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Kookaburra ball experiment!! Result ??

Onionman0 2/15/25, 1:08:19 PM
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This year...CWI using Kookaburra balls in regional 4- days.....keeping in mind the tours....in India & New Zealand....very good thinking by board....

Big runs being scored... bowlers with skill getting wickets....spin & fast..

England did this experiment in 2024...
PalsofMine 2/15/25, 2:30:21 PM
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it is certainly exposing the lack of skill of some bowlers!
robbo 2/15/25, 2:49:21 PM
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Yes…. A real dearth of ‘up and coming’ pace bowlers… anybody with anything like high pace.. bit depressing to be honest.
Onionman0 2/16/25, 5:33:49 AM
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Onionman0 2/16/25, 5:34:26 AM
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The difference between the balls is well-established: the Kookaburra is machine-made in Australia, while the Dukes is hand-stitched in the UK. "It doesn't swing as much as the Dukes," James Anderson explained on the Tailenders podcast. "There's a different lacquer that coats it… the Dukes, for some reason, swings more and for longer."

The idea came from Andrew Strauss' high-performance review, which highlighted the dearth of genuine pace and spin in English domestic cricket. "We aren't encouraging the development of the 'extreme' skills required to succeed in international cricket," the review said. It proposed a pilot trial to "test the impact on bowlers' skills development", and two rounds were played with the Kookaburra last summer.


The pilot has not been universally popular. Alec Stewart, Surrey's director of cricket, has described the Kookaburra's implementation as "the worst decision ever". Alfonso Thomas, the Leicestershire coach, said it has "made average batters look very good". When Somerset skipper Lewis Gregory was asked for his view, he replied: "Can I swear?"

The need to hit the deck hard with the Kookaburra has been offset by the fact that early season English decks are not hard. That also meant short-ball plans -- something bowlers turn to when a ball of any shape stops moving through the air -- were ineffectual. Some teams were also bemused that no two balls seemed to behave the same.
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Onionman0 2/16/25, 5:39:25 AM
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In reply to PalsofMine

The pitches are slow this time of year but watching medium-pacers is a waste of time. Teams need to find quicker bowlers or ones who will force a wicket. You can't just keep running up bowling at 75mph. And in terms of those guys who are not express, you really work out who can bowl. Sam Cook, that was seriously impressive what he did.

"Why do we think in India their batters come into the Test side averaging 70 [in the Ranji Trophy]? Do you think they're playing with a little nibbly Dukes ball where it's doing all sorts? What do we want to be? I want us to be the best team in the world for a generation; this will be one way to do that."


Some posters are getting very excited about centuries being scored..... but Bascombe, himself admitted that conditions are favouring batters... selection parameters would take into account.... several other aspects...both for bowlers and batters..
robbo 2/16/25, 10:14:21 AM
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Of course it’s always easy to be negative but yes.. the danger is that the big scores are close to being irrelevant… when run scoring is too easy then what do we learn from it ?

There is a real lack of challenge from fast, pacy bowlers because firstly the pitches are so slow and secondly… well they are not fast…80-82 is not fast and the region is full this type of bowler….. the young up and coming bowlers do not inspire much hope of confidence in me.

Let’s see what the second half of the season brings
4REALQUICKS 2/16/25, 11:20:45 AM
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Thankfully, Jayden Seales and Shamar Joseph will pose a genuine threat to any batting line up in the world. Those two young quicks are of the potentially elite class and West Indies simply must look after them. It would be nice to see a couple of rapid bowlers making their way through, nothing unsettles a batsman like real, quick pace bowling big grin
robbo 2/16/25, 12:15:06 PM
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Couldn’t agree more
PalsofMine 2/16/25, 4:04:23 PM
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are they not supposed to be changing the ball for the next few rounds? Yes, it is disappointing that we have not seen any new fast bowlers come forward. Thorne and Springer have disappeared. Shields, John and Louis have been unimpressive and Blades has really only had one good bowl as far as I remember. I am glad that the Force is giving James a fair amount of play this season and he has been economical but not particularly threatening. Phillip who had a good season last year has been almost invisible. In other words, so far we are going into the A team series with no real fast bowlers except probably Alimohammed as I expect we will rest Seales and Shamar for the tests.
Overthrow 2/16/25, 6:09:00 PM
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The wickets are providing a valuable lesson to pacers. Requires the use of guile and an analytical thought process in improving the craft on these less than favourable pitches. Those who can adapt should be in the forefront of the selectors minds.