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Cheeks 2/19/25, 4:42:00 PM
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...wasn't a hoax after all. Who would have thunk it?
carl0002 2/19/25, 4:52:43 PM
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You think you will get MAGA to believe that...they are just gonna chalk it up to the 2 bit dictator superior capitulation/caving/surrendering skills.

Whatever Russia got on Trump got to be potent. That peeing tape must be real.
SnoopDog 2/19/25, 5:33:07 PM
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At this point, does the Pee Pee tape even matter? Dotard nation couldn't care less and everyone else wouldn't be the least bit shocked.

I think he's heavily indebted financially to the Russian oligarchs, perhaps including Putin himself.
bravos 2/19/25, 7:29:25 PM
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Oh no,not the pee pee tapes again !! redface
carl0002 2/19/25, 8:01:38 PM
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No! pee tape makes no difference, MAGA probably view that as a badge of honor and the Evangelical Christians probably formalize it as new form of communion but you are right, there is some financial dealings that seem to suggest that Trump can come away with a clean slate if he hog tie and deliver Ukraine to Putin. It seems to be so lucrative that Donald Trump is hell bent on not only zeroing his account by delivering Ukraine but set up his own dictatorship and Oligarchy in the US and the GOP so willingly sit by watching. They probably think it will only be Democrats falling out of windows.
birdseye 2/19/25, 10:06:37 PM
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At this point, does the Pee Pee tape even matter?
Not at all. MAGA will say that’s what a real man does.
nick2020 2/19/25, 11:01:45 PM
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Inform the uninformed like myself
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XDFIX 2/19/25, 11:06:15 PM
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Trump is wrong and out of line regarding Ukraine - some would argue that Trump wants to lift sanctions against Russia and boost the US economy with a drop in oil prices! He did say all he cares about is the U.S.! Let's remember what Trump did to the Kurds!
birdseye 2/20/25, 12:00:47 AM
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Trump is all about Trump. Full Stop!
bravos 2/20/25, 2:00:43 AM
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My goodness allyuh prefer de bloodshed continue ? Why do you prefer one set of slavs over the next ? The US shouldn't have been involved in the first place . Dem peolple is family ! Oh god celebrate the end of de wholesale bloodshed at least nah..allyuh men sad yes...cold too...
Emir 2/20/25, 2:58:48 AM
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The irony is the Ukrainians and Easter Europeans are one set of racist people, they make the Brits seems like child play.

My Jamaican brothers have s saying something like this, cockroach have no business in fowl fight.
Brerzerk 2/20/25, 4:12:10 AM
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Wow! I am very close to someone who posits that for sure someone must've paid Trump to destroy Murca and that someone must be Putin.
They say as crazy and stupid as he is it couldn't that alone that's causing those decisions and utterances.
JahJah 2/20/25, 6:22:27 AM
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A lot Palestinians are racist as hell too. Even more racist than Ukrainians to boot. I have heavy experience with both here in Europe.

You really have no clue how deep anti-black racism runs in the Arab and Muslim world...our first slave masters. But what does that have to do with basic human rights?
Cheeks 2/20/25, 8:26:29 AM
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My goodness allyuh prefer de bloodshed continue ? Why do you prefer one set of slavs over the next ? The US shouldn't have been involved in the first place . Dem peolple is family ! Oh god celebrate the end of de wholesale bloodshed at least nah..allyuh men sad yes...cold too...


That's like saying...why didn't we just remain slaves to avoid the bloodshed of the revolts.

Man get a grip.

What you and Emir are missing is that DJT is about just trampling on the small and perceived weak. Just takeover Gaza, own Ukraine rare earth metals, claim Greenland, claim Panama Canal, what next...just takeover Trinidad because he wants to drill baby drill? OF course he doesn't 'want' bloodshed...he just wants capitulation and you seem to like the idea. The slave 'gene' is a real thing???
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Emir 2/20/25, 12:26:50 PM
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I am saying the US is no saint when it comes to regime change either by force or through CIA programs and we should know all about this. The US is a wicked imperialist regardless of who was the president and Trump is no different.

