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Raskil 4/13/25, 5:51:22 PM

debut: 11/13/02
13,399 runs

Alex Heles lost an entire international career because he couldn’t be trusted!

Permaul is done internationally and should be domestically also.

The other two, well they need some sort of discipline and rehab in ethics.

Give another team the title.

Overthrow 4/13/25, 6:07:36 PM

debut: 3/24/21
1,910 runs

In reply to anthonyp

What a ridiculous post.

anthonyp 4/13/25, 6:25:39 PM

debut: 11/2/09
12,784 runs

In reply to Overthrow

Of course it is.. just as ridiculous as yours.

Overthrow 4/13/25, 6:35:13 PM

debut: 3/24/21
1,910 runs

Think rationally. Pooran was picking on a thread on the ball, which is a strict no, no. The bowlers in question brought a foreign object into the field of play to alter the condition of the ball thereby creating an advantage. This has to be continuous behaviour over time.

anthonyp 4/13/25, 6:37:16 PM

debut: 11/2/09
12,784 runs

In reply to Overthrow

Huh? They brought a foreign object on to the field? Where did you get that from? Which one of the releases stated that?

Least you could do is post a link to that bit of news. Thanks in advance.

On a side note... what was the purpose of 'picking' on the ball or whatever you claim that he did... isn't it the same as tampering the ball to gain unfair advantage?

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Overthrow 4/13/25, 6:51:46 PM

debut: 3/24/21
1,910 runs

In reply to anthonyp

Did you miss the part where the umpire checked pockets?

anthonyp 4/13/25, 6:57:20 PM

debut: 11/2/09
12,784 runs

In reply to Overthrow

Did they find anything in the pockets? Still waiting for this link.

Onionman0 4/13/25, 7:30:08 PM

debut: 3/6/20
4,520 runs

Why this unnecessary infighting....

. everyone accepts the act of ball tampering shameful...
Enquiry must be made....that enquiry should be conducted by CWI.... Shallow should be head ....white paper within fortnight...till then Title on hold...

If proven, the conspiracy ran deep...points dock....both players have accepted their guilt....only thing left...if management was hand in glove... incident occurred twice....in both innings.... connivance of seniors including coach and captain should be looked into....

sgtdjones 4/13/25, 7:41:07 PM

debut: 2/16/17
39,040 runs

In reply to anthonyp

Why did they plead guilty?

Halliwell 4/13/25, 8:40:00 PM

debut: 5/14/05
24,340 runs

Accountability and effective oversight didn’t just appear overnight across the region.

Nothing
Will
Happen

Move on

Overthrow 4/13/25, 8:58:58 PM

debut: 3/24/21
1,910 runs

They plead guilty because they were innocent. I was of the opinion one particular poster had the integrity of WI cricket at heart. Just been schooled the poster is incredibly naive.

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anthonyp 4/13/25, 9:28:18 PM

debut: 11/2/09
12,784 runs

In reply to sgtdjones

Maybe you could help your countryman to find the link. He can't seem to find it.

Thanks in advance.

Didn't Pooran admit to tampering the ball too? Does that make ever single match that he played in questionable?

De point I am trying to make is you can't go about saying all the people trophies are questionable without any proof. Yes those two clowns tainted this one, but to say all of their trophies are tainted without any evidence is ludicrous.

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voiceofreason 4/13/25, 11:18:55 PM

debut: 1/20/04
91,058 runs

The real question is how long has this been going on as I am sure this is not a one match situation. An inquiry must be ordered by the CWI as this is akin to the Patriot's spygate scandal.

StumpCam 4/13/25, 11:30:02 PM

debut: 1/1/04
12,739 runs

In reply to voiceofreason

Why would you think that when every match was recorded??? Why do you guys want to introduce evidence that doesn’t exist based on a feeling ??? Steuuups!

sgtdjones 4/13/25, 11:58:19 PM

debut: 2/16/17
39,040 runs

In reply to anthonyp

The players pleaded guilty, but why if there was no evidence?

Do you understand my sentence above?

anthonyp 4/14/25, 12:35:44 AM

debut: 11/2/09
12,784 runs

In reply to sgtdjones

Gonna engage you for the last time. Could you and Badree post the link to where they found objects in their pockets?

