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BeatDball 12/24/24, 5:45:20 PM
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In reply to Slipfeeler Give us that exact timeline when Europeans/Arabs set foot on the continent!
Slipfeeler 12/25/24, 3:39:51 AM
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In reply to BeatDball

The first Europeans to enter Southern Africa were the Portuguese, who from the 15th century edged their way around the African coast in the hope of outflanking Islam, finding a sea route to the riches of India, and discovering additional sources of food.

The first white man to actually arrive in South Africa was Bartolomeu Dias, from Portugal, circa 1487. The Portuguese would continue to visit but not create settlements.

Islam arrived in North Africa (the Maghreb) just seven years after the death of the Prophet Mohammed in 639. The 4,000 strong Arab invading forces came from Mecca under the leadership of the military ruler Amr ibn.

Islam had already spread into northern Africa by the mid-seventh century A.D., only a few decades after the prophet Muhammad moved with his followers from Mecca to Medina on the neighboring Arabian Peninsula (622 A.D./1 A.H.). The Arab conquest of Spain and the push of Arab armies as far as the Indus River culminated in an empire that stretched over three continents, a mere hundred years after the Prophet’s death. Between the eighth and ninth centuries, Arab traders and travelers, then African clerics, began to spread the religion along the eastern coast of Africa and to the western and central Sudan (literally, “Land of Black people”), stimulating the development of urban communities.

Instead, the question could be rephrased to “Are Arabs indigenous to Africa?”. The short answer is no. Ethnic Arabs are indigenous to Asia, not Africa.
Slipfeeler 12/25/24, 3:48:34 AM
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Well, based on the above information, President Idi Amin of Uganda got it right, when he said “Africa is for Africans, that is, Black Africans”.

Although black people captured and controlled several parts of Europe, at that time Europeans were considered as barbarians, lacking in social skills or even an intelligent society but you will never hear any black persons claiming to be Europeans. So why are Europeans and Arabs claiming to be Africans?
Slipfeeler 12/25/24, 3:56:18 AM
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I know your very next question, so let me answer it before you even ask:
The Moors existed and ruled in Europe for over 700 years, and resided in the royal houses of Europe where they collaborated on many levels with each other, which included marriage.
granite 12/25/24, 1:47:50 PM
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Amin may have inadvertantly did the Asians a favour because many became very rich,educated and some became doctors,lawyers and proficient in many fields.Not long after kicking out the Asians Amin was sending out invitations to Egyptians to come and run the many businesses the Asians left,not many went.What Amin should have done was,pass a law telling the Asians to train Africans in different aspects of running shops,stores and different skills, and then send them on their way.I don't know if it's true, but when Ugandans tried to run the businesses that Indians left they couldn't cope,they knew nothing about business.Those who were given a shop were charging prices for example,a trousers were selling for the waist size,so a size 30 was selling for 30 shillings,some stuff were over priced and some were undercharged.It was real bacchanal in Uganda for years without the Asians.It took years for Uganda to be back on its feet and thrive as it once did.Amin wasn't a smart man as we all
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BeatDball 12/25/24, 3:19:19 PM
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I'm glad the world is moving away, somewhat gradually, from ethnicity to nationality/citizenship status. Fools, stop.
XDFIX 12/25/24, 3:47:19 PM
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debut: 3/2/03
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In reply to Slipfeeler

Arabs are the biggest colonialist under the radar!
JahJah 12/25/24, 4:13:43 PM
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debut: 12/6/03
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In reply to granite

I don't know if it's true


Dem dunce, incapable n-words? Is that what the expelled person you met in the UK told you?
granite 12/25/24, 4:49:30 PM
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debut: 11/1/13
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So you know that a Ugandan Asian told me that story,I never knew an Asian Ugandan,I read everything on our Newspaper and don't recall what paper it was.Be brave man own up to some truths.Would you like me to write more of what I saw on a BBC Docu,about Asians who went to Kenya,look man me going stop here coz me nah wah you come chat shit fuh me,now go lang.
Slipfeeler 12/25/24, 4:55:48 PM
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debut: 12/22/15
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I understand your perspectives with regards to black Ugandans incapable of managing the various businesses which could have been attributable to colonialism. Remember the previous colonial masters refused to educate black people, or even involve them in any type of job training. The Asians also contributed to the situation, willingly took the blacks money, made huge profits due cheap black labor but did not reinvest in black communities or education, or training blacks to control their own businesses. That’s why Idi Amin decided to kick them out of Uganda, for they were profiting from the country but refused to convert those profits into building communities, only their own families and extended families in Asia profited, while black Ugandans left living in poverty and squalor. While you are thinking that Idi Amin was wrong? I guess everyone has their own perspectives, you think that Asians should continue to live off the backs of black people in Uganda.
BeatDball 12/25/24, 5:21:37 PM
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In reply to Slipfeeler Wealthy Indo-Ugandan$ give
back a lot! Run guh ask mih bwoy (whom I share birthday with) Musceveni! Now, gwallang. razz
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granite 12/25/24, 5:43:40 PM
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Thank you sir,I am happy that you respond with an intelligent post with info that I am well aware of but what I said was,and Jah Jah forgot to mention was,"Amin should have forced the Asians to teach the Africans skills in business that they run etc.and then kick them out".Thank you for going further to explain how the Africans were kept down by the colonial boss with the help of the Asians.
Brerzerk 12/25/24, 11:25:38 PM
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You may not know that many supply sources to goods needed to restock those businesses were cut off. Note also that The West conditioned access to lending agencies on Uganda making whole (reparations) those Asians who lost their businesses. Ludicrous to believe pants price was based on waist size. Currently in Uganda you can't even get govt jobs without a 2nd degree and that's even with nepotism/cronyism included
Slipfeeler 12/26/24, 3:01:59 PM
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There was actually a movie with Denzil Washington and Indian star actress, Mira Nair, about Uganda at that time, “Mississippi Masala”.
JahJah 12/26/24, 3:39:54 PM
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In reply to granite

It looks like I touched a nerve and thus you ranted in a rather unintelligible manner. You can talk all you want about Amin. I care not for him. You can also continue to push the narrative that Black people are dunce. Have at it.
BeatDball 12/26/24, 5:38:24 PM
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In reply to JahJah The elites just want to be the ruling & not the economic class
velo 12/26/24, 8:00:23 PM
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debut: 7/29/19
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." The Asians also contributed to their situation, willingly took the blacks money, made huge profits due cheap black labor but did not reinvest in black communities or education, or training blacks to control their own businesses"

That was not their job that is the job of any government . even today musaveni welcomed back hundreds of indians and they now control 70% of the business in uganda .what has really changed in uganda? a largely black uneducated population that owns nothing with a minority indian population that controls the economy
Slipfeeler 12/28/24, 1:47:58 AM
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Understandably some Ugandan Asians have regained their prominent role in the country's economy, following their mass expulsion more than four decades ago.
However, Ugandan Africans are now involved in farm ownership and shop-keeping, which in the past had been almost solely Asian sectors.
Not so certain about your large uneducated population owning nothing, of course, any intelligent person would repudiate that comment. One of my Ugandan colleague owns what looks like a mansion in her country and her husband is making plans to return to Uganda from Canada soon.
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