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Passenger Sammy vs Successful WI Captain Powell

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Slipfeeler 4/20/25, 1:11:56 PM
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Sammy the Passenger who was given a free ride during his tenure as West Indies Captain has opted to replace a very successful Rovman Powell, who took WI from 9th to 3rd place in ICC Ranking. Continuing CWI recent history of uncertainty and confusion in WI cricket, demonstrated by opposition and concerns by fans around the region, especially from Dwayne Bravo, former West Indies Star Allrounder. Obviously, West Indies cricket is already in the dumps and heading nowhere with these type of nonsensical, egotistical and self aggrandizing, power hungry displays, which only seeks to distract players and will reduce our momentum in T20 cricket. Rather Shameful display by Sammy and others in CWI who supported this despicable decision.
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natty_forever 4/20/25, 1:14:29 PM
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In reply to Slipfeeler

Seems there is a Trump like executive order. No Yaadie should...
Fivestar 4/20/25, 2:43:26 PM
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Here is my two cents on the issue. Powell was a successful captain but Sammy said he was being replaced due to his batting. It seems to me Sammy should have retained Powell as captain and given him the opportunity to improve his batting.
Slipfeeler 4/20/25, 6:06:27 PM
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In reply to Fivestar

Sammy is now the Trump in West Indies cricket, both egotistical looking for respect and power, and willing to destroy success.
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anthonyp 4/20/25, 6:21:02 PM
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Lol what?

I'm not Sammy fan but yall seriously think Powell is a more successful captain than Sammy?

Last I checked Sammy captained two world cup winning sides. Yes, you could argue that he was a passenger but the same could be said of Powell... just throw the ball to a wrist spinner and Powell goes into hiding.

He was rightfully sacked as captain. Get over it. The only consistent white ball player in the region was rightfully given the captaincy! Well done CWI.
Narper 4/20/25, 6:43:03 PM
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In reply to anthonyp

just throw the ball to a wrist spinner and Powell goes into hiding.

So who doesn't go into hiding in de WI team?wink

Not much in the difference in T 20I averages between Hope, Pooran , Rutherford and Powell
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natty_forever 4/20/25, 6:47:37 PM
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In reply to anthonyp

You insular fackers.
voiceofreason 4/20/25, 6:52:40 PM
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Everybody is insular except Nutty _ forever and Slipperyfella. Did Sammy take away the captaincy and give it to a St.Lucian or a Windwards or Leewards' player? Allyuh so dotish it ent funny.
cricketmad 4/20/25, 6:55:00 PM
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Divided we fall ........
voiceofreason 4/20/25, 6:56:51 PM
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In reply to Slipfeeler

Sammy won 2 worldcups and has a highest winning percentage of any West Indian T20 Captain. I trust his judgment more than a slippery fella. Let Voopman bat for his position.
natty_forever 4/20/25, 6:59:24 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

How is it as a coach. As a Captain got help fr9m the coach. As coach...the thing is, if Sammy wasn't yours, I can imagine the nick name.
anthonyp 4/20/25, 7:21:32 PM
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In reply to Narper

Overall their numbers are similar... but if you go on current form, Hope is ahead of all of them. Plus overall, Powell played over 90+ t20i compared to Shai, who played 38 or so.

Their numbers over the past two years.

Hope

Last 2 years - avg. 36.20 with a S/R of 150.41
Last 12 months - avg. 42.25, S/R 164.07

Specialist skippa

Last 2 years - avg. 27.67, S/R 142.72
Last 12 months - avg. 24.16, S/R 128.31

Based on those numbers you could clearly understand why the dude was sacked as skipper.
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anthonyp 4/20/25, 7:21:50 PM
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In reply to natty_forever

Thank you.
Slipfeeler 4/20/25, 7:24:32 PM
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In reply to anthonyp

Marlon Samuels won those two World Cups for West Indies. Can you tell in details what Sammy did with both bat and ball, when he could not even buy a run or a wicket??
voiceofreason 4/20/25, 7:29:23 PM
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In reply to Slipfeeler

Yes Marlon was there at the end and hit the winning runs:

Slippery fella rewriting history
voiceofreason 4/20/25, 7:30:51 PM
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In reply to anthonyp

Hit them with the Stats. not only that but it helps when you have some continuity in white ball cricket captaincy. The ODI team has been moving up, while the T20I team has been moving down.
anthonyp 4/20/25, 7:30:56 PM
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In reply to Slipfeeler

Twist it and turn it all you want at the end of the day Sammy will go down a a WI captain who won two world cups.

