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The Liar Extraordinaire is at it again

Casper 1/7/25, 5:55:10 PM
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One of his most notable claims is that the Panama Canal was built by American workers.

Little does he know that most of that physical work was done by West Indians, primarily from Barbados and Jamaica, who by 1907 made up 75% of the by then 24,000 workforce.

I am a bit sensitive about this issue because my grandmother lies in the ground in Panama, having given of her labour in helping to construct that Panama Canal.
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Ayenmol 1/7/25, 6:29:49 PM
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In reply to Casper

Aren't you making the man's point?

I do not care about the politics here. However i saw no claim by the man that the canal was built by Ameruican workers. Nor have i seen any argument resembling such.

It is well known who paid for and authorised the build and who owned the land on which it was built.

No where have i ever seen ownership of anything attributed to paid laborers.

Only point you made is that Panama did not contribute in any measurable way to the building of the canal.

Trump uses the same ammo for all his deals.....start with a non starter and negotiate down. he want to soothe the shipping community who wants cost lowered for using the canal.

And facts are that there were terms of the exchange.
camos 1/8/25, 2:17:12 AM
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In reply to Ayenmol

Only point you made is that Panama did not contribute in any measurable way to the building of the canal.




Are you saying the people who contributed the land had no meaningful contribution?
VIX 1/8/25, 1:52:24 PM
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I thought this thread was about stupidjones. Sorry. Carry on. lol
tc1 1/8/25, 9:04:02 PM
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In reply to Casper

100% correct, the orange man said Americans built the canal, we know different, the Canal is dear to Caribbean people especially Bimsters and Yardies. The Barbados middle class was built from money and wealth from the workers in Panama.
googley 1/8/25, 9:36:00 PM
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In reply to VIX

I thought this thread was about stupidjones. Sorry. Carry on.



lollollollol

That was wutliss
Ayenmol 1/8/25, 10:19:17 PM
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In reply to camos

Sir, the land did not belong to Panama....
Brerzerk 1/8/25, 10:56:22 PM
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Ayen, ah si dis post pulled yuh out
NY chance do you know how Panama the country came into being?
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Ayenmol 1/9/25, 2:57:30 PM
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In reply to Brerzerk

Yes, but admittedly not well enough to be certain it \validates my argument. Although, i am aware the US alao played a part in the split from Columbia and it was the very canal issue that contributed to it.
Drapsey 1/9/25, 5:51:23 PM
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This might help some...

Separation of Panama from Colombia

The separation of Panama from Colombia was formalized on 3 November 1903, with the establishment of the Republic of Panama and the abolition of the Colombia-Costa Rica border. From the Independence of Panama from Spain in 1821, Panama had simultaneously declared independence from Spain and joined itself to the confederation of Gran Colombia through the Independence Act of Panama. Panama was always tenuously connected to the rest of the country to the south, owing to its remoteness from the government in Bogotá and lack of a practical overland connection to the rest of Gran Colombia. In 1840–41, a short-lived independent republic was established under Tomás de Herrera. After rejoining Colombia following a 13-month independence, it remained a province which saw frequent rebellious flare-ups, notably the Panama crisis of 1885, which saw the intervention of the United States Navy, and a reaction by the Chilean Navy.
Ayenmol 1/9/25, 6:01:30 PM
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In reply to Drapsey

This is the issue....this article enumerates how the Panamanians gifted the Isthmus to the US.
However other articles I've read claims t was Colombia who owned the land and sold it to the companies.

Being that France started the building of the Canal before Panama gained independence from Colombia, even unofficially, it appears the latter is more accurate though it is all intertwned.