If not, there's no need to continue this conversation.

Narper 4/14/25, 1:28:11 AM

debut: 1/4/03
263,222 runs

The charge was laid by on-field umpires Christopher Taylor and Kashif Sandy after the end of the first day.

Permaul admitted to the offence and accepted the sanction proposed by match referee Michael Ragoonath, and as such, there was no need for a formal hearing.

Meanwhile, Anderson was fined 90 per cent of his match fee for a similar offence during Red Force’s second innings on day three. He accepted the sanction proposed by the match referee, and as such, there was no need for a formal hearing

All Level 2 breaches carry a minimum penalty of a fine of between 50–100 per cent of the applicable match fee and/or a ban of one match and/or two one-day matches

In each instance the ball was changed, with the batting team given the option to choose.

link

Narper 4/14/25, 1:40:22 AM

debut: 1/4/03
263,222 runs

the part below don't make sense as the players accepted the penalties and did not contest it.....did someone advise them to do so? Why didnt Imlach protest the ball changes?

When asked what was used to alter the state of the ball, Imlach said, “Nothing was used. (The umpires) just said they saw some foreign substance on the ball. Guys are using sunscreen and stuff like that and if they sweat it’s going to run down. I don’t know if that’s what happened. I didn’t get to touch the ball on the first occasion. They just said they saw something and I wasn’t allowed to touch the ball.

“The second time around, there was absolutely nothing (on the ball). When I did touch the ball, I didn’t feel anything. It just came down to the umpires making a decision with no real evidence to support anything. It doesn’t look good, but it’s out of our control now.”

sgtdjones 4/14/25, 1:42:46 AM

debut: 2/16/17
39,040 runs

In reply to anthonyp

Is your head really this hard?

Umpires send a report to management; the players are then called to a hearing.
They pleaded guilty, so no formal hearing was required?
This is what I am basing my comment upon.

Show me where I mentioned Badree?

Narper posted above what the players pleaded guilty too!!!!!

Your defence is futile.

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anthonyp 4/14/25, 1:48:19 AM

debut: 11/2/09
12,784 runs

In reply to sgtdjones

Oh skunt.. are all Trini's this slow?

Badree posted earlier that they found objects in the players pocket. Where the fcuk did I say they weren't guilty?

Your country man made a statement that they found objects in the players pockets... all I am asking for is the damn evidence. If you and the other one can't produce it then stfu.

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sgtdjones 4/14/25, 1:52:04 AM

debut: 2/16/17
39,040 runs

In reply to anthonyp

I don't care what any countryman says ....

Why do Caribbean nationals bring up irrelevant facts to justify positions?

Guyana Harpy Eagles players Veerasammy Permaul, Kevlon Anderson, and Ronaldo Alimohamed have been found guilty of breaching the Cricket West Indies Code of Conduct in the seventh and final round of the West Indies Championship match against Trinidad & Tobago Red Force at Queen’s Park Oval.

The players pleaded guilty, but why if there was no evidence?

I posted my facts, and you are playing fcking games.

You are closing in on idiots territory sadly.

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anthonyp 4/14/25, 2:24:53 AM

debut: 11/2/09
12,784 runs

In reply to sgtdjones

Well if you don't care what your countryman man says then stay in yuh lane.. is me and he was having a discussion.

I asked him to provide information on what he said and to date he cant. Now you with some dotish crap that everybody already know on the post.

When yuh was small you were always left out of things right? That would explain a whole lot.

sgtdjones 4/14/25, 4:01:37 AM

debut: 2/16/17
39,040 runs

In reply to anthonyp

It shows your stupidity when you cannot answer an uncomplicated question and resort to obfuscation.

Not a problem simpleton... cool

anandgb 4/14/25, 4:06:38 AM

debut: 11/13/02
86,802 runs

In reply to Narper

Sad Behavior.

Halliwell 4/14/25, 5:28:19 AM

debut: 5/14/05
24,340 runs

It didn’t take long

Now it clear for all to see

Nothing is ever bad enough

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