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sudden 4/3/25, 6:59:41 PM
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In reply to Brerzerk

for years the US exported its goods and service to the rest of the world

wasnt there a trading imbalance then?
Ayenmol 4/3/25, 7:08:50 PM
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Anyway. I have said enough on this...as usual, we will wait and see.

Then you all will tell me everyone was saying the same things i was.

Same o. Same o
VIX 4/3/25, 7:43:07 PM
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stocks - Apparel, footwear, specialty retail, consumer products etc

Down bigly.

Manufactured in shitehole countries you see. Tariff like dat
SnoopDog 4/3/25, 8:02:05 PM
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In reply to sudden


for years the US exported its goods and service to the rest of the world

wasnt there a trading imbalance then?


I'm still yet to find a dotard who can explain to me how the Dotard in Chief plans to redress trade deficits by forced domestic U.S. manufacturing, while maintaining the hegemony of a high value U.S. Dollar.

Essentially, which country in their right mind will buy/import U.S. made goods with a strong high value currency?

I'm hoping one of our resident dotards can shed some light on this.
Ayenmol 4/3/25, 8:02:40 PM
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In reply to sudden

for years the US exported its goods and service to the rest of the world


Yes....and the Countries realized it and started making adjustments....Most of them allowing these American companies to come to their Countries with promises of low labor cost and no worries of many basic human rights.

Now the US is fighting back. So what's your problem?

It is ok for everyone to look out for their citizens except the US?

Am stunned it took the US so long to act.

I have said this here before....so this is not me reacting. I have said the trade issue needed to be addressed.

I hate that this person is the one doing it and for sure there will be some unnecessary symptoms dure to how he operates....but this is largely good for the average American.

Will it solve all the issues? Hardly. But trade from a US perspective has been a nightmare.
Drapsey 4/3/25, 8:04:53 PM
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Look at what this Brit thinks of #47 and his Tariff-mania.

'When empires fall': British columnist aghast at 'single stupidest thing' Trump has done

Dunt found himself particularly appalled by the chart that Trump showed that contained wildly inflated figures about the tariffs foreign nations slap on American products.
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"It looked like something out of US daytime television – those garish cheaply produced shows where you can win a cash prize if you spin a wheel," he remarked. "You half expected a showgirl to appear behind the American flags, draped over a tariff quota rate. That’s what he is really: a cheap knock-off daytime TV presenter."

"It’s hard to state just how nonsensical that actually is," he wrote. "You might as well divide the numbers of apples in your kitchen by the number of bagels and use it to calculate your mortgage rate. To criticise it on political or economic grounds is too generous. It operates below the level of rational thought."
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SnoopDog 4/3/25, 8:08:45 PM
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Yes....and the Countries realized it and started making adjustments....Most of them allowing these American companies to come to their Countries with promises of low labor cost and no worries of many basic human rights.

Now the US is fighting back. So what's your problem?

It is ok for everyone to look out for their citizens except the US?

Am stunned it took the US so long to act.

I have said this here before....so this is not me reacting. I have said the trade issue needed to be addressed.

I hate that this person is the one doing it and for sure there will be some unnecessary symptoms dure to how he operates....but this is largely good for the average American.

Will it solve all the issues? Hardly. But trade from a US perspective has been a nightmare.


Stick to bronze age superstition Bro.
googley 4/3/25, 9:16:08 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

I'm hoping one of our resident dotards can shed some light on this


Hold on...they busy listening to Faux news for talking points. razz
Chrissy 4/3/25, 9:19:25 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog
Dem cyan answer
JOJO 4/3/25, 9:22:12 PM
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In reply to Ayenmol

Now the US is fighting back. So what's your problem?

It is ok for everyone to look out for their citizens except the US?

Am stunned it took the US so long to act.

I have said this here before....so this is not me reacting. I have said the trade issue needed to be addressed.