As for his performance, it's on par with Powell. Heck, at this point I think Powell recent numbers are worse. Let Powell relax, go and somehow learn to bat spin and hopefully come back better.

Again, the right choice was made. Shai Hope deserves the captaincy!
voiceofreason 4/20/25, 7:52:03 PM
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Rovman Powell in 37 matches as captain has won 19 and lost 17 for a 53% win record.
Darren Sammy in 47 matches as Captain has won 28 and lost 17 for a 62% win record.
MS Dhoni one of the greatest captains in recent times: 72 matches, 42 wins 28 losses for 60%.
JoeGrine 4/20/25, 10:48:45 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

1. Sammy is an opportunist who cleverly took his opportunity and, after assessing the situation, realized his best bet was to hide in the background while Gayle, Samuels, etc. performed to the tune of 2 World Cup victories. I give him credit for cleverly hiding his worthlessness.

2. Rovman Powell was a decent captain, and since his captaincy was not in dispute, rather it was his batting, it will be interesting to see how many other failing batters get demoted.

3. I am not here to advocate for Powell, Hope or any other captain, I am here to point out that each of your posting is a reminder that you were improperly named.



Rovman Powell in 37 matches as captain has won 19 and lost 17 for a 53% win record.
Darren Sammy in 47 matches as Captain has won 28 and lost 17 for a 62% win record.
MS Dhoni one of the greatest captains in recent times: 72 matches, 42 wins 28 losses for 60%.


I know you majored in deception and minored in bias during your years in academia, just the same, doesn't common sense tell you that you cannot fairly compare the statistics of a man who captained 72 matches with one who captained 47?

Now to the Powell statistics that you put up, let me ask you. Does the WI Test or ODI captain have a winning record?

Secondly, don't you find it strange that a man who was an abject failure with bat and ball as captain is now sacking someone who is not doing well with the bat? I ask this question against the backdrop of your educational major and minor.
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Brerzerk 4/20/25, 11:17:33 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

You Sir has no idea of the difference between numbers on a paper and statistics. Where does Powell bat in T20I and where does Hope? Hoping against hope (pun intended) that you can understood the difference
natty_forever 4/21/25, 3:00:50 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

The one day team has what? You're getting desperate.
voiceofreason 4/21/25, 3:04:09 AM
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In reply to JoeGrine

I see your hate for Sammy has aged like sour puss but there is no need to rewrite or distort history.

In the first World cup championship Sammy's 26 off 15 and 2 overs 2/6 contributed greatly to the win but haters like you would pretend that never happened. The greatness of any leader is to know and understand his limitations and delegate where necessary.

Scorecard

In regards to Sammy vs Dhoni since you want to get technical I did some digging: At 45 T20IS Dhoni had won 26 and lost 19 so 58%. Less than Sammy!

Help yourself



Now to the Powell statistics that you put up, let me ask you. Does the WI Test or ODI captain have a winning record?

No they don't currently but West Indies has not had any reasonable success in those formats since yes Sammy went 6-0 as captain in tests and got them to top 5. The one format where we had meteoric success was T20I, so Rovman unfortunately had big shoes to fill and fell short.


Abject failure you say. Batting at 8 with a 147 s/r is an abject failure? 44 wickets with a 20.8 s/r and a 5/46 best haul abject you say. Too bad the stats do not support your assertion.

Sammy is in charge now so get over it. I am waiting for you and your classless cronies to re-start your donkey chants and attacks on his wife.
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voiceofreason 4/21/25, 3:17:47 AM
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AIn reply to natty_forever

Why don't your lazy ass go look up the stats yourself:

Shai Hope as ODI Captain won 15 and lost 14 and in his last 9 matches as Captain WI have one 6 and lost 3.

Rovman's last 10 T20IS as captain 2-8.
natty_forever 4/21/25, 3:23:42 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

And we are ranked where? Moving up would suggest a movement in the rankings. Or that don't count.
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voiceofreason 4/21/25, 3:25:09 AM
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In reply to Brerzerk Powell has batted in the top 6 for most of his T20I Career: 73 out of 79 games in the top 6.

Rovman Powell

You worse than Slipperyfella.
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