won and they can't stop crying.
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bravos 12/21/24, 2:17:19 PM
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In reply to Emir

Bro I couldn't have said it better myself or no one for that matter, that's why I always gladly leave room for posters such as yourself and others to make the bingo! Saves me a lot of work too !wink
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