Welcome back! And thanks for reminding me of how much of a clueless idiot you are.
Chrissy 4/3/25, 9:24:13 PM
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LOL - meanwhile

Jeremy Siegel The Wharton School university of Pennsylvania on
Bloomberg said this is the worst economic policy decision in over a hundred years, comparable to the
Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act with zero congressional input is a complete disaster.
Chrissy 4/3/25, 9:47:59 PM
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Dan Rather speaks the truth

When a clown moves into a palace he does not become a king,
the palace instead becomes a circus
JOJO 4/3/25, 10:49:27 PM
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Another nugget from a well-known economist on twitterbig grin

It’s now clear that the Trump Administration computed reciprocal tariffs without using tariff data. This is to economics what creationism is to biology, astrology is to astronomy, or RFK thought is to vaccine science. The Trump tariff policy makes little sense EVEN if you believe in protectionist mercantilist economics.
hubert 4/3/25, 10:52:45 PM
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Man you have me laughing all day with those nuggets lol
Chrissy 4/3/25, 11:32:33 PM
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In reply to JOJO
Too goodlol
sgtdjones 4/4/25, 12:50:26 AM
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In reply to SnoopDog

​Snoopy, your question asked above is complex, it examines how economic policy, currency valuation, and global trade dynamics interact.
My explanation and the theory behind such a strategy—and some of its inherent contradictions.

The Theory Trump Advocates
Donald Trump's trade policy during his presidency emphasized reducing trade deficits by prioritizing domestic manufacturing. By implementing policies like import duties, renegotiating trade agreements (such as NAFTA to USMCA), and providing incentives for domestic manufacturing, his administration seeks to accomplish this. The underlying goal was to encourage companies to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and reduce reliance on foreign goods.

The idea was that by producing more goods domestically, the U.S. could reduce its trade imbalances, particularly with countries like China, which has historically maintained a trade surplus with the U.S.

The Contradiction with a Strong Dollar

Here’s where the problem arises. The U.S. dollar, as the world's reserve currency, tends to remain strong because of global demand for dollars in trade, investment, and as a safe-haven asset. A strong dollar reduces the competitiveness of U.S.-made goods on the international market by making them more expensive for other nations to buy. This creates a fundamental tension in the strategy:

Strength of the Dollar: If the U.S. dollar remains high in value, U.S. exports become pricier for foreign buyers. Countries searching for less expensive options are more likely to purchase goods from countries with weaker currencies and more reasonably priced goods, such as China or Mexico.

Trade Deficits: A strong dollar naturally makes it harder to reduce trade deficits because it encourages imports (foreign goods are cheaper for Americans to buy) while discouraging exports (U.S. goods become too expensive for other countries).

How Could This Work in Theory?

For Trump’s strategy to succeed, a few things would need to happen simultaneously:

Protectionism: Trump sought to increase the cost of foreign goods for American consumers by enacting tariffs on imports, which would compel them to buy domestically made goods instead. Regardless of currency value, this generates a fictitious demand for domestically produced goods.

Domestic Consumption Focus: If the U.S. relies less on exports and focuses on fulfilling domestic demand, then the strong dollar matters less. The idea would be to create a self-sufficient economy where Americans buy primarily U.S.-made goods, reducing reliance on cheaper foreign imports.

Selective Export Markets: Certain industries, like high-tech or luxury goods, are less sensitive to price. The U.S. could focus on exporting high-value products where the strong dollar has less impact because buyers are willing to pay a premium (e.g., Boeing airplanes, advanced technology, pharmaceuticals).

Challenges to the Theory being a unique module in Economics

Global Trade Realities: Forcing domestic manufacturing does not guarantee competitiveness. Labour costs in the U.S. are significantly higher than in many developing countries, and without advanced automation or subsidies, U.S.-made goods remain expensive.

Retaliatory Tariffs: The market for American exports was further diminished when other nations could (and did) impose their own tariffs in retaliation on American goods.

