Sherfane Rutherford on CPL incident

"After a game against Barbados (which) we lost, the owner texted me about making the team lose. He said, I caused them to lose the game. I responded in a way. That is not a good time to message a player. We are professionals, we have feelings. So obviously when you're not doing well, you just want to reflect. So, when he texted me at the wrong time, I responded to him. That was where they decided for me to leave."

Rutherford

In reply to shivnotout

During the CPL I posted that there's more to the story... good to see Sherfane finally talking about it.

The owner of that franchise thinks he own the players.. whatever he tell them they must do. Rutherford is not a fella that takes nonsense from people. A few years ago Sanasie (the former GCB President) found out that.

These franchise owners gotta start knowing their places... with the amount of match fixing that's goings around, why are they allowed to contact the players directly?

In reply to anthonyp

GUESS he couldn’t have played under CLIVE nor ROHAN either …. since he lacked the discipline like so much of our current cricketers …

In reply to shivnotout

owner....see im here

We should hear from the owner exactly what the conversation was, and not just take Rutherford's side. Owners should be able to talk directly with players and address any issues with them.

[b]In reply to jacksparrow[/ incorrect, The team owners have to address their concerns to the the team management, but shouldn’t be allowed to contact any player directly. Players have their representatives to handle off field issues.

In reply to anthonyp


Ding ding. Musse think di caste system works with us.

In reply to Batbeforepad



What does that article have to do with discipline?

In reply to Edrich


In that team the owner is management. The man is owner, selector, coach, disciplinary committee etc.

50 yrs ago Clive n Babu were cappo, coach and bottle washer yet players could take matters up with team mgt. With the advancement of HR, sports mgt.and general human respect men looking back to 70's-80's model

In reply to Chrissy



The specifics of the caste systems in Africa vary among the ethnic groups. Some societies have a rigid and strict caste system with embedded slavery , whereas others are more diffuse and complex. Countries in Africa that have societies with caste systems include Mali , Mauritania , Senegal , Gambia , Guinea , Ivory Coast , Niger , Burkina Faso , Cameroon , Liberia , Sudan , Sierra Leone , Algeria , Nigeria , Chad , Ethiopia , Somalia , Djibouti , Eritrea and others.

hey ding ding...You weren't aware of the above, or you would not have made such a racist, asinine statement.

Has CWI and WIPA been notified of this incident? If yes, what are they doing about it?

I would like to see/hear their response to this serious allegation.

I only just ow read the piece. Rutherford has shown himself to be an intelligent young man who understands his sort and life. These are not the days when (effective or not) Packer can just walk into the dressing room and dress down (pun intended) men because he is their "paymaster" (pun not intended)

In reply to sgtdjones

Well I didn't know that a caste system exists in Africa.Thanks mate I learn something from posters on a regular basis.

In reply to sgtdjones

Is it a caste system or a tribal system that exists in Africa?

Yeah agreed. If he feel is pussycat Pant or pussycat Koli he was talking to, wheel and come again!!! Keep your subservient God and Money thinking for those who offer obeisance.

What was funny though was the immediate and robust defence of the caste system

Allyuh good oui!

In reply to Chrissy

That same owner doesn't know his place.

In reply to Halliwell

Oh really...

Then tell such to BCCI ...you don't want their caste , subservient god, and money?
Arent CWI complaining they want more money ... Naw, they wouldn't do such, would they?
Coz CWI owns the CPL.Dem Hindian owners better be warned. Don't tell the natives you want better production; dem might pack up an leave...
Gosh, how can I make such an error?

You don't worship a subservient God, blue-eyed blonde dude on a cross, huh?

In reply to dayne



"Remember, the Atlantic Slave trade was only possible because there were centralized African kingdoms willing to go into the interior, strategically attack villages, take hostages, bring them back to the coast and sell them. It would not be appropriate for a "tribal" society to do this consistently and effectively.African society was ever "tribal" ... that the term "tribe" was most often applied to African societies by colonial officials who didn't know what they were talking about."

TALKING ABOUT "TRIBE":
MOVING FROM
STEREOTYPES TO ANALYSIS

Caste system existed in various African countries.The development of caste systems across various regions of Africa remains an intricate and complex historical phenomenon. While exact timelines are difficult to pin down, scholars suggest that these systems likely emerged between the 9th and 15th centuries, influenced by a mix of socio-economic, cultural, and environmental factors within diverse ethnic groups. These hierarchies often reflected occupational roles, kinship ties, and local traditions, shaping the social fabric of numerous communities.

Recent breakthroughs in archaeogenetics have shed light on the longevity of some of these systems, revealing just how deeply rooted they are in human history. For instance, the Ari people of Ethiopia exhibit one of the oldest continuous caste systems still in existence in Africa. Their societal structure, characterized by occupational segregation and strict caste-based endogamy, highlights the enduring nature of these divisions. Genetic studies have provided critical evidence that these practices have been maintained over millennia, underscoring their historical significance.

In reply to Brerzerk



Didn't Packer do such... then we saw the end result , almost perfection.

A. I mentioned Packer in my 2nd comment, he couldn't do that today! By the way caste systems exist throughout the world if even socio-economic. But, no where I'm the world has an entrenched system as India (and it's outlier societies) which includes ensuring one group remain shit-cleaners

In reply to sgtdjones

You doubled down with Africans sold Africans???

When an IPL owner buys your farm and outdoor labs and put you to clean, you will need support.

In reply to Halliwell



If someone wants to buy our engineering and research facilities , they can make an offer, as Bechtel, Ontario Teachers Pension Fund et al.
I consulted my employees, and we said no. I will not sell.

You are saying that the BCCI cricketers are subservient to the board. Owing to what they don't have a WIPA?
So WIPA since Dinas left have not done the same ?
What has WIPA done for its players since Dinas left?

Agreed to over a 50% pay cut without their approval when touring India.
Some Comparisons to "the plantation mentality", Oh sorry , you dont recall..

BCCI has a pay system that does not require a WIPA; they are some of the highest paid worldwide.
Does the IPL have a WIPA? No. It pays a compensation package that no other entity can match.

Are players from the Caribbean subservient to such ? If they dont get what they want, they dont have to play...