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Passenger Sammy vs Successful WI Captain Powell

 
Slipfeeler 2025-04-20 12:11:56 

Sammy the Passenger who was given a free ride during his tenure as West Indies Captain has opted to replace a very successful Rovman Powell, who took WI from 9th to 3rd place in ICC Ranking. Continuing CWI recent history of uncertainty and confusion in WI cricket, demonstrated by opposition and concerns by fans around the region, especially from Dwayne Bravo, former West Indies Star Allrounder. Obviously, West Indies cricket is already in the dumps and heading nowhere with these type of nonsensical, egotistical and self aggrandizing, power hungry displays, which only seeks to distract players and will reduce our momentum in T20 cricket. Rather Shameful display by Sammy and others in CWI who supported this despicable decision.

 
natty_forever 2025-04-20 12:14:29 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Seems there is a Trump like executive order. No Yaadie should...

 
Fivestar 2025-04-20 13:43:26 

Here is my two cents on the issue. Powell was a successful captain but Sammy said he was being replaced due to his batting. It seems to me Sammy should have retained Powell as captain and given him the opportunity to improve his batting.

 
Slipfeeler 2025-04-20 17:06:27 

In reply to Fivestar

Sammy is now the Trump in West Indies cricket, both egotistical looking for respect and power, and willing to destroy success.

 
anthonyp 2025-04-20 17:21:02 

Lol what?

I'm not Sammy fan but yall seriously think Powell is a more successful captain than Sammy?

Last I checked Sammy captained two world cup winning sides. Yes, you could argue that he was a passenger but the same could be said of Powell... just throw the ball to a wrist spinner and Powell goes into hiding.

He was rightfully sacked as captain. Get over it. The only consistent white ball player in the region was rightfully given the captaincy! Well done CWI.

 
Narper 2025-04-20 17:43:03 

In reply to anthonyp

just throw the ball to a wrist spinner and Powell goes into hiding.

So who doesn't go into hiding in de WI team?wink

Not much in the difference in T 20I averages between Hope, Pooran , Rutherford and Powell

 
natty_forever 2025-04-20 17:47:37 

In reply to anthonyp

You insular fackers.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-20 17:52:40 

Everybody is insular except Nutty _ forever and Slipperyfella. Did Sammy take away the captaincy and give it to a St.Lucian or a Windwards or Leewards' player? Allyuh so dotish it ent funny.

 
cricketmad 2025-04-20 17:55:00 

Divided we fall ........

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-20 17:56:51 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Sammy won 2 worldcups and has a highest winning percentage of any West Indian T20 Captain. I trust his judgment more than a slippery fella. Let Voopman bat for his position.

 
natty_forever 2025-04-20 17:59:24 

In reply to voiceofreason

How is it as a coach. As a Captain got help fr9m the coach. As coach...the thing is, if Sammy wasn't yours, I can imagine the nick name.

 
anthonyp 2025-04-20 18:21:32 

In reply to Narper

Overall their numbers are similar... but if you go on current form, Hope is ahead of all of them. Plus overall, Powell played over 90+ t20i compared to Shai, who played 38 or so.

Their numbers over the past two years.

Hope

Last 2 years - avg. 36.20 with a S/R of 150.41
Last 12 months - avg. 42.25, S/R 164.07

Specialist skippa

Last 2 years - avg. 27.67, S/R 142.72
Last 12 months - avg. 24.16, S/R 128.31

Based on those numbers you could clearly understand why the dude was sacked as skipper.

 
anthonyp 2025-04-20 18:21:50 

In reply to natty_forever

Thank you.

 
Slipfeeler 2025-04-20 18:24:32 

In reply to anthonyp

Marlon Samuels won those two World Cups for West Indies. Can you tell in details what Sammy did with both bat and ball, when he could not even buy a run or a wicket??

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-20 18:29:23 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Yes Marlon was there at the end and hit the winning runs:

Slippery fella rewriting history

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-20 18:30:51 

In reply to anthonyp

Hit them with the Stats. not only that but it helps when you have some continuity in white ball cricket captaincy. The ODI team has been moving up, while the T20I team has been moving down.

 
anthonyp 2025-04-20 18:30:56 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Twist it and turn it all you want at the end of the day Sammy will go down a a WI captain who won two world cups.

As for his performance, it's on par with Powell. Heck, at this point I think Powell recent numbers are worse. Let Powell relax, go and somehow learn to bat spin and hopefully come back better.

Again, the right choice was made. Shai Hope deserves the captaincy!