High Dollar Dependency: The U.S. benefits from a high dollar because it makes borrowing cheaper and sustains its role as the global reserve currency. This, however, runs counter to the objective of increasing the competitiveness of American goods abroad. Weakening the dollar intentionally would undermine global confidence in the currency.

Global Supply Chains: Modern manufacturing often depends on international supply chains. Forcing everything to be made domestically could disrupt industries reliant on cheaper foreign inputs, increasing costs for American companies and consumers.

Why Would Other Countries Buy U.S. Goods?

The key here is that it’s not just about price. U.S. goods tend to be competitive in areas where quality, innovation, and brand value outweigh cost concerns. For example:

Advanced technology (e.g., semiconductors, AI tools)
Pharmaceuticals and medical equipment
Aerospace and defense products
High-end consumer goods (e.g., Apple products, luxury brands)

However, for more price-sensitive industries like textiles, consumer electronics, or general manufacturing, other countries would be less inclined to buy U.S.-made goods with a strong dollar. Trump’s plan hinges on the idea of reshaping the U.S. economy to focus on self-reliance and domestic demand while selectively targeting export markets for high-value goods.
However, the inherent contradiction between promoting domestic manufacturing and maintaining a strong dollar makes it difficult to achieve both goals simultaneously. In reality, the strategy would likely require either tolerating a weaker dollar (to boost exports) or accepting that the trade deficit might persist due to the structural advantages of cheaper foreign goods.

This delicate balancing act is much easier to imagine than to execute in practice.

My explanation... Sarge

Note: No one in Trump's cabinet is intelligent enough to think of such a risky theory; where did this come from???
Honestly, it’s hard to see this theory working fully in practice, at least not without significant trade-offs that might undermine the very goals it’s trying to achieve.
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XDFIX 4/4/25, 1:48:00 AM
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In reply to sgtdjones

Risky but not foolhardy!

Trump is playing his cards, to get to his objective of boosting the American economy - the manufacturing sector in particular!

I like disruption!

Time will tell how it all pans out!

Now look for the tax cut and lowering of interest rates!
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michaelmax 4/4/25, 2:13:06 AM
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Have you read history? This foolishness the last time led to the Great Depression and to World War Two. EVERYTHING the US imports will now be more expensive and they have NEITHER the manufacturing capacity nor the necessary skills nor education levels to do manufacturing at home. Not to mention that plants take years to come online. In stronger manufacturing domestic markets which retaliate it means the US will export SIGNIFICANTLY less leading to a depreciation of the US dollar. Countries are likely to look to re-orient trade AWAY from the US and start moving toward removing the dollar as the currency of international trade. Trump is AN IDIOT. He is NOT playing chess. He is STUPID and doesn't understand how economies work. Your own assessment explains a LOT about you and HOW you think and it is NOT sensibly.
sgtdjones 4/4/25, 2:35:47 AM
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NO. Trump is Taking Americans low IQ and memory lapses away from this disaster ....
Tax cuts did nothing for the US economy; corporations bought back their shares.
Trump cannot lower interest rates.

He will bomb the Iranian mountains.His way to ease the confused Americans

When their economy collapses, redneck Americans will celebrate by beating their chests. WE bombed Iran...

What a sad bunch...rolleyes
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XDFIX 4/4/25, 2:40:44 AM
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Bro, we are nowhere near the Great Depression! The electorate voted for Trump, so what does that make them? I have no dog in this fight!

I would argue that this is a temporary measure by Trump to achieve his long-term objectives - nothing more, nothing less!
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XDFIX 4/4/25, 3:25:35 AM
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I agree with you on the Iran, take!
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JahJah 4/4/25, 8:27:16 AM
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The electorate voted for Trump, so what does that make them?


dumbasses.

I thought this was already established.
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hubert 4/4/25, 12:28:52 PM
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lollol
Chrissy 4/4/25, 1:13:15 PM
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Leff dem
Chrissy 4/4/25, 1:15:37 PM
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As di Trinis would seh 34% in a dem pweffen.lol
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