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Jamaica exported fuel oil to T&T??

Slipfeeler 2/1/25, 11:12:24 PM
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For the first time ever, Jamaica Petrojam is exporting fuel to Trinidad and Tobago and to that we're looking to a hundred a million barrels of fuel oil valued at about 90 million US. According to Telroy Morgan, the general manager at Petrojam, Jamaica's oil refinery.

According to tradingeconomics.com, Jamaica Exports of petroleum oils, oils obtained from bituminous minerals to Trinidad And Tobago was US$1.47 Million during 2023, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade.
Slipfeeler 2/1/25, 11:14:28 PM
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Can anyone on the ground in T&T or Yard, verify this, to make sure it’s not fake news?
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camos 2/1/25, 11:35:21 PM
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In reply to Slipfeeler

TT could be repairing their refinery and need to get the products elsewhere.
Slipfeeler 2/2/25, 12:32:22 AM
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What happened to Petrotrin?
granite 2/2/25, 11:17:22 PM
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The TT refinery was closed down when Rowley closed it down and put it up for sale,it was said to be in disrepair.Itwas put up for sale because he said they didn't have money for the repairs.Till now I haven't heard what has gone on,but heard an Indian billionaire wants to buy it but it turns out he is a dodgy character just like the PM Rowley.
Slipfeeler 2/2/25, 11:54:05 PM
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In reply to granite

Thanks Granite, we appreciate the update
Curtis 2/3/25, 1:57:35 AM
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Maybe a Yardie will take Soca Monarch this year
granite 2/3/25, 2:59:24 PM
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We may even get a Yardie PM and he/she might even be better than Rowley.lol
granite 2/3/25, 8:44:39 PM
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I saw some news on Facebook about the same exportation of oil from Jamaica,the man talking was from the Gulf oil company,he explained that it was to improve trading relationship between the 2 countries.I do know that TT imports oil from some countries,I never understood why they import but there must be a reason.TT in 2005 used to produce about 144000 barrels per day,today they produce 65000 barrels per day also,they have 35 years of oil still in off shore and inland.TT produced over 200000 barrels per day in the 80s.I suppose it is what most oil producing countries do,the fact that the USA takes oil from TT and other countrries,I won't be surprised if TT continues to import more from Jamaica in years to come,from what I read,it appears that Jamaica has a massive find potentially.
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sgtdjones 2/4/25, 5:33:56 AM
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Young: Buying bunker fuel from Jamaica a good deal

MINISTER of Energy and Energy Industries Stuart Young has sought to clarify recent news of a deal with Jamaica's refinery Petrojam Ltd by Paria Fuel Trading to secure marine fuel for bunkering in Trinidad and Tobago, saying the country has always imported fuel for marine sale.

Young spoke to reporters on February 3 after the launch of a National Energy Skills Centre Technical Institute (NESC-TI) programme in renewable energy. He said the only thing new about the arrangement is that it brokered a deal to obtain the fuel from Petrojam."All this transaction is, we're currently finalising the negotiation to purchase about 500,000 barrels of marine fuel which Paria has been purchasing.

"It is a promotion of our bilateral relationship with Jamaica of which I am very proud, because they're a close partner of ours, as well as Caricom. This is what Caricom is meant to be. So all we're doing is ensuring the principles of Caricom are carried out."He said this came after some two years of talks with Jamaica's Minister of Science, Energy, Telecommunications and Transport, Daryl Vaz.Pointe-a-Pierre MP and shadow minister for the ministry of energy David Lee, in a phone conversation with Newsday, described the development as “hurtful” for the people of TT.“Jamaica’s refinery is now supplying fuel to TT. This is after this government has closed down and abandoned our refinery. We are an oil-producing country and now we are dependent on Jamaica for fuel security. That is a tragedy in itself.”He added that Jamaica would also supply TT with bitumen, one of the key ingredients in road development and repair. He added that the Petrotrin refinery used to supply TT with bitumen.“We used to get the bitumen as a by-product of the operations from the refinery. We would give it to Lake Asphalt, who would then mix it with other materials to repair our roads. That is why you are seeing that now, our roads are in a horrendous state.”
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InHindsight 2/4/25, 9:20:28 AM
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I see you in ya element. You knowleable on something (local) after all. lol
Casper 2/4/25, 11:00:41 AM
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It’s sad to read this, if all is true. There is nothing wrong with Caricom states collaborating in this way, but what it is speaks to is how a oil-producing country like Trinidad has mismanaged this critical resource, primarily, I presume, through corruption.

But Trinidad is not alone. We only have to look to Africa and see numerous examples of the same thing where a small percentage of the population has benefited tremendously from this natural resource and the majority of the people are suffering and infrastructure is crumbling.

Furthermore, they have failed to adequately plan for diversification in their economies to meet the pending damage from climate change. And, as we are witnessing, white dominant countries don’t want to be invaded by immigrants trying to escape from the ravages of this new environment.

It will be interesting to see how Guyana manages the new found riches to be gained from its oil find. Will it bring shared prosperity or turmoil in the years ahead?
granite 2/4/25, 11:58:58 AM
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You got an Encyclopedia in ypur head mate.Here's a question,how many times have TT qualified for an Indoor Hockey World Cup.lol
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Slipfeeler 2/5/25, 3:06:30 AM
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It’s like Jamaica regarded as land of wood and water looking to import ice, and with all the sugar estates and manufacture, they say it’s cheaper to import sugar that to produce it locally.
sgtdjones 2/5/25, 4:34:10 AM
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In reply to InHindsight

Stick around and read what I write. I may learn ya ...razz

Its not the BS you post.
sgtdjones 2/5/25, 4:37:53 AM
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I dont follow such hockey.... I play this one below.razz

he was the best ...died so young

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sgtdjones 2/7/25, 2:02:30 PM
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Caroni, Petrotrin closures a grave mistake

The decisions to close Caroni (1975) Ltd and Petrotrin stand as glaring examples of short-sighted economic mismanagement that continue to haunt our nation today.
Instead of modernising and restructuring these industries for long-term sustainability, the PNM (People’s National Movement)-led administration chose to dismantle them—eliminating thousands of jobs, weakening national self-sufficiency, and for­cing us into a humiliating position of dependence on foreign imports.

Similarly, Petrotrin was not merely about crude oil extraction, it was a strategically important entity that provided fuel security, employment and foreign exchange revenue. Instead of addressing inefficiencies and investing in upgrades, the PNM administration opted for total closure, crippling the nation’s energy independence.

Now, in an ironic twist, Trinidad and Tobago—a country once renowned for its petroleum expertise—is importing fuel from Jamaica, a nation without our deep-rooted history in the energy sector. If Jamaica can operate a profitable refinery, why couldn’t Petrotrin be restructured to do the same?