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-20 18:52:03 

Rovman Powell in 37 matches as captain has won 19 and lost 17 for a 53% win record.
Darren Sammy in 47 matches as Captain has won 28 and lost 17 for a 62% win record.
MS Dhoni one of the greatest captains in recent times: 72 matches, 42 wins 28 losses for 60%.

 
JoeGrine 2025-04-20 21:48:45 

In reply to voiceofreason

1. Sammy is an opportunist who cleverly took his opportunity and, after assessing the situation, realized his best bet was to hide in the background while Gayle, Samuels, etc. performed to the tune of 2 World Cup victories. I give him credit for cleverly hiding his worthlessness.

2. Rovman Powell was a decent captain, and since his captaincy was not in dispute, rather it was his batting, it will be interesting to see how many other failing batters get demoted.

3. I am not here to advocate for Powell, Hope or any other captain, I am here to point out that each of your posting is a reminder that you were improperly named.



Rovman Powell in 37 matches as captain has won 19 and lost 17 for a 53% win record.
Darren Sammy in 47 matches as Captain has won 28 and lost 17 for a 62% win record.
MS Dhoni one of the greatest captains in recent times: 72 matches, 42 wins 28 losses for 60%.


I know you majored in deception and minored in bias during your years in academia, just the same, doesn't common sense tell you that you cannot fairly compare the statistics of a man who captained 72 matches with one who captained 47?

Now to the Powell statistics that you put up, let me ask you. Does the WI Test or ODI captain have a winning record?

Secondly, don't you find it strange that a man who was an abject failure with bat and ball as captain is now sacking someone who is not doing well with the bat? I ask this question against the backdrop of your educational major and minor.

 
Brerzerk 2025-04-20 22:17:33 

In reply to voiceofreason

You Sir has no idea of the difference between numbers on a paper and statistics. Where does Powell bat in T20I and where does Hope? Hoping against hope (pun intended) that you can understood the difference

 
natty_forever 2025-04-21 02:00:50 

In reply to voiceofreason

The one day team has what? You're getting desperate.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-21 02:04:09 

In reply to JoeGrine

I see your hate for Sammy has aged like sour puss but there is no need to rewrite or distort history.

In the first World cup championship Sammy's 26 off 15 and 2 overs 2/6 contributed greatly to the win but haters like you would pretend that never happened. The greatness of any leader is to know and understand his limitations and delegate where necessary.

Scorecard

In regards to Sammy vs Dhoni since you want to get technical I did some digging: At 45 T20IS Dhoni had won 26 and lost 19 so 58%. Less than Sammy!

Help yourself



Now to the Powell statistics that you put up, let me ask you. Does the WI Test or ODI captain have a winning record?

No they don't currently but West Indies has not had any reasonable success in those formats since yes Sammy went 6-0 as captain in tests and got them to top 5. The one format where we had meteoric success was T20I, so Rovman unfortunately had big shoes to fill and fell short.


Abject failure you say. Batting at 8 with a 147 s/r is an abject failure? 44 wickets with a 20.8 s/r and a 5/46 best haul abject you say. Too bad the stats do not support your assertion.

Sammy is in charge now so get over it. I am waiting for you and your classless cronies to re-start your donkey chants and attacks on his wife.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-21 02:17:47 

AIn reply to natty_forever

Why don't your lazy ass go look up the stats yourself:

Shai Hope as ODI Captain won 15 and lost 14 and in his last 9 matches as Captain WI have one 6 and lost 3.

Rovman's last 10 T20IS as captain 2-8.

 
natty_forever 2025-04-21 02:23:42 

In reply to voiceofreason

And we are ranked where? Moving up would suggest a movement in the rankings. Or that don't count.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-21 02:25:09 

In reply to Brerzerk Powell has batted in the top 6 for most of his T20I Career: 73 out of 79 games in the top 6.

Rovman Powell

You worse than Slipperyfella.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-21 02:36:10 

In reply to natty_forever

We were so far behind when Sammy took over that it took some time to get close but we are now within 10 of the Top 8 for automatic qualification for the 2027 Worldcup:


Hosts South Africa and Zimbabwe will qualify automatically for the tournament, along with the top eight teams in the ICC ODI rankings as of 31 March 2027.[6] The remaining four places will be decided through qualifying tournaments.

Team ODI Rankings

Wins vs Ireland, England later Pakistan should improve our ranking further. For the first time in a long time we have some support for Shai Hope with Rutherford and Carty averaging 70 + and 40+ while Jangoo and Greaves have started well.

