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Sherfane Rutherford on CPL incident

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sgtdjones 1/12/25, 7:30:33 PM
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In reply to Halliwell

In reply to dayne

Is it a caste system or a tribal system that exists in Africa?


Now Halliwell
You doubled down with Africans sold Africans???


I didn't double down; I am answering a question. Can you see the difference?
I gave an explanation about a tribal system, and you are getting your bloomers in a knot.
Its ironic how you excluded the caste system in Africa but questioned the notation the owner made about such "a robust statement."

It begs the question, why?

I see selective goal posts changing... ok, I gats it.razz
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Raskil 1/12/25, 8:04:58 PM
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KL Rahul I believe had a similar issue with ownership.
Any chance to go after India some folks on this board lives for.

Ruthie has the right to set boundaries. Bollywood is not India. The most diverse country in the world on many counts cannot be simplified. I keep seeing a certain religious zealot do the same while ignoring the very obvious crimes against humanity because he identifies with.

Y’all want to eat with one hand and stab the ones putting food on the table with the other.

Anyway, y’all welcome Steve Smith again back to captaincy after sandpaper. The media has forgotten all about it as they usually do when it’s one of theirs.

Moments like M Holding kicking a stump will remain foremost.
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sgtdjones 1/12/25, 8:22:45 PM
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In reply to Brerzerk

Southern Ethiopia has a rich and diverse cultural history, and the social structures of various ethnic groups in the region reflect this complexity. Historically, some groups, such as the Gamo and Weyto, adopted forms of social stratification that bear similarities to caste systems. These systems, while distinct in their own cultural contexts, involve practices such as endogamy (marrying within one’s own group), occupational specialization, and hierarchies that affect social interaction and acceptance.

For example, the Gamo people are known to have had social divisions based on occupation. Artisans, often referred to as "qesso," held specialized roles within these communities, such as blacksmithing, weaving, or pottery. While their skills were essential to the functioning of society, their status was often viewed as subordinate or marginal in comparison to other groups. Similarly, groups labelled as "buda" were often stigmatized and associated with notions of impurity, which influenced how they were treated socially and culturally. These labels carried social and symbolic weight, shaping relationships and interactions within the broader community.

It’s worth noting that the use of terms like "qesso" and "buda" and the dynamics they represent as the Indian caste system, though there are parallels in terms of hierarchy and restrictions. The concept of caste in southern Ethiopia is deeply rooted in the region's unique historical, cultural, and ecological context, making direct comparisons to other systems, such as the Indian varna and jati, complex and often problematic




The "buda" were often stigmatized and associated with notions of impurity , sounds just as the ones in India .
googley 1/12/25, 8:24:51 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

No matter what you called it, any form of discrimination does not belong in society, past present and future.
sgtdjones 1/12/25, 8:31:25 PM
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In reply to jacksparrow

We should hear from the owner exactly what the conversation was, and not just take Rutherford's side. Owners should be able to talk directly with players and address any issues with them.


Exactly...can't go with one version. 3 sides to every story.

Remember, he is the owner; he pays the bills .

How many owners actually play the sport?
sgtdjones 1/12/25, 8:33:21 PM
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In reply to googley

Where was the discrimination, and how did it occur?

So if a player is deemed to have problems with his captain and others and is released...
Is such discrimination?
googley 1/12/25, 11:10:39 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

I was referring to the caste system vs tribal classifications.

I don't know enough to state for sure that Rutherford case was one of discrimination. However some owners can be over zealous and do stupid things.
sgtdjones 1/13/25, 1:48:32 AM
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In reply to googley

Look at Elon Musk; he is being taken to court for discrimination, illegal dismissal, etc...

And he is almost your president in waiting... He grew up in South Africa, where a caste system existed.
imusic 1/13/25, 2:19:26 AM
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Doesn’t a caste system exist in America today?

DEFINITION OF CASTE SYSTEM
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jacksparrow 1/13/25, 3:59:56 AM
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Brerzerk 1/13/25, 9:08:32 AM
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In reply to googley

A most profound post. Any kind.
Sargie as I Agree with Googley that all forms of discrimination is reprehensible I must add that impurity doesn't necessarily means thatvan impure one and their descendants are regulated/condemned to cleaning up the excrement of others. I salute PM Modi for one thing...the rapid construction of sanitary facilities
Trex 1/14/25, 5:15:02 PM
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In reply to shivnotout

What was Rutherford's response?
newdread 1/15/25, 11:10:40 AM
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In reply to Trex

An insightful question.
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