Right now, the majority of the world, outside of rich Europe is on the side of Russia or remains neutral on that war. Let them figure it out, why should poor Americans pay for this war?

The US taxpayer currently subsidize the wealthy Western European citizen- who I will add have great social welfare programs, for years now.

Our dislike for Trump should not result in us sanitizing the USA military sins over the years. Dais all.
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camos 2/20/25, 1:03:46 PM
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A lot Palestinians are racist as hell too. Even more racist than Ukrainians to boot.
That was sort of my first point when I criticize Biden for his approach, I pointed out that historically Jews have been more supportive of blacks, but basic human decency don't allow us to support the war.
nick2020 2/20/25, 2:17:05 PM
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My goodness allyuh prefer de bloodshed continue ?


I do not understand when you decided to be so Trumpian.

If Guyana decided to invade Trinidad and the solution was to just let them take over your country so that the bloodshed would end you would be the first to say not over your dead body.

Russia invaded Ukraine. They came up with a bunch of reasons why they did but this was not a country they were at war with prior to 2014. At the end of the day Ukraine went from a pro-Russia president (or you can insert the word puppet) to a pro-Western president (insert the phrase American puppet).

Is that a good enough reason for Russia to kill people? You tell me.
XDFIX 2/20/25, 2:28:24 PM
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A lot Palestinians are racist as hell too. Even more racist than Ukrainians to boot. I have heavy experience with both here in Europe.

You really have no clue how deep anti-black racism runs in the Arab and Muslim world...our first slave masters. But what does that have to do with basic human rights?


I have been shouting that line on this platform for ages - I see it on college campus!
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camos 2/20/25, 2:38:34 PM
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I remember posting that I am conflicted and you not agreeing.
Emir 2/20/25, 2:45:12 PM
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I am not sure why you felt it necessary to justify Eastern European racism by stating the now genocide victims are "racists." Really poor of you, this topic was about Russia and Ukraine. Eastern Europeans in the US are brutal against people of non white skin and they drive the white nationalism here. If you wanted to start a new thread about anti dark skin racism by some in the Arab world in another thread that would have been fine.


And prior to Islam in Arabia, when there were no Muslims, and Islam was not yet born under Muhammad, do you know who the slave holders were? Yes White Arabs from among the Quraesh- they were pagans, Jewish Arabs and Christian Arabs- there were no Muslim then and the religion founded by Muhammad was not born yet. And that was the golden era of African slaves in Arabia.

And more, those who converted to the new religion of Islam, had to first renounce slavery, they had to free and compensate their slaves, before Muhammed allowed them to join that new faith called Islam. And more, when Muhammad appointed his first chief officer, a man called Bilal, he was a freed slave.

Now, read up on the advent of Muhammad, and how he called slavery and racism a sin and how he stopped it, and please read up on the Muhammad Last Sermon on the mount, when the Muslim faith had taken root then. Modern day historians still rave about it.
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nick2020 2/20/25, 2:49:51 PM
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I am not sure why you felt it necessary


A few minutes earlier:

The irony is the Ukrainians and Easter Europeans are one set of racist people, they make the Brits seems like child play.


You brought in the Brits who have nothing to do with this either or did you forget you did that?
Emir 2/20/25, 2:51:49 PM
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It was correct context as the Brits colonized and oppressed us.

Now, read the other parts I wrote, if you are honest to yourself.

I told you Biden is not your uncle, now grow up
bravos 2/20/25, 2:57:27 PM
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Man its the bigger picture, the bloodshed! You dont get it ? Whoever brings an end to it I support them for that ! Why is it so hard to get !! Please refer to a video I posted in another thread ..
bravos 2/20/25, 3:07:49 PM
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I cant believe people are happy to let the bloodshed continue just to oppose Trump.

They still don't know how to deal with Trump, and that's why he will always live in their heads .

This Ukriane issue is the last box Trump has to check for a successful term from my point of view (reasonably set expectations) .

Good luck to the USA and the World , and good luck to my poor confused bitter fellow posters, release yourselves from Trump's grip , you're making him win, and you know he likes a winner !
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bravos 2/20/25, 3:09:50 PM
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Release the shackles brother !

Do it for YOU .
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