 
XDFIX 2025-04-21 03:12:32 

Black people unite!

 
natty_forever 2025-04-21 03:52:21 

In reply to voiceofreason

You are a joke. Carry on.

 
natty_forever 2025-04-21 03:53:35 

In reply to XDFIX

Too late. Yaadies cannot take a hint. We need leave.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-21 04:31:16 

In reply to XDFIX

Agreed! Unite behind Sammy! After all we endured Super Dave and his shenanigans.

 
natty_forever 2025-04-21 08:24:24 

In reply to voiceofreason

In order to defend Sammy, I am watching how low you can go!

 
JoeGrine 2025-04-21 09:58:54 

In reply to voiceofreason


I see your hate for Sammy has aged like sour puss but there is no need to rewrite or distort history.


The clown is not worth my hating. I am simply saying he was clever enough to hide his incompetence as a batter and bowler.

In the first World cup championship Sammy's 26 off 15 and 2 overs 2/6 contributed greatly to the win but haters like you would pretend that never happened.


You pointed out ONE match, the joker that you are.



In regards to Sammy vs Dhoni since you want to get technical I did some digging: At 45 T20IS Dhoni had won 26 and lost 19 so 58%. Less than Sammy!


Find a captain with identical record to your hero otherwise the comparison is never credible. Selecting a point to make a reference doesn't wash. Sammy is from your joint, and your academic majors will never allow you to see the clown he was as a player. I get that.



Now to the Powell statistics that you put up, let me ask you. Does the WI Test or ODI captain have a winning record?


I never put up any Powell statistics you did, so we can move on.


No they don't currently but West Indies has not had any reasonable success in those formats since yes Sammy went 6-0 as captain in tests and got them to top 5. The one format where we had meteoric success was T20I, so Rovman unfortunately had big shoes to fill and fell short.


So given your reasoning if your "god" is to be fair we can expect a sacking of the ODI captain, correct?



Sammy is in charge now so get over it. I am waiting for you and your classless cronies to re-start your donkey chants and attacks on his wife.

I have never called the clown a donkey. Regarding his family (wife), I have never gone there but be very careful what you are saying to JOE GRINE!!!!!!!

 
Slipfeeler 2025-04-21 11:40:44 

In reply to voiceofreason

Voice of Deception (VOD) again, true colours return, deceiving the masses always his mantra but have to respect his unwavering support of his teams, since I always support the Yardies, who are usually mistreated by CWI selectors and Coaches, of course, passenger Sammy is no exception to that rule. Seems like a rite of passage among certain islanders big grin

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-21 16:21:09 

In reply to JoeGrine


I have never called the clown a donkey. Regarding his family (wife), I have never gone there but be very careful what you are saying to JOE GRINE!!!!!!!


Yet you called him a clown! You may not have gone that far but you sure did nothing to condemn those attacks! We will forgive but we will never forget!

You pointed out ONE match, the joker that you are.


That one match happened to be the World Cup final!


So given your reasoning if your "god" is to be fair we can expect a sacking of the ODI captain, correct?


I only have one God I believe in Jehovah! I have been chosen to defend my fellow Revo and will do so once warranted.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-21 16:23:31 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Jahmar Hamilton played 1 solitary test and was never seen again. Other keepers have gone past him. He amassed 573 runs this season and would have had more if not for an unfortunate concussion. Yet no word of him being given consideration for WI selection.

Time to Rally! Sammy is the Man with the plan!

 
Slipfeeler 2025-04-22 13:16:17 

In reply to voiceofreason

VOD why you had to bring up the “Donkey” Monika, when everyone else had basically forgotten about it, I thought you were in support of Sammy big grinbig grin

 
natty_forever 2025-04-22 15:47:21 

In reply to voiceofreason

Should a known you were a wickedness!

 
natty_forever 2025-04-22 15:49:08 

The man that gives names to players more than anyone here a bawl. Hypocrit.

 
natty_forever 2025-04-22 15:51:27 

Yaadies, we surrounded by hypocrits.

 
Slipfeeler 2025-04-22 18:14:36 

In reply to natty_forever

I knew that from years ago that’s why I became the unofficial voice for the Yardies, back then all the Dotties were criticizing Yardie players, even Gayle, the last Great West Indian to score a double triple in test cricket and there was no one to push back against them.

 
natty_forever 2025-04-23 03:25:04 

In reply to Slipfeeler

And now bigging up mediocrity. Miss Lou would say...

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-24 03:12:37 

In reply to natty_forever

Oshame is a name well deserved as he should be ashamed about his fitness and inability to bowl properly.

 
JoeGrine 2025-04-24 08:31:33 

In reply to voiceofreason

At least Oshane bowls while he outwardly hides.

 
natty_forever 2025-04-24 12:05:17 

In reply to voiceofreason

Can you provide his stats for rhe season?

 
PalsofMine 2025-04-24 13:54:49 

Perhaps it is useful to point out that Captain Fantastic Powell's rise to fame coincided with Sammy's appointment as coach?? And if you are to be praised for your captaincy, a man who won two World Cups should objectively be ranked above one whose team could not even make it out of Super 8s. Sammy had Marlon, Powell had the T20 cricketer of the year.

Just making points for making points sake as I have no horse in the race.

 
JoeGrine 2025-04-24 15:02:23 

In reply to PalsofMine


Just making points for making points sake as I have no horse in the race.


Then make accurate points. In addition to Samuels there was Gayle etc.
Powell had.....
Now since I am being balanced, unlike you, sammy had to deal with a passenger.

 
Brerzerk 2025-04-24 15:30:45 

In reply to voiceofreason

How did Dave get foisted on the WI cricket fans? Who was Hunte's VP under Hilaire since Hilaire was the dog wagging Hunte the tail? Post Hunte who helped to vote him in? Was it reward for his lying in support of Hilaire and against senior players? Who was Cameron's VP? Yuh fullo...

 
tc1 2025-04-24 23:42:14 

In reply to Slipfeeler

How do you measure success, someone post that Powell % of wins were below .500..
Is success measured as a numerical or is it measure against pass performance .

 
Slipfeeler 2025-04-26 21:27:43 

In reply to tc1

Success is based on moving a West Indies team from 9th position to 3rd position, I cannot recall Sammy having any similar achievement, despite the team of superstars around him, so much that Donald Trump could have been Captain of WI team, and it would not have affected the team’s success.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-26 21:58:48 

In reply to Slippery Fella



Success is based on moving a West Indies team from 9th position to 3rd position, I cannot recall Sammy having any similar achievement, despite the team of superstars around him, so much that Donald Trump could have been Captain of WI team, and it would not have affected the team’s success.


Which would your rather 2 world cups that will forever be etched in history or a temporary move from 9th to 3rd then back to 5th position?

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-26 22:03:03 

In reply to JoeGrine

You call what Oshame does, bowling?

 
natty_forever 2025-04-27 10:12:07 

In reply to voiceofreason

Stats?

 
JoeGrine 2025-04-27 11:10:24 

In reply to voiceofreason

I call it showing up, something your cricket god deliberately and shamefully hid from doing.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-27 15:10:40 

In reply to JoeGrine Showing up to bowl rubbish? He had 12 overs for 86 in the 1st innings of the last game vs Barbados. Then came up with an injury after bowling 2 overs in the 2nd innings. That is your definition of showing up?

Sammy showed up in the World cup final! Showed up when he took the WI first 5fer in a T20I. Showed up with bat and ball when required like vs OZ in the WC semis:

Here

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-27 15:35:20 

In reply to natty_forever

Stats you say? You have no shame???

5 matches/9 innings he took 17 wickets that means 2 wickets every innings from your so called strike bowler. 5/ 17 wickets came in one innings so that is even worse that the next 8 innings he took only 12 wickets!!! Look at Johan Layne's stats.

Oshame again

Leeward Hurricanes surely can do better grooming our own or finding another franchise pick who can bowl as Oshame has been around too long to be performing so poorly. Add to that he cannot bat and his a poor fielder. We already have Cornwall as a fielding liability( At least he is good in the slips) so we can ill afford another fielding liability.

How can anyone defend such futility is beyond comprehension but then again he is one of yours.

 
JoeGrine 2025-04-27 20:38:36 

In reply to voiceofreason

"Dibly dobly" to be exact.

 
voiceofreason 2025-04-28 00:10:04 

In reply to JoeGrine You turn to dibly dobly now? Predictable!


Sammy go mad allyuh!

Tired fi see Sammy face!

 
JoeGrine 2025-04-28 09:20:36 

In reply to voiceofreason

Mad me? A clown usually provides humor, not a maddening effect.

 
NYCGURU 2025-04-28 10:34:14 

 
Wasp 2025-04-28 12:26:57 

Whether Sammy is successful or not as COACH ....the fact is the next administrators of WI cricket will remove him as coach....

This man can not right nor will be accepted in WI...
For reasons unknown

Ppl.say he has not don't anything as a player. I think some ppl have not been